Well that sucks, I just wrote this all out and accidentally hit the back button, thus deleting it. OK so here we go again.
If you are new and really want a basic understanding of how and why women react to “bad guys” and why nice guys do finish last then I must suggest you start with David DeAngello’s Double Your Dating eBook. For $20 its well worth it, even if you’re advanced.
Dating Advice For Men | How to Attract Women and Use Pick Up Lines
He does offer some other very valuable programs, most of which I have seen, read, or own. His program on Deep Inner Game is incredible but VERY long.
My next suggestion is one of either two directions you could take.
- The Mystery Method, but Mystery is not associated with the website that bears his name. It’s a long story and not believing in forwarding unnecessary feuds I’ll leave it to you to seek out why if you choose. You can still find his book in just about any bookstore now-a-days and yes its called The Mystery Method, or you can obtain his revised “Revolutions” eBook at his new website: www.VenusianArts.com
It’s also home to a very public forum that I used to post often too, but after the show came out just got to many trolls on.
Now you can believe the HYPE if you’d like about canned material, but do understand that the canned material is ONLY a guide or examples of how things work and not to be used as your own. It’s like a text book on how to write a good story. It tells a story, but that doesn’t mean you use the story as your own. Mystery offers a comprehensive step by step outline of how human interactions work and why. Practice makes perfect and with this program you need to practice. Take it from my many, many nights of practice, stick with it. The results are over the top once you master it.
- My second suggestion is expensive but the value is incredible. Its a comprehensive learning experience that uses DVD’s, CD’s and text to teach, but oh my, what an experience it is. wwwRealSocialDynamics.com
Now I know that Tyler Durden got some really bad press and again, I don’t much care about the back story. I can tell you that his programs are valuable and IMHO worth every penny, albeit expensive. You might want to start with something like Mystery though and get a basic understanding of why what Tyler teaches works though as Tyler himself also learned from Mystery himself. If I had to recommend only one of his programs, hands-down, Flawless Natural! It’s Flawless and works miracles.
Only to be fair I’m going to add Love Systems Magic Bullets. When Mystery still had Love Systems, formerly known as The Mystery Method Corp he worked with a guy named Savoy. There were some lawsuits and lots of hatred that I just don’t care about. Anyway Savoy put out his own eBook called Magic Bullets, which to me is just an over analyzed version of the original Mystery Method. You can still pick up the Mystery Method in any bookstore and is a great way to go if you prefer an actual book to eBook. If you want though and really want to get into not only the outline of pickup, but an outline of the outline than Magic Bullets is for you: Home - Love Systems - Formerly the Mystery Method Corp. - Pickup artist skills and dating advice
If you are looking for something more natural then again I have a couple of suggestions. The first is going to be Wayne Elise AKA Juggler. His methods are really enticing to someone looking to be himself without getting to much into theory like the others I already mentioned. Please understand though, regardless of what avenue you take, you WILL need to work and practice at it. There will be some setbacks, but man-oh-man the first time you go home with a hottie after using something you learned is well worth it. Wayne ‘Juggler’ Elise’s Charisma Arts BTW, juggler offers some magnificent free podcasts.
I’m not sure why I’m even putting this here, but I want you to know my experience with PickUp101. Overall they have some OK material as far as natural game goes, but there billing SUCKS. It took me 6 months and charge backs through the bank to get them to stop the recurring billing. DO NOT sign up for any recurring billing. They were sending me DVD’s every month and many were OK quality, but what I didn’t like was some were the same-old, same-old just with a shiny new label stamped on. Really I got just a few good DVD’s out of the many, many they sent me. Lance Masons program on Kino was the very best I ever bought. It’s the only reason why I’d even mention them again. I’m not sure if its available as a single product, but truthfully if it wasn’t for that DVD, I would NEVER recommend them: Attract Women With Dating Tips and Advice for Men from Lance Mason, Pick Up 101, and the Art of Attraction
Another source for natural pickup is a great guy called Romeo. I learned so much from Jae Ellis (Romeo) when we went out together in L.A. He taught me all about being comfortable with awkward situations and using it to my advantage. I still use his stuff today and recently posted about some of it in my thread Ammo To the Rescue. Works like a charm every time. Dating Advice: Find A Great Relationship Or Date Like A Rockstar | AskRomeo.com. Just to give you a little bio about Jae, don’t let his model looks fool you. He practices what he teaches and I have film of live pick ups with him. The woman actually agreed to an interview with me. It was very incredible and I anticipate the day we release it. Jae used to teach for the creaters of The Rules for women. That’s right, he is so good, he taught women how to pick up men.
Of course once you have a women in your bed what are you to do with her? For this I only have one suggestion Sex Tips And Female Orgasm Techniques He is a master and a friend. I can tell you that I have associated with many of these guys and gone out with them. This guys is so genuine he is just an amazing person. His girlfriend is beautiful, super-cool, fun and taught me Yoga
. Whats not to love 
It’s funny, I actually met Alex because I was so hitting on his girlfriend, who as you might have guessed is beautiful. I was talking to David DeAngello and Alex Allman and just had to meet the incredible blond with perfect posture. David and Alex got a big kick introducing me to her and not mentioning that Alex, (12 year Krav Maga instructor) was her boyfriend. Yeah I’m not sure why I still recommend anything by either of them anymore. Haters I tell yah:o. They all got a good laugh out of it though.
He puts out a very informative, non-intrusive marketing wise email series too. Seriously though I have learned exactly what to do to keep the ladies very satisfied and “coming” back for more and more, over and over. Earth shattering.
Neil Straus wrote a little book called The Game. It is not an instruction manual, only an embellished story about how he learned game. Every time I picked it up to read I got about three chapters in and never completed it. Why you ask? Because I was so freaking motivated to get out there and make it happen for myself. He also has a program and another book called Rules of the Game. Very informative and a great introduction to his techniques. When we were at the Hard Rock in San Diego I got to witness some over the top pick ups by the worlds self-proclaimed “greatest” pick up artist. I was pretty impressed with what his book taught, and to be able to see it in action one on one at the bar was pretty freaking cool too. Neil is a great guy and a good way to get into pick up.
Some GREAT freebies:
Ross Jeffries single-handedly started the entire dating community. That is undisputed. Most, if not all, of the gurus learned pick up by Ross. Unfortunately he is not given his proper recognition, but regardless of what you might hear, Ross is a MASTER, the original to boot. He is giving away his program absolutely for free. You don’t even need an email:
Speed Seduction For Free
The best place on the net for all the original articles by all the original gurus. You can read all the back emails of David D and many fascinating articles on seduction. Truly a blessing to have around. It was the original alt.seduction.forum. You know the old email forums. Anyway its now Masf and is worth its weight in Gold: Fast Seduction 101: Art of Pick-up and Seduction An Invaluable resource!
Another great site of how a Lair should work
Bristol Lair - Pickup Artist (PUA) - Seduction Database - - Pick Up and Seduction Database
PickUp Podcast: These guys produce podcasts of extreme value:
Home - Pickup Podcast - Where Gurus Gather I’m really not sure if they charge or not since I got hooked up with them through Alex Allman and have a subscription that was given to me.
There are so many blogs out there on pickup its ridiculous. I’ve cut it down to just a few that I read now.
Roissy can be quite funny at times, but sometimes crass and a bit immature but worth a gander and often: Roissy in DC
If you have approach anxiety you need to read: Approach Anxiety especially his early additions.
Of course if you just want humor and silly antics and some pick up posts there’s that crazy spontaneous blog of yours trully (yeah a shameless plug, but sheesh look at all the work I put into your response) www.JunkyFungus.com
Yeah there are hundreds more but understand I only added the ones I can remember off the top of my head. I’m sure others will fill in the blanks.
The key is to find the one you are comfortable and STICK WITH IT. You’ll read some members on here that are really flighty and want an easy way out. They’ll talk about a different one every week and ask for reviews of a different one each week. Just remember there are those that will never find the success they seek, only because they want a super easy way without putting in any work.
I can tell you it took me a good year to really get a grasp on the system that I use. Another year to fully comprehend what I learned and put it to task. Yet another year, I am currently in the midst of, to start creating my own style and become comfortable enough in my own life. Yep you read that right, three years of pushing myself and to this day I still have set backs.
But I can say it was worth every step of the way. Every woman I have grown to love and experience. Every slap, every awkward moment, every blowout, every one night stand, every heartbreak, every first kiss, every single time I have fallen in love. I could have taken the easy way out and made excuses how I am not one of those creepy pua guys. How I’m reading this book this week and that book next week. No my friend, I chose to read a book (David D) and it taught me why woman like jerks. From there I read Mystery Method and it was tough going. I wanted to stop and read others. I wanted to quit. I wanted to crawl under a rock at times. I kept steady on the course and made all the adjustments over time. I set my sights on the goal and the very first time I got to kiss a girl in a bar made it all worth while.
Just 6 months earlier I had NEVER even approached a girl in a bar. It’s a wonder how I had ever gotten laid before. I was an AFC and its damn good to not be one anymore.
Good luck in your decision and let me know if I can help in any way 