The chase for Asian love Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Background of me

  • Born in Singapore
  • Chinese
  • Age : 26
  • Have been Single since birth
  • Currently reside in Australia for studies

Pheros Arsenal

  • 1 x A314b
  • 1 x IS
  • 1 x IG
  • 1 x IH
  • 1 X Ammo SE
  • 1 x TUTH
  • 1 x IO (Double Str)

Putative Arsenal
p74(10mcg)
p75(10mcg)
p79(10mcg)
p83(10mcg)
p86(10mcg)
p93(10mcg)

The Chase ( before pheros )
Recently, I have develop a romantic feeling for a friend of mine who is also a Singaporean Chinese studying in Australia. She’s 25 and we have been friends for almost a year now. In term of relationship, I considered myself as been friend zone by her because she mentioned to me that she doesn’t have enough energy for relationship due to her heavy school work. On the record, I have never confessed to her.

Some of my background research on her shows that there’s plenty of guys that used to chase her. However all got rejected and no longer contacting each other after the rejection. Maybe that the reason why she doesn’t have much friends, she used to told me that she lost a lot of friends because of communication problems but never mentions what are the communication problems are :roll_eyes:.

Over the past 6 months, we have been going shopping and exercise (she complaint that she’s getting fat) together. I get to see her almost 4 times a week. I will say we are quite close to each other, it’s to the extent that she have been reminding me that she’s not leading me on and is not using me (if i recall correctly, up to date, she have told me 5 times on that).

There’s once when I walked her back to her house( about 15min walk), she said that I shouldn’t be walking her home and giving her attention because she’s not my girlfriend. And over the past 3 weeks after this incident:

  • She asked me to smell her hair because it smells good.
  • She gotten a job, i’m the first person that she called.
  • She gotten a new handphone, i’m the first person that she called.
  • Few days ago, she gotten a new hair cut and again, I’m the first person that she called.

I have received far too much mixed signal that is making me confuse.

It could be I’m not sexual attractive enough or she just treat me like a brother, I’m not too sure too. But I decided to give it a try pheromones a try.

I did some search in the forum on what mone that attract Asian women. On 25th Aug 2014, I received my current Pheros Arsenal.

I will record my chase in this journal and also the hits that I got when I’m in Uni.

Hi! Pheromones for Attracting Asian Girls. 36/M/Australia
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Date
Tuesday, 26th Aug 2014

Product name,scent and strength:

  • 1 x IS (default strength)
  • 1 x IG (default strength)
  • 1 x IH (default strength)
  • 1 X Ammo SE (default strength)

Application dosage and locations:
2 x Spray of IS, 1 spray on hair and 1 spray on Adam apple
2 x Spray of IG, 1 spray on each side of the neck
2 x Spray of IH, 1 spray on each forearm
1 x Spray of Ammo SE, 1 Spray on chest area

Environment tested in:
Open area as I’m going jogging with her

Self effects:
I smell good therefore I feel good.

Effects to others:
She invited me to go jogging around her area therefore she took the lead of where to jog. She accidentally brought me to a very dark park surrounded with trees, she didn’t know it’s going be so dark in the night. I guess out of fear, she grab my arm and hold on to it tightly close to her chest area for about few minutes. I’m not sure if it’s the effect of mones or she’s just her girl instinct. To be honest, I kinda like that feeling of her holding to my arms as i get to show my masculine side while she display a lot of her feminine side.

In the end she suggested we should turn back and jog on places that has light. As usual, after every exercise we will chat for quite a while. Not too sure if IH is working because we usually will talk about almost anything.

Duration of effects.
2 hours because that the duration of my whole session with her.

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Date
Tuesday, 31 Aug 2014

Product name,scent and strength:

  • 1 x IG (default strength)
  • 1 x IH (default strength)

Application dosage and locations:

2 x Spray of IG , 1 spray Adam apple, half spray on each forearm
2 x Spray of IH , 1 spray on each forearm

Environment tested in:
Open area and her house

Self effects:
Feel refreshing

Effects to others:

Took a stroll with her around her area for about 1 and a half hour. During the strolling, 90% of the time she is the one talking. She seem to have a lot things to say today, the topics are mainly how she view her life and about things that is going around her for the past few days.

At the end of strolling session, when I was about to go home, she asked me to stay around and continue to talk if I’m not busy (actually is more like listening to her problems), so i stayed. The topics was pretty sensitive(non-sexual) and all the while i was listening to her problems. There was a moment when she said : “I don’t know why i’m telling you all this”:open_mouth:, this is the cue to me that IH is working fine :smiley:. the chitchat session lasted for about 1 and half hour.

I felt even closer to her. But I guess she just treat me as a close confidant friend.

I wonder if I should add P83 during the next session with her?

Duration of effects.
3 hours because that the duration of my whole session with her.

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This opening up to you is where the two of you are getting “on the same wavelength”, it is an important step in the process. Emotional intimacy is a prerequisite to an intimate relationship. Sounds like she is developing intimate feelings for you. Allow that to continue to blossom. Listen to her, but do NOT try to be “mr fix it”. She does not want you to offer solutions, she just wants to be heard and understood intimately. Tell her times you have been embarrassed or scared - this shows emotional vulnerability as well. However she must see that you still lead forward, even when you feel this way. This allows her do the same, mirroring you. It is important to mirror her body language and also her emotional wavelength. As you continue to mirror physically and emotionally you keep moving closer to each other. She will begin to follow your lead.

In your earlier post, she held your arm close. This was not a mixed message! Women are very aware of what part of their body is being touched and when. In that moment in the dark with you, she enacts your body close to her chest. She has already imagined it before, and so to enact it comes instinctively.

"I wonder if I should add P83 during the next session with her? "
A very low amount… 5 mcg?
also try P79 to add a bit of emotional trigger, and TAA to keep it positive, also at 5 mcg.
Maybe add 2.5 of TAL to bring her out of her shell a bit.
A tiny dose of TAF will do something that I think helps lock it in.

2x of IG by itself is very good. Add shine. I suggest you use the IG and shine around her regularly.
IH is kinda expensive, I’d save that for special occasions, though it works great - depends on your budget,
gets that deep bonding.

The Ammo and HEAT are a bit more iffy especially around Asians - 2.5 mcg?? too much eNone for asians!, probably could be counter-productive unless you already have her on the couch and are making out, want to get her to the bedroom, then it could be quite promising. I think you’re running a real risk of scaring her off with this heavy eNone… are these 30 ml bottles - if so you can do decent 1/2 sprays… even a 1/2 spray of these might be way too much for her. Watch VERY carefully for any unpleasant faces or reactions.

Here is what I’d do - go get some eNone at 625 ng. That is more likely a good range to give her a pleasant tingle and not scare her off. You want to add eNone VERY carefully in her case.
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The Ammo and Heat, you might want to dillue them with another cologne in a bottle, say 1 part pheros to 3 parts cologne.

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Thanks for the advice bro!

Is there other alternative that I can use beside TAA,TAL.and TAF?

Currently I have :
A314B, IS, IG, IH, IO,Ammo SE, TUTH
And
p74, p75, p79, p83, p86, p93

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Yup all 30ml except for IO x2 strength and A314b are Togo.

And all my putative are dosage of 10mcg.

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Date
Tuesday, 5 Sept 2014

Product name,scent and strength:

  • IG (default strength)
  • IS (default strength)
  • AMMO SE (default strength)

Application dosage and locations:

2 x Spray of IG , 1 spray Adam apple, half spray on each forearm
2 x Spray of IS , 1 spray on hair, half spray at each side of the neck.
1 x Spray of AMMO SE, chest area

Environment tested in:
University

Self effects:
Feel refreshing and confident

Effects to others:
went to school and noticed both males and females make eye contact with me. I have a female project mate from china, she’s grab my hand for a few second to let me feel that it’s cold when i didn’t even ask her. she was constantly playing with her hair for a long time and her body was facing me. I guess that the sigh of IOI

The girl that i’m chasing is currently sick. I heard mones dones’t work on girls that are flu as they can’t smell it.

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Recently in chat she has been calling me “Papa”(aka “Daddy, Father”)
I wonder if this is good or bad sign?
Does IG , IS, IH combo turn me into a “Daddy”.

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I can see how that combo could be a ‘Daddy’ yes. AndrosteRone (IG’s main component) gives off a masculine, reliable, status vibe, and can make young guys look older and wiser than they actually are. The IH+IS adds a lot of trustworthiness, which makes her willing to share a lot of stuff with you. This could also explain why she was so talkative the other night.

If it’s a good or a bad sign I don’t know. Some girls like the reliable IG type, other girls are more into the bad boys. Your job to find out what she likes, and act accordingly. One thing I can say… Usually Asian girls like the IG type :wink:

She really seems to trusts you, which is a good thing. But be careful not to end up in the friend zone. Seduction wise it’s not always the best if a girl is willing to share everything with you… especially not if she’s using you as her shoulder to cry on, telling you stuff about her boy troubles etc. But looks like she’s not doing that with you right now. If she’s telling you how she views her life and what het life goals/ambitions are, I think she wants to make a connection. It’s a good sign. Your job now to get her alone and steer the conversation in positive and possibly a sexual direction.

If the Daddy vibe is getting in your way, get some eNone in that mix and dose down on the IG. Should help you stay out of the friend zone.

An IG + Summer Ammo combo looks promising. The eNone is very well buffered in Summo, so very safe to wear around Asians.

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Date
Friday, 12 Sept 2014

Product name,scent and strength:

  • A314b(default strength)
  • IH (default strength)
  • P74 (10mcg)
  • P83 (10mcg)

Application dosage and locations:

1 x Spray of A314b on neck
2 x Spray of IH, 1 spray on each forearm
2 x Spray of P74, 1 spray on each forearm
2 x Spray of P83, 1 spray on each forearm

Reapply same mix after 5 hours.

Environment tested in:
University

Self effects:
Felt very alive for the first 5 hours.
Felt very tired after reapply the same mix .

Question: Is this the crush feeling?

Effects to others:

1st time testing this fallout mix on my target( I will name her as “D”). She was expose to my mix for about 6 hours. Can’t really tell if there’s effect on her as she’s very tired due to lack of sleep. After class , we went to grocery shopping together. Went to her house after that and she ask me if I want to hang around for a bit longer. While I was in her house, all I was doing is watch her chopping her salad stuffs. So i have no idea why she want me to stay there :confused:

Will be meeting up with her over the weekend and will be continue to use this mix, maybe less P83 and add in some P75

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Date
Monday, 15 Sept 2014

Product name,scent and strength:

  • A314b(default strength)
  • IH (default strength)
  • P74 (10mcg)

Application dosage and locations:

1 x Spray of A314b on adam apple
2 x Spray of IH, 1 spray on each forearm
2 x Spray of P74, 1 spray on each forearm

Environment tested in:
open area

Self effects:
Feel good and confident

Effects to others:

Something happened to “D” during the weekend and cause her to be emo. She was not willing to share the problem, so I did not ask her much about it.In the end we did not meet up during weekend. On the following Monday, I met up with her to discuss about assignment and this is the 2nd time i’m exposing her to this fallout mix (thanks! Himeros). Initially, she looks very down but as time goes by about 30min later, her mood started to became positive and cheerful (not sure if it’s the cause of the mone or is it because of me interacting with her). We spend about 1h 30min together and over the time i did some slight kino to her such as touching her finger and patting her head.

Question 1 : I always pat her head during our all our meetup and she did not show any resistance at all. Should I ask her if she’s ok me patting her head? so that I can do it more “official”

Question 2 : How do I know if the fallout effect had set in ? And usually what is the typical number of repeated exposure in order to let the fallout set in?

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  1. Do NOT ask permission… Just lead confidently, but be unpredictable. There is a certain balance of hope and uncertainty that should be maintained. You want some degree of uncertainty in her mind about how interested you are, but keep her hopeful. If she is not complaining then you should go back and do it again, and keep re-attempting progression up the chain. Play that you are loosing interest from time to time, then make an unexpected advances. If she does complain about an advance you make, just listen and hear her, but do not defend your actions. Do not be a “mr fix-it” for her problems - when she speaks, she just wants to be heard. If she thinks something is wrong just agree, but say it “just happened”. I recommend you do things in the right order. Touch order: upper arm > shoulder > upper back > lower back (lead by) > hand-holding (steer w/ hand and back, as in dancing/walking/leading… move her from place to place, get mirroring) > lips (kissing - get mirroring first, she should meet you halfway) > face / hair (after lips) > then on to neck & abdomen, then breasts, underwear, etc. If you go all the way make sure she gets off (if special techniques are needed, make sure you do that), just makes things so much easier from that point forward.

Women are usually very protective of face & hair, and very conscious of touching in general. If she lets you keep touching face and hair, then do more of that while sitting together, then touch her lips… it seems like escalation, but actually she’s less protective of lips. go further down chain to holding her hand and/or lower back, lead her get a mirror image going, then back to lips, she should be mirroring as you get closer she does. Make sure you lead on parting, not just on initiating. Women want a mix of push and pull. If you are all pull, they will be all push. If you keep mixing it up, when you push her away she tries to pull you back in.

It’s similar to another one - say a woman reaches out to shake your hand, you can use her hand to pull her in and touch her arm upper arm, or even shoulder or upper back. The hand you got by formality - she’s actually less protective of the other things than of her hands, so you get away with it. There are many ways to jump to a more protected touch based on context - then anything lower is unlocked. Make sure you don’t just pull her in and do the touch, but also push her back out to the initial frame. You maintain the lead though both the pull and push.

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in reference to the rest of the post:
1/2 spray of P75 @ 10 mcg /spray (5 mcg application) + 2x IG.

Out in public open-air area, full 10 mcg of P75.
In close quarters and smaller rooms, you want 2.5-5 mcg P75, hence the 1/2 spray I recommend.

Don’t do more than 2 sprays of IG - it will give you panic attack or headache in many cases.

You can add 1/2 spray of Heat - I suggest you wait until you have reached the stage of holding hands and have her ON THE COUCH, you want to move her to the bedroom - sustained touches to lower back, leading her from room to room, seeing in multiple locations. Then you add the Heat to front of neck and do the kissing, the TUTH will accelerate through the final stages. If you had a lower concentration (or dillution) of eNone, like say 0.75 mcg, I would say you could introduce that amount to her at an earlier phase, and work it in gradually. See if you can mix some HEAT with cologne in a bottle at 3:1 cologne to HEAT, and use that as a gradual introduction.

Since you have some P93, maybe try a 1/2 spray of that out, see if she responds. Some women respond it more than others. I have not used it, but found P94 at 5 mcg very mood lifting.

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Thanks for the in depth reply!
With regards to :

"1/2 spray of P75 @ 10 mcg /spray (5 mcg application) + 2x IG. "

Is this an add on to my current fallout mix ( A314 + P74 + IH) ?