before you were trying to discredit both of them and said that studying bandler and erickson would not help get women. but the more you understand them and their teachings, the more you understand ross jeffries teachings and nlp, hence helping you get even more gunches.
regardless, ross jeffries was the first to utilize nlp to get women. he also perfected it and taught it way before anybody else. now you just have wannabe biters who want him to retire so they can appoint themselves as the king of seduction. ross gives bandler all the credit in the world and bandler gives erickson all the credit in the world, but bandler nor erickson taught to help get women or worked on improving it to help get women.