I’m hearing from a lot of people who say that Thompson’s recordings have done good things for them.. 
.. more than any other similar binaural or brain-beat product… he must be on to something… some are def. better than others, each one seems to have captured a specific meditative experience… even though they’re best through headphones (good headphones make a big difference!), I’ve gotten surprisingly powerful results through speakers placed near to the zone of action… just found myself dropping into deep theta states.. 
.. almost like ultra clean tripping. .. although the pheros obviously were contributing their bit.
So you only wear pheros when having sex to intensify the experence?
What about your old mix p79 50 mcg and p83 50 mcg - have you reconsidered the 50 mcg dose of p83?
Thanks!
Yes… def. see the other thread on post pheromone let down… after trying many strategies for getting the maximal output for my pheromone inputs, two
ways of going about it have worked for me.
- In the case of knowing beforehand when and where sex will occur, the best by far is to carry a small amount of an A rated sexmix and let it rip immediately before hopping into bed… the natural sex warm up seems to synchronize perfectly with the pheromone impact… “normal” unenhanced sex now feels like it is lacking a multitude of experiential dimensions…
However, by concentrating the full force of the -mones at the critical moment, there is no habituation for either party, quite the opposite, it anchors or marks out extremely clear distinctions between the sex zone and everything else… many authors on sexology have discussed the importance of having super clear distinctions between the sex space and the daily life space, some going so far as to advocate having a “sex bedroom” and a regular sleeping bedroom…
NLP often discusses the problems of keeping your anchors sorted out so different high performance states remain clean and uncontaminated, similar to ritual practices in other cultures where anything that intrudes on the sacred space is taboo…
So I want to maintain very sharp psychological clarity which involves lighting, music, scent, pheromones that ONLY come into play in that specific moment… which then forms a powerful stimulus-response imprint in all concerned… the pheromones will also be tightly associated with a certain color and brightness of light, a certain choice of sounds… this acts as a whopping all together now trigger for getting into the moment…
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The only other time is a different combination of ingredients that I might use in critical meetings or getting together with people where certain outcomes are aimed for. I don’t spash on pheros and walk around hoping for something to happen…
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The newer generation Sexmix(s) take advantage of exotic P series the we didn’t have back in the day, combined with much better direct knowledge as well as collective feedback that clicks or doesn’t click with my own results. More information, more input choices have resulted in significantly complex symphonic blends that bring out nuances I wouldn’t have know how to identify at an earlier point.
Man, you really always give such elaborate responses - I can’t thank you enough.
Now, it’s not like I don’t know what the different pheromones does or their charactheristics in a normal context, but can I get you to comment on your personal experiences with some of the specific pheromones in a sex-related context, during the… ahem… act?
Perhaps like…
P83 = disinhibitor etc.
P79 = something… etc.
TAH = etc.
etc.
I don’t mean to take too much of your time, I just want to pick your brain now that I have you here 
Thanks again!
tacitus - question for you: what if I have the girl in my apartment and I know we are going to get it on…let’s say a minute before we go at it, I run to the bathroom, and spray on 5 sprays of the edge (note I usually can’t do more than 2 without ODing in a social/pickup context). Do you think the OD effect would still happen if the context was imminent sex?
I had sex last week with TUTH and a314 and I felt i could control ejaculation much better than normal - maybe just a coincidence - but tacitus - have you had similar experience - where you feel ‘above’ it all?
It felt like I had 100% control over the situation, a little out of body sensation, a little arrogant sex, (and normally Im very sweet :o).
Btw, wifey had a more intense and loud orgasm as normal. Can’t wait to experiment more.
I think people often do overdose on the masculine andro pheromone side… you don’t need all that much andro family… use a ton of P74… 300mu is fine…
My point is that maybe it’s OK to OD on NONE during the ACT of sex?
God bless this thread and everyone who participates in it.
I’ve noticed that one doesn’t need all that much -NONE,(although, yes, I’ve gone overboard with gobs of it)… and you really CAN’T overdose on P74…
We need to make a clear distinction… during “the chase” a tilt toward the andro family, esp. androstenone as you find in most men’s products makes a degree of sense… you need to break through the competing signals, establish a presence, flip the switch, work with group dynamics, all of that…
OTOH… (this for some reason is not well understood and never discussed… even by the PUA pros… so here is a secret that is based on hundreds of hours of careful research)…
The dynamic changes markedly once you go from “are we going to do this?” to “we are going to do this!”…
Women love sex and they love all the connection, empathic communication, mutual awareness, full body awareness, emotional presence, focused attention that sex releases… that’s why most porn is so gawdawful… its’ generally plastic spastic pervy unreal emotional disconnection set to wretched “passionate” soundtracks… as if, dude…
If you’re taking your cues from porn, chances are very good the sex will be creepy and alienated… nothing anyone with a healthy emotional brain would care to repeat…
Sexmix to the rescue… this is my lifetime worth of learning FWIW… but I think the results speak for themselves, res ipsa loquitur, you want a phero mix that will open you up in seven degrees of emotional-bodily connection and empathic tuning… with just enough androgenic element to add the needed oomph… go big time with the P74, alpha-nol, estratatreanol (btw, I actually prefer P74 to e-nol… it seems a little more glowy and soft) and any others in that category, maybe a little dab of P86, meo-est, TAF, before you plunk in the man mones…
Or if you’re using a strong male product, the most economical and efficient thing is to buy your man products as sold and get a 30 ml. bottle of 100 mu concentration P74… right before the drumroll… blast yourself with 200-400 mu of p74… the rest, as they say, will be history…
Fantastic, now just one last request :o if I may:
Could you touch just slightly upon what made you leave out p79 and p83? The reason I ask, is that earlier you were a very strong supporter of these two pheromones –
Allow me to refresh your memory:
(credit visionary7903)
P83... a nice little empathogen - #3 by tacitus (P83... a nice little empathogen - #3 by tacitus)
tacitus (September 3, 2006):
“ P83 has some wicked sexual aspects, in me at least
caught me off guard… I was basically feeling good… uply (is that a word ?) social… decent humorous get along doggies mentality… thennnn… I began to notice a buzz in my primordial chakra… unusual , I was becoming hornified and pheromones don’t typically do that to me… those whom I encounter, yes, me, I mean, not romanticized nor revved nor whatever it is… just plain thinking and feeling a whole lotta sex mojo… outa the blu … so that evening I have a double strenght orgasm… one of those knock the wind right out of ya 220v throw away your crutches and holler Praise Jesus! orgasms… yezoiks! Was that the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) tawkin ? Where did that come from ? Could it have been some other factor ? The pomegranate juice ? Naaahh… That was goooood, boy… now I don’t know if that was a one offer, or if it is a scientifically reproducible event… sure got my attention tho… ”
High TAF + -none (High TAF + -none)
tacitus (September 6, 2006):
“…-none in general isn’t my favorite thing to use in a general setting … P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) plus P83 carefully applied might get you more of what you want and less of what you don’t want.. which is the “out of the blue” androstenone jackass syndrome… or the “let’s get it on baby no I changed my mind you have to leave now” schizo move…”
P83... a nice little empathogen - #10 by tacitus (P83... a nice little empathogen - #10 by tacitus)
tacitus (October 1, 2006):
“ Should be an interesting combination
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) is sexy by itself… I found it was a good orgasm enhancer… sorta took it to another level. and P88 is an “awareness enhancer” … you will be unusually aware of facial nuances… put them together and you should be waaay focused… ”
The good Putatives so far - #3 by tacitus (The good Putatives so far - #3 by tacitus)
tacitus (October 9, 2006):
“Dunno exactly… played around with P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)/ P83 in a base of a- Androstenol , a-Androsterone, and TAA … the 79/83 combo has repeatedly led to passionate, greasy pig sex… women seem to lose all their ASD barriers with 79/83 … they just… get… into… it… ”
P83... a nice little empathogen - #28 by tacitus (P83... a nice little empathogen - #28 by tacitus)
tacitus (November 18, 2006):
“P.S. there is a strong probability that your dear husband was also “activated” by the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314)… if he has a naturally aggressive personality this may have been enhanced… I have a naturally sexual personality (bonobo versus chimpanzee heritage ?) so possible this came out differently in me… then there is the relationship dynamic, and how that is influenced by P83 as well… and how your perceptions are shaped by all of the above…”
P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background (P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background)
tacitus (December 16, 2006):
“ P79 + P83 with bright shiny pheromones in the background
Woooooo… that was… XXX rated… I had two mixes, one was 50 mu P79 + 50 mu P83… the other was an A314, Alpha Androstenol , TAAlove’n’happiness blend… so I’m with this awesome somewhat older, intensely hot creature, and I give her a biggg whiff of the P79+P83 and she looks like she’s about to spontaneously combust… then on went the love’n’happiness mixture… alright… if you have tender sensibilities, stop reading NOW… cover your eyes… this is the third time in rapid sucession that (three different, all unalike) have women have wanted, and passionately enjoyed… ahem… anal sex… OK… there… I said it… now, as… cough… adults… we all know that porno-grade sex potions are the fodder of the dumbest adolescent fantasies… a more nuanced interpretation is that women (more that would freely admit it) do, in fact, have libidos that are as strong and (potentially) uninhibitedly raunchy as the typical horny, raunchy male… however… women are also subject to much heavier socialization about “good girl” versus “she devil” erotocism… wherein she devil levels of desire may be perceived as socially destabilizing… like, when a known she devil shows up on the scene, you notice how the Precious Pure Angels circle their wagons and freak out… yeah… I thought so… you know exactly what I’m talking about… because the Precious Pure Angels know all too well what the menfolk are fantasizing when the She Devil is present… soooooo… the girly girls learns the wisdom of shutting it down and covering it up… oooooh yes, my husband and I… on Sundays, after church… after consulting our higher powers, lay down on white linens and whisper naughty things to each other… so… your humble Tacitus has concluded that, under the right circumstances, these troubling ASDs can be overridden and the She Devilcomes out to play… unlike her Precious Pure Angel identity… she is given to saying things like… Dude, grease me up and fuck me hard in the… so wrong, so filthy, so real…”
My new supermix... the best balanced, most effective yet (My new supermix... the best balanced, most effective yet)
tacitus (December 24, 2006):
“…On the masculaine/solar/trog side we combine:
P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314)
P91”
Which scent package is best for TAF, P79 and P83? (Which scent package is best for TAF, P79 and P83?)
tacitus (December 29, 2006):
“…there IS somthing about the ambergris type molecule that works magic with the masculine toned pheromones, such as P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) and P83…”
Let's visit the Orgasmotron ! - #6 by tacitus (Let's visit the Orgasmotron ! - #6 by tacitus)
tacitus (January 14, 2007):
“…On the male sexuous side of the equation, I think this round was the justly praised P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314), P91, P93 ramped up with TAF…”
High performance communication: a 650 mu megadose of MEO-EST and putatives - #14 by tacitus (High performance communication: a 650 mu megadose of MEO-EST and putatives - #14 by tacitus)
tacitus (February 1, 2007):
“…P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) has this interesting property of letting people “hear” (in the broader sense of open communication) each other…”
1 week of p83 - #10 by tacitus (1 week of p83 - #10 by tacitus)
tacitus (February 12, 2007):
“ Pure pheromeoes and balanced mixes can be drastically different
I think this is because pheromones and para-pheromones must appear in nature in complex bundles, like green tea has caffeine AND theanine which synergize to form a third effect… I’m constantly studying how “softeners” like P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314), Estratatraenol, Alpha Androstenol and Alpha-Androsterone, (and to my mind P86, others may prefer TAK) and my old fave response modifier, IsoE-Super, will allow something like P83 to emerge as a “note” instead of an overload… many pure putatives have been to much of unbalanced intensity, like the straaaange but captivating P87, or "talk show"P84… man, P84 can do the most outlandish things, you really do feel like you’re, live, on the air… Oprah Spray I tells ya… so I’ve “noted” a sexmix with P84 and had… errrrr… very very talky sex… like fuckafuckafuckafuck… then sit upright in a couple of chairs an talkatalkatalkatalk… then back to… P83, IN moderation, “buried deep in the mix”… can put a focused, attentive, totally in the moment quality… so it might be great for performers too, say if you wanted a band to practice hard and get their gig super tight you might balance P83 for precision and Estratetraenol for groove…”
Pheromone Mix Recipes - #24 by tacitus (Pheromone Mix Recipes - #24 by tacitus)
tacitus (March 10, 2007):
“the best thing I’ve learned is to make symphonic mixes with high levels of basics and low levels of accessory pheromones… instead of piling them in at the same concentrations… tiny bits of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314), P86 , P87 , P88 together give a special twist that is fascinating… some of those small additions add a surprising degree of complexity and richness to the entire experience, where high levels of many of the putatives alone are too exotic for common social use.”
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/pheros-ever-got-you-laid-3792-2.html#post43561
tacitus (May 6, 2007):
“…while P79 (https://pheromonelabs.com/),P83,P90,P93 all add some deep bodymind animal notes [during sex]…”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #21 by tacitus (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #21 by tacitus)
tacitus (May 16, 2007 - probably in response to steveo’s comment from the previous day of “I’ve read some older posts that [P83] enables some type of auditory exceptions, but I’m telling you I could hear her moans [during sex] before they even started.”):
“BTW… almost but not totally off topic… great stereo systems, great music sounds that capture all the fine nuances, I don’t mean run of the mill crappy products… have a powerful effect when combined with pheromones, 'cause many pheromones do open up the auditory channels, “pulls the cotton out of your ears”… sometimes great sound and the right pheromones (P83 - Mind Bending Sex) come together in magical ways… add the right girl and it can be even more magical…”
Essence of Man Pig ! (Essence of Man Pig !)
tacitus (September 2007):
“…and a pinch of P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) to keep the party moving…”
Essence of Man Pig ! - #3 by tacitus (Essence of Man Pig ! - #3 by tacitus)
tacitus (September 2007):
“…P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) (just a bit for focus)…”
Why such a sudden depart from p83 and p79?
Sorry for putting you on the spot with what you have written in the past, you’re just such a force that I read everything you write
Jonas
understood… let this thread evolve a while and we will touch on all points… I’m hoping at this level to maintain the basic theory of why we will benefit from a general orientation (to wo-mones versus man-mones)… once there is a good sense of clarity as to why one approach will give us one outcome, as well as the supporting or competing factors (I really HATE competing with an i-phone for example) we will be able to make sense of the later generation inputs, like A-1, P75,P79,P80,P83,P90,P93,P123,P125,P126… and so on…
Subbing fer zee EDUCATION part of all this!
T, I’m loving being able to UNDERSTAND what you’re saying, and how you are NOW breaking it down … as a preacher should do his sermon … so even kids can understand. Kid, I! 
Still waiting for your book on MONES! 
Instead of THANKING YOU on each and every one of your posts … I’ll just thank you here. THANKS!
Cool! That makes a lot of sense thinking about it…
The P74 for the sweet warm connection should be the base. The rone adds a slight but not intimidating respect of “i’m not just fucking any joe shmoe here…”. The undertone of none portrays the dirty animalistic side of sex - the NONE should and must be there but it’s not going to meet most of the “seven degrees of emotional-bodily connection and empathic tuning” as you all it. In fact, I suspect the P74 does a better job of meeting those “7 degrees”…The TAF makes this whole experience REAL - that ones full conscious is in the now..in the present moment to fully experience and feel those “7 degrees”…
The mix could be called the “What Women Want (to fuck) mix”
Good to add an auditory metaphor here… P74 is like Grant Green’s sound playing Idle Moments…very sweet and liquid… rone is like Larry Coryell take of Wes Montgomery’s Bumpin’ On Sunset… some of the more advanced tones and mixes are like adding unique fuzz pedals, phasers, ring mods,harmonizers to the mix…
Androstenone has power metal energy… no subtlety, furious plowing through the mix…
The rig you need to cut through the crowd noise and make your point isn’t necessarily the same one you’re going to kick back with in your private space…
P86 is like a shimmery chorus pedal, P96 is like a thicker phaser tone…
P79 is like a classic germanium fuzz, add bite, while P80 is like a modern silicon fuzz, punchier, bossier,more tooth.. I’m not sure exactly what a Roger Mayer Stone Fuzz would be, P79+P80+P114 maybe…psychedelic blues…
What about p83?
Interesting to compare the more refined Androstadienone (A-1)… I always add a little of that, not as rude and blunt as Androstenone… A-1 is like the tube version, funky classic KT-66 Marshall sound, Jimi at Monterry playing Killing Floor, Androstenone is the transistor head, louder, slammier, not as fluid…
Androstadienone incarnated as Jimi Hendrix:
P93 incarnated as Muddy Waters:
Androstenone as Zac Wilde:
LOL… Next time I fuck my wife I’ll have a love-tape with the aforementioned songs on… see what happens…