The Bad Girl the Good Boys Want

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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Hi guys, I’ve met this girl, she’s one of the wild/bad girl types. She started out intrigued by me as I seemed not to respond to her and treated her differently from how other guys treated her, how other guys usually wanted to jump her immediately. She told me something along the lines of how she wanted to make me bad. We had alot of physical touch but didn’t go beyond a kiss (leaning, hugging, hand/waist holding, sitting on me), she knows I’m more on the conservative side.

Then she told me I was getting a little serious, and told a friend that I was getting a little stifling. She told me that she doesn’t do committed relationships but still wants to hang out, we do now but not as much.

I want to close the gap now and seal the deal. Committment is a bonus. The fallout is that we seem very much more platonic now although there are still the occasional signs of affection from her.

I’m a complete noob and am asking, what’d be a good mix on my next night out with her.

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Her age, and ethnicity as well as yours please.

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Also, most likely Ammo + IS will hit it off pretty well in this situation.

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Hi Rad, thanks for the reply, it gets a little bit sensitive here on out so I’ll give you the details here. The post was more to sound out those I could seriously ask for advice.

I’m male asian 27 (full chinese I think, had some french along the bloodline but I’m not too sure), she’s caucasian 24 (half australian half brit)

When she first met me, she thought it was sweet and interesting that I hadn’t had much experience with women in the sex department. She said stuff like how she’d teach me to be a man and all. Things got kind of intense quite fast, like hugging, leaning, sitting on me when we’re out with friends, letting me hold her hand or wrap my arm around her waist but we’ve not had sex. I guess we nearly did but I didn’t realise she was hinting to me twice to go up to her place, the second time she hinted to me I actually asked her about “dating officially” that night. I’m asian and we’re kind of conservative. Then she told me that she wasn’t looking for serious, and that she was into stuff like sado-masochism and stuff and I’d be broken by her. I’m fun and interesting to be with but she’s not sure if she can be in a relationship with me. And she told me that I’m so sweet and nice, that other guys see her only as a piece of meat but I don’t.

I think I screwed up somewhere somehow and I really don’t mind casual, to be honest I’ve convinced myself that I want to nail her (screw the conservative nature) and I’ve been reading up on how to be as un-vanilla as I can be. If a relationship comes along with it, that’s a bonus. We still hang out now, 1 to 1 but not as much, but I"m looking to close the distance.

She’s the dirty minded wild, kind of bad, little girl (she likes pretending to be a little girl, or a kitty cat)

I’m thinking of getting A314, Instant Shine, Ammunition, TUTH and P83

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Mones will not change her attitude towards commitment or relationships in general. It can mildly enhance your image and horn up the moment, increasing your chances of getting laid, but only if she was already so inclined. Mones do not revoke freewill.

I’m often perceived as a “good boy” type by bad girls (although surface appearances don’t mean jack). At least in part, it is good boy image that attracts and intrigues them. They’re used to dawg types and you’re a bit of a mystery. Of course once she cracks that nut, you’re just another man so you need the normal lifestyle and emotional connections to keep her in your life.

I’m guessing, if she’s used to bad boys, she probably associates a moderately high anone signature with bumpin’ uglies. So you might dab on a wee bit 'o NPA, TE, A7 or TUTH. On the other hand, if your low anone goodie two shoes signature was part of the initial attraction, you might blow it all out of the water…

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in situations like these i usually FALL THE F*CK BACK!

she is tellin u in OHHHH so many words, to giv her space.

she clearly likes u and it seems that she may be ready for a relationship.

she obviously sees u as boyfriend material.

but somethin u did conveyed a “neediness”.

she is used to bad dudes who go straight in for the kill. but thats the thing with bad boys…they press for the pssy w/o seeming needy. they are the sht.

they convey a sense of…“hey if u wanna f*ck and be on my team then thats whatsup. if not…ON TO THE NEXT ONE!”

if u guys already set up a date, go. wear the mones, but be the most nonchalant mofo on the face of the planet.

smile, make eye contact the whole time, be cool n confident.

and more importantly, be urself.

other than that, leave it alone. make no physical contact unless she tries too.

i saw a post radman posted about just being nonchalant will strike up something within the female…“omg, he used to touch me all the time. why not this time? is my breathe bad? am i not hot anymore??? am i losing him!!! ohhhh noooooo???”

so yea. i say fall back.

No Initiated Contact (NIC) always does wonders for me. meaning dont text or call her unless she makes the first step. and if she does, ignore it sometimes.

this drives women crazy. and if it doesnt drive her crazy…she wasnt that into u.

this will do wonders for u also. it lessens whatever emotional attachment that u may have formed towards her…and u can NEXT her if need be

i also recommend looking up carlos xuma…in ur post u sound like a strong person with a good grip on wat u want.

xuma is not a pick up artist but a person that helps u IMPROVE on whatever skill sets that you have.

good luck bro n seriously fall back…

there are billions of women on this planet. billions of billions of billions.

i cant stress this enough: never, ever ever be afraid to NEXT a girl.

get on the team chick, or go home :slight_smile:

what woul be a good mix?

IJ+IG+IS=

im a bad mothf*cka but ill be the best dam boyfriend in the world…if i choose to allow u to enter into my bad ass world of greatness :slight_smile:

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RADMAN: I can’t thank you enough for the PMs. Thanks for all the info and advice

Joseph : I realised the thing about the touch too. When I don’t touch her at all she then becomes the one to give me contact

Problem is I give in too easy. I ignored a couple of her texts, then she called me and I answered. When it was my turn to text her, she ignored me. She’s a little inconsistent as one day she seems really excited and into me and she can just stand me up on another.

Some of my friends think I might be falling into the friends zone and or she might just be overly friendly. Mutual friends think she’s a little of a basket case.

I’m supposed to go out with her this week, but I’m still waiting for my voucher to arrive so I can place my order on the mones and wait for the shipment (they’ll take around 4-6 days to arrive), so I’m wondering if I should just tell her I can’t meet this week and postpone to next

The initial wanting to be just beside her/near her was killing me, made me really needy and beta but that feeling’s kind of starting to wear off too. Less love more lust now.

ps. What’s to “next” a girl?

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Next | PUA Lingo

always always always have a rotation of like four girls. u dont have to be banging them. they’re just there to text or call or hang out.

if one girl flakes, guess what? u have three other girls to mess with.

and for some strange reason, women ALWAYS know when ur messing with other girls and it makes them reach for ur attention.

this took me a while to master. once again, these chicks can seriously just be friends, f buddies, possible LTR, or even a random girl that u have good text convos with

the point is not to get caught up with one prospect.

u r a MAN. a man with a million options.

u decide who gets ur glorious semen lol

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if u stress out about her, take ten deep breathes. really deep breathes…

this will do wonders with ur emotional stability.

n once again, get a rotation!

u notice how in the show NEXT had a bus.

the dude has a bus of women to choose from. if she aint doin it, NEXT!!!

n the best thing about women is this:

women are like buses. if u miss one, another one shows up ten minutes later.

i cant even begin to tell u how true this is.

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I’m not sure if you call it a Next but I always have both male and female friends around me.

When it comes to this girl I realised that I need to have a plan b or back up plans as she runs risks of no shows or unpredictability

I think the issue with letting them know about other Nexts is that it might make some of the girls insecure and or make them back off or see you as a player and consider you less of as a lover

Does it depend on our read of the personality of the girl. ie. we know she plays and she’s into me and therefore I let on that I have a next.

if she’s the ltr type I refrain from telling her about the other girls unless I have a specific reason like let her know that she’s not the only fish in the sea and I’m also in demand on the market

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lol u dont tell them.

its conveyed in ur behavior.

that u dont care. u have a bus full of women. did u click on the link that i provided above?

check out the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene. That gives you a read out of all women.

read this and figure out what type she is. act accordingly.

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Guys, as a newbie should I still get TUTH 2x and Ammo 2x?

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I think you have better control if you get the regular strength versions. Start with sweet spot testing, if it turns out that your ideal dose is like 4 sprays then yeah next buy should be double strength so you can cut down to 2 sprays. First purchase should almost always be regular strength imo. You can always get higher concentrations of product later if it turns out your sweet spot is a high dose.