mystery method

it was suggested to me to look into the mystery method, from multiple people.

is it safe to go ahead and buy Revelation (mystery method book) online? has anyone else bought it?

it’s only 100 bucks, i think it’ll be worht it cuz it comes with three other books too.

Opinions anyone?

A “bit” of advice, there is a “torrent” of ways you can get a book online, some questionable ones that I can’t condone..wink

Nice playing of words there haha :cool:

Lol yep :slight_smile: Rad knows what he’s talking about :wink:

Look up Vin DiCarlo’s Attraction Code book, it’s far better than Mystery method and much cheaper than the book you mention.

I’d also suggest David De Angelo’s Cocky Comedy. Especially with interaction. His way of description is superior than most. Well worth time invested.

Both Dicarlo and Deangelo are good but I recommend the Mystery Method and it’s derivatives (love systems, style life etc.) for most anyone that’s new. Once you understand the model then I’ve found you can incorporate the more advanced “inner game” stuff into it.

Mystery Method is Old School.

Still effective if you do it right

Routines are a cover up.

Natural is the way now. I recommend RSD (Real Social Dynamics)

Get the Blueprint Decoded for Inner Game and The Flawless Natural for outer game

This is all you will ever need.

The rest is up to you. Action, Action, Action, Action.

The RSD guys are great but even Tyler Durden started off as one of Mystery’s students before releasing Transformations. Routines aren’t anymore of a cover than canned responses to anticipated questions in a job interview. You know in advance what kind of qualities an employer is looking for and what kind of questions they’ll ask so you’re prepared to give the replies that portray you in the best possible light. Same thing with the MM.

Even I’ll admit that Mystery left a lot of stuff out and his outline was flawed (I had issues in the past with both friend zoning and flaking until I figured a way to incorporate info from Dicarlo’s “No Flakes”, “Secrets of Sexual Tension”, “Objection Game” and “S Cubed” into the 9 stage outline. But the basic progression model of A1-S3 is very accurate.

Inner Game is great and ultimately it should be your goal but it’s hard to teach inner game to a guy that’s shy or lack confidence. The outline and routines work because the guy can use those as training wheels until he feels confident enough to be relaxed and comfortable approaching.

Usually when guys ask me about products and methods for pickup I suggest the Mystery Method, Magic Bullets, and Rules of the Game. It gives a solid outline that you can use to develop your confidence but especially for our purposes here they teach microcalibration and recognizing IOI’s which a newbie trying phero’s for the first time might not notice and assume his products aren’t working when in fact they are.

Then I suggest they progress to Vin Dicarlo’s stuff, he has a lot of inner game stuff in the Attraction Code but his other products are more techniques and strategies that can fit nicely within the basic model.

The RSD guys are level 3 imo, more advanced, relaxed and less technique oriented.

The final stuff is David D, Carlos Xuma and Dr Paul. These are TRUE inner game things and not everyone I’ve spoken to likes them because they shift the focus from the girls to yourself and improving yourself as a man, cultivating your own masculinity and maturity

Both are good. The great thing is you can work your inner game, while outer game. Inner takes longer.

If you don’t work the inner game, you’ll struggle keeping a quality girl.

De Angelo has, “On Being a Man” and “Inner Game” series. That combined with Blueprint Decoded you can’t go wrong.

Mystery created most of what we now see derivations of in the community. His greatest asset, however, is also his greatest flaw : he’s too technical. At the end of the day, I am assuming you want to a)get laid many times and/or b)create a healthy long term relationship. The fact that Mystery’s material works, given his incredible lack of social IQ (just watch his infield videos), is really more of an insult to women than to men. Most men are socially retarded, and thus think that they need some overly complex set of routines/models/theories to land many beautiful women. Seducing a woman is not hindered by her, but by you. You are your own limitation. This is not some type of theoretical BS, it’s the truth that you eventually discover after spending years trying to be a PUA.

You can learn MM and get laid; but, at some point, you’re going to have the realization that the PUA facade that you’ve created, will not work in a long term relationship. Then you will have to go back and remove all of the unhealthy conditioning that you learned to become a PUA.

Now, this does not mean that you can’t get laid like a rock star in a healthy way; you absolutely can, but you have to learn to be attractive in a healthy way. "We’re a generation of men raised by women. . . "-TD (Fight Club). Most men have no idea what it means to be masculine, and the pua community sells it as some uber-competitive-alspha-male BS idea.

I don’t get into the pissing contest of who is the best PUA anymore, so I’ll leave you with a suggestion of where to start :

theREDmole Change your lifestyle.
-His name is El Topo

Be aware of gurus who tell you how great they are, without actual evidence. This is huge problem in the pua cummunity. Remember, this is a very lucrative business.

Another thing you might want to do is go to Ladder Wiki - Free Relationship Advice and Dating Tips for Men. This was suggested to me last year by a very dear friend on this forum and I must say I’m glad I looked at it.

It’s not the most “in-depth” but it will give you some good advice about social interactions, what causes attraction, and of course improving yourself from within. I still read it now because what it talks about is still useful to me today, especially with all the crap that goes on.

I also recommend you go here:Self-Confidence, Insecurities, and the Value of Your Own Life - by RedSeraph - Ladder Wiki. Even if you don’t think this is a problem, I still suggest you read it at least once because the advice in here is very sound.

I like Dave DeAngelo. I think he gives most PRACTICAL and friendly advise for most avg joes. Personally, I don’t really need any of these guys or methods.
But I do follow the basic mystery method style: initially, create attraction (mones have helped increase and accelerate this 100 fold); then make things comfortable (girls always find me comfortable and I am usually chill and confident around girls, so this was never my problem); seduction stage is the hardest, since you have to time and plan it right. You have to make the girl feel glad about it without having doubts and regrets ( with mones I can get away with more mistakes now).

Everything else should be spontaneous and come from you. It all comes out from my inner core. It doesn’t matter if you are not buff, rich, tall, charming; also, who cares if you have no prestige, status, or power. All that adds up to attraction, but it is STILL you that have project everything right.

I’ve read so many books about Pick Up, Women, NLP, …, and come to the conclusion that:

1st) You have to train and practice your INNER GAME (like Pook says:“Be a man!”), learn about and understand Mother Nature in a respectful way, affirmations, etc.

2nd) Build up your life and lifestyle. Get a better job, work on your body, etc. (like Mystery wrote)…

3rd) Then you can go out and practice your OUTER GAME. (Waste no time, follow the 3-second-rule, don’t lie, congruency, rapport, patterns, embedded commands,…)

4th) And … one day… after years of practice… OOPS! The girls will fall for you.

5th) In the meanwhile read Tucker Max’s book “I hope they serve beer in hell” to get an insight how to be an asshole. Another book in this category i’ve read is “The complete asshole’s guide in handling chicks”
…

Therefore… the best resource in my opinion is:
The Don Juan Bible

Especially “The Book of Pook” <— read 1st, then go on and read the other articles, …!
After that -> Do the DJ-BootCamp for training, and write down right here on this forum your experience, hits, negatives, and your whole journey to paradise - of course with the small help of pheros… :wink:

cul8er.

-yetis-

YUP, start with inner game first. VERY IMPORTANT to get it right. The rest will kind of flow by itself… LOL
DIGGER
PS : what is best to my opinion is discovering and giving all you read a sense from your own perspective. Friends of mine have developped their own games that differ from opening to close, even though somewhat similar because of their education coming from DeAngelo, Mystery etc. Incorporate as much as you can, then develop it all. Does it take time ? Yes it does. What is the reward ? LOL, there are many, the world is yours to discover…
DIGGER

I don’t even know where to start.

The only good thing about Mystery Method is getting a general understanding about female psychology, how-ever it makes you think too much in field and should in my opinion only be used AFTER interactions to analyse. I do note a warning here, because you might OVERanalyse reactions.

Okay clear?!

Next, we got RSD, they’re great guys I’ve met Tim and Ryan, Tim deffo got something going on for him. I didn’t think Ryan had much presence though. I do recommend looking at Blueprint how-ever, Tyler only ONCE cites his source.

You can get the same from the following books, instead of just watching Blueprint.

  1. The Superiour male by David Deida
  2. A new earth and Power Of Now by Eckhart Tolle
  3. Psychocybernetics
    étc

Next step, Vin DiCarlo

He’s one of the better teachers out there, how-ever he’s slowly turning into a marketing machine aswell(good or bad I do not judge) but I do wonder what the quality of the information will be.

I higly recommend the Attraction Code Decrypted by him!

Another stop?

Yes, another sign post.

The following authors people do not know or barely know, how-ever these are some of the most bullshit free authors I’ve come across.

First of all we got 60years of challenge, a 30 year old guy who simply loves woman, he how-ever has a you take your balls and approach mentality and you need to have some solid confidence.

I highly suggest reading his posts at the mASF forums, AND reading/buying his book escelation is attractive(If anyone PM’s me and knows how-to work torrents PM me :wink: i will help you).

Next author(s) that are not so known.

Rob Judge and Zack Bauer - 4 Elements of game

It’s a great e-book which I havent been able to finnish yet, but they cut right true the bullshit and get honest with you(just like 60 years of challenge).

Who We Are : Date Hotter Girls

And some a last addition

Nervous Guy - Home

This is a course you follow, which both tackles inner, and outergame(mainly inner) it helps you get more of a foot on yourself and just get honest and congruent. Increasing your confidence with the help of CBT like techniques(which have a scientific verified background)

I’d also like to add 2 non directly pick-up programmes

  1. The Sedona Method
  2. The Work by byron Katie

Both help eliminate, release negative emotions and beliefs and can be applied to any area of your life.