Howdy. I am interested in affecting the effects of A314, however I seem to have a problem. I am an alpha. Not just a normal alpha, but supra-alpha.
Since college I noticed a strange phenomena: Where ever I would sit, no men could seem to sit within 5 to 10 feet of me. It wasn’t any offensive smell others could consciously detect, when I polled others. Men I didn’t even know, or had rarely spoken to would tell others that I am a jerk or arrogant. It was a surprise how often other guys would confuse confidence with arrogance. It made me wonder if all other guys were brimming with insecurity, and not wearing it on my sleeve was being rude.
Showering 2 times per day lessened the effect, but is not practical solution. The only people that could naturally penetrate this aura were females who were 1) sexually aggressive 2) already in a relationship. The latter cause did not inhibit the former effect, humorously. It is also perhaps of note that I naturally have exceptionally large hamstring muscles, at least four standard deviations outside normal. This causes me to shred boxers in the exact opposite way The Hulk does not, when moving or shifting about.
It is my understanding that large quantities of testosterone accumulate in the male thighs, and perhaps this is where a pheromone symptom has a contributory hormonal cause. Tree trunks: I’ve got em. At the end of college, reading about testosterone-mediated effects and later pheromones did it occur to me that perhaps there was an invisible power influencing my interactions with others.
Great, so what does someone who is so alpha need pheromones for, right? It’s simple: My aura of “arrogance” or “aggression” is exceptionally large, and therefore counter-intuitive against sociability and trust. I would like a product like A314, however I do not want any androstenone effects, as mine are naturally overpowering already. I see these mixes contain blends of multiple pheromones. That’s great, as natural mixes and synergistic effects are desirable. I am aware I could use androsterone and perhaps androstenol, however a cocktail of just these two gives me pause for concern because there is no natural mix or interplay with other pheromones.
I want to greatly increase trust, and relatively increase sociability, WITHOUT any added female attraction or “alpha” influences. Suggestions?
Sure, I suggest you get IG which is like A314 in many ways without the anone aggression. Its mostly arone and a mix of a few other mones. Its trusting reliable sophisticated comfortable and attractive.
Then Get some Ishine IO and IH to buffer your already high amounts of anone production just like we would use if we were going to buffer it in a bottle.
Another good choice would be to use some P74 which is friendly and bonding. This one will increase interaction with both men and women.
Be sure to head on up to the introduction section and do a intro.
Tisha is right - try going with Instant Gentleman and back it up with the social products. IH and IShine are my favorites but I can tell you IO works as adverticsed also.
Try reading a couple of the threads in my signature block. They may help give you ideas for use plue how these products may work with you.
I know a guy who had this effect too. All the other guys were always gossiping about him that he was such a jerk and alluded he was some kind of slick, ruthless player. After I started working with him closely and got to know him, I discovered he was nothing like his reputation and actually a really friendly guy. It’s not nice when people are prejudiced about you and gossip.
You got some good recommendations from Tisha and Hank!
Are your testosterone levels also raised? I know licorice extract can lower it and as a Dutch person I can recommend the taste! If you have your hormones out of whack, there is a guy named Hazard on this forum who knows everything about Testosterone, he may be able to help you.
I think you are correct about strong natural anone production.
You possibly mischaracterise the signature as “Supra alpha.” The reactions you describe indicate avoidance and displeasure, not necessarily the leadership characterstic. Actually, in your case IG will likely increase comfort and confidence in your abilities, and probably increase the actual “alpha” status.
I’ll take a look at the Instant Gentleman, and the other recs. Thanks very much. Avoidance for sure. One thing I did notice is that other alphas don’t experience the displeasure, and the displeasure effect is very strong in gammas. One thing I am a little uncertain of here is the claims of use with oxytocin. I read through the other thread on it, without much clarity. How is it this hormone is so very popular even through it has a very low chance of working or being stable? It isn’t like you can inject oxytocin into the person you are talking to. Perhaps you can mediate a oxytocin response through pheromones, but unless you’re drenched in it and the person is within 1 foot of distance I don’t know how it can begin to work. Also, how much of the ‘hit’ effect is psychological within the person wearing the chemical? It makes me wonder about confirmation bias. Another problem is that I think if I’m wearing pheromones, I’m drinking the koolaid, and more succeptable to making choices I would not normally make, as I would be physiologically influenced. For example, if I use instant gentleman, wouldn’t i begin to see others with the instant gentleman effect? Does this instill me with an irrational sense of trust in people I wouldn’t otherwise trust?
oxytocin - I tried Liquid trust and it didn’t do anything for me.
placebo - maybe. All you’ll get here is anecdotal evidence from people who are thinking something is causing an effect for them. Take it for what it is worth.
‘Drinking the koolaid’ lol, I like that. If you don’t mind, i’m going to use that expression.
I also was concerned by subjective discernment. Turns out the answer is pretty straightforward. You still have basically the same objectivity, awareness, and discernment that you would normally have. Pheromones change the shades of color perceived, but not the perception of the form and function of events. If you can control yourself and your environment now, that will not change. If you allow your life to be blown around like a leaf on the breeze then then you will be carried along by a different breeze.
Hits? Some times it’s subtle. Sometimes it’s blatant. Jaw dropping obvious. After a few really obvious hits, you’ll be ready to accept the more subtle influences.
We are all working to improve our awareness. Nevertheless, it is still a subjective judgement as to whether an event is out of the ordinary compared to a baseline of what you would cosider normal. This is unavoidably a chain of subjective judgements. The key to our sucess is that over time, our reporting builds a body of subjective event perceptions that eventually allows us to make reliable generalizations about the effects of specific pheromones. That reporting, in turn increases our perception and awareness of that type of event. We all ultimately attempt to use the effect of the pheromone, along with our enhanced awareness, to influence the course of events around us.
Your reporting is valuable to all of us. Redundant reporting of effects already noted is valuable. Reporting of no effect is valuable. The reporting of an effect that deviates from what had previously reported is valuable. The reporting of your attempts to influence events is valuable to us.
Am i making it clear that we highly value your subjective perception and judgement?
