what are the suitable pheros to use for why women in the range of 18-20 years old?
Those “why women” are real puzzlers!
Some IO or cttm might get her talking to you. You still have to open the conversation and give her a chance.
how do you post those sticky messages??
I don’t. The moderator can make an ordinary message into a stickie, IF the message is worthy.
haha guys, i love it when you state the obvious: “you still have to initiate conversation” because some people think women will come humping them or something.
Anyway, the reason for my question is that i don’t want to intimidate the shy woman further with A314 or ammo… and i wonder what pheromones would bring her outside her shell and quickly build a basic friendship with me.
I just have 2 more questions
how can instantshine benefit me in that case?
will instant female magic help at all or will it be a waste of pheros?
Would it be a good idea to wear ammo instead (of anything else)? I don’t think so since it has a component of A314 and might be rather intimidating.
I don’t know what to think, i don’t have much experience with pheros and some of you might read this and go sigh another noob, and go on testing the P85 or some new mixes. But please, do help me out and drop your opinion
Instant Honesty all the way. Much better at getting a woman to open up to you than Instant Opnenness (despite the name).
Instant Openness/Spaceland are more for situations when there’s already a mild social atmosphere going. The pheros in those mixes kick it into high gear.
However, for one-on-one situations, Instant Honesty all the way. It creates feelings of closeness that will cause a shy girl to open up.
I haven’t tried cttm, so I can’t judge on that, but I hear it’s a great all-around communication pheromone, perfect for both parties AND one-on-one situations.
I remember trying instant honesty out, and trying to break away from a conversation but couldn’t… the guy kept following me haha. Anyway, yeah instant honesty is great, but what if i mix it with instant shine? or instant female magic. Will the TAA bring her closer? take away my personal space? is this a good choice to mix with instant honesty? (and what about also putting instant female magic in that mix?)
Instant Female Magic is great for relaxing women, so that can’t hurt.
Put that together with Instant Shine and Instant Honesty…and you’ve got a woman who’s relaxed, happy and talkative…a winning combo for any guy! 
CTTM2:Instant Shine:Instant Female Magic, at a ratio of 4:5:3.
And don’t forget to use body language that says “safe and relaxed”, and a tone of voice that says safe and relaxing too. Keep conversation light and don’t get into topics that she’s uncomfortable with. And read her body language like a hawk. At the first sign of discomfort, change the subject or stop what you were doing that caused it.
P85 and or TAL. These two really bring all females but especially the awkward ones out of their shell.
perfect guys and girls, each of the last 3 suggestions helped. I look forward to trying on that ratio catlord… but i don’t have cttm so i suppose i will try it out with instant honesty!
m3t, how much P85 are you using per application - still 12.5 mcg or have you tried higher dosages? Is it still adding a ‘trusting, mature, credible vibe’ to your mixes? Is it sexual at all or is it more just about enhancing communication?
Thanks
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How much TAL do you use for this?
I am still using about 12.5 mcg per application of p85. As for TAL never more than 7.5mcg . TAL works great but is very imasculating so be careful.