as an experiment, I have been testing the effects on the results of TUTH when I add in A1. TUTH is an amazing product, very sexual, and for sheer sexuality it often produces better results than even Panty Scorcher. I find that it typically works best for me for sexual results when I wear 2-3 sprays. For these experiments, I was wearing 3 sprays.
Results of 3 sprays TUTH alone were immediate interest and attention, and almost immediate sexualizing of responses in obvious ways. Sex would not have been difficult to achieve, at all.
When I added 2.5 mcg A1, it seemed to competely de-rail the effects. 5 mcg oddly enough did not de-rail the effects quite as much. Best results were seen with 7.5 mcg A1, and 10 mcg seemed to de-rail again.
With 7.5 mcg and 3 sprays TUTH, the effects took much longer to kick in. It was no longer the “grab her by the crotch and MAKE her horny enough to do something about it” effect. In fact at first I thought it had de-railed, but as the day wore on, I saw that the TUTH was shining through,. Instead of spikes of effect with backlash after each one, I got a nice smooth, natural bell curve effect and in the end, even better sexual results than 3 sprays by itself because she was moving more at her pace than the pace TUTH by itself demanded. No backlash, either.
Strange really as thats a popular combo… AMMO/IFM is my favourite combination so weird how A1 de-railed the Androstenone. Infact, I find A1 to be way more memorable and far less likely to cause “buyers remorse” than Androstenone. Catlord, do u feel there is a major difference between the effects of raw A1 and IFM as im looking into buying the LS product.
For me A1 has always derailed the TUTH effects. I have used in it in situations and conditions which w/o A1 have been very favorable and sexual. But as soon as I added A1 to that the sexual touch kind of vanished.
I have noticed that A1 helps women to ease out but they kind of start to put me into friend category rather than a mate category. For this reason I only use A1 when the red river is flowing or the mood of the opposite sex is bad.
I did notice that A1 has strong depressing effect on children. I avoid using it if I have to be around children within 5-6 hours of application. Or else I add 1 spray of IS 4X to counter the depressing effects of A1 on children and men.
I’m NOT saying that A1 and TUTH can’t work together to get that sexual side oozing out. What I’m saying is that you have to find the dosage of A1 that’s right for you, and UP the sprays of TUTH until what you get is to your pleeeezure (1 or 2 drops of A1 + 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. etc. of TUTH)!
This is a very interesting thread. I’ve never used A1 before but I always just assumed it was somewhat sexual because it was in “Instant female magic”.
In the archives I found an interesting posting by Jasmin about dosages:
In the posting she said, “Externally, on the other hand, micro, nano and possibly even pico grams of pheromones are active.”
Since A1 causes depression in some people and because it has the unusual results that catlord17 has observed I think it’s a very powerful pheromone. Because of this I’m wondering if it has the potential to overwhelm other pheromones when used in a mix.
Therefore I’m wondering that (when used with other pheromones) if the dosage should be lowered to 1mcg/spray or even 0.1 mcg/spray so it doesn’t drown out the other pheromones being used.
I suspect that at very low dosages that A1 will do a better job at enhancing mixes than higher dosages. Of course this is pure speculation.
Backlash in this sense means getting her to think with her sex organs long enough to make her wish she hadn’t. As in, forcibly bypassing the ASD and getting the backlash afterwards. So I guess you could compare that to buyers remorse.
Actually, the effect I observed was almost exactly what I expected to observe, nd here’s why.
TUTH works by causing strong, direct, purely sexual responses. It puts her “in heat”. When you reach the sweet spot, she is overwhelmed by her animal sexual desires, and stops thinking with other parts of her brain enough to do the sort of “protective thinking” she might otherwise do. That dangerousness, the edginess, the very fact that she is “overwhelmed” is what helps make the effect what it is. She in effect loses herself to the passion of the moment, and who doesn’t enjoy doing that?
Of course when the passion is gone, the normal thinking resumes, and uh-oh, she realizes she did something that now makes her vulnerable (reputation, VD, pregnancy, emotional fallout, etc.)
The A1, however, has the reverse effect: it calms her down. It makes her feel warm and fuzzy. There’s no urgency, no insanity, no passionate overload. She can think, analyze, contemplate , and deal with the effects of the TUTH. If the exposure is repeated enough, and the doses are right, she will eventually respond regardless… but the effect will take much longer, and because she was able to think etc. there is no backlash.
What surprised me was that minute amounts of A1 destroyed the effects of the TUTH completely… and it peaked in effect at 7.5 mcg, instead of where I thought it would.
“Instant Female Magic” refers to removing the bitch from the babe. It relaxes them, makes them calm. It can definitely be sexual in the right mixes, but it isn’t going to be helpful for a mix like TUTH that primarily has the reverse effect of relaxation (i.e. excitement). TUTH works by revving her engine really high. In sexual mixes where A1 is being sexual, you would have to aim for more sensual, romantic, lovemaking type of situations for it to make sense. Full body massage by candlelight with incense going, etc. Slow, sensual, intimate.
As far as the weird behavior goes women would approach me, flirt with me, hug me, grind me, etc… This would last a short time for up to a few minutes. Then all of a sudden they would just bolt and walk away hurriedly without saying bye. I fixed this by lowering my none and buffering. I sure miss the DIHL I used to get with the unbuffered none. The weirdness was just not worth it. I wonder if A1 would be a good buffer and prevent this weirdness.
TAC is probably one of the BEST androstenone buffers available. Before I thought it was impossible to wear 2 sprays of TUTH at school with 3 drops of A314. But with 3 sprays of TAC(15mcgs total) the negative effects were non-existent and I found that with 25mcgs of P83 added it really took off. So I’d suggest using TAC if you want to wear androstenone more, and keep it at a 2:1 ration of TAC vs -none. The longer you’re around your target the better it works.
When I decided to wear tuth and A1 together at my local ymca a couple years ago I was psyched and expected an awesome mix, but it sucked, it was like being a depressed and strong guy. Samson if you will, but the pretty delilah at the rowing machine didn’t think so. I’m glad I saw this thread because I’ll try it again with high taa and nols, if that doesn’t help I’ll add p74 and p83. I ought to get something from that because I know tuth can be dynamite if used correctly.
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So I’d suggest using TAC if you want to wear androstenone more, and keep it at a 2:1 ration of TAC vs -none. The longer you’re around your target the better it works.