So LS, is your dosage on your bottle of P75 1.875? If thats the case, you doused Buddy Boy with 5.6mcg of P75, which is not the end of the world, and not a particularly high dose that would cause a problem, but its a decent dose. I wore 2 sprays of 5mcg before (10mcg total) and I got great results with the ladies, but I was really pissing off the guys. I wasnt really doing anything to piss them off either. I was just being my normal friendly gentle giant personality (Minnesota nice) and I was getting crusty looks and one guy I sat down next to at a bar literally gave me the over the shoulder stink eye and got up and moved across the bar. I ended up going out to my car or the bathroom or something and spraying a couple shots of IH or IS to mellow it out.
Personally, I figured out quickly that I got good results and good selfies at lower doses, so why waste pheromones eh? I would suggest that you only spray him with one spray next time and see what happens.
Re possesive behavior, it just seemed like the guy you were talking about glommed onto you and was dragging you around, possibly to keep the wolves at bay, or possibly he was picking up on your “Trance state” you mentioned as an IOI and just following through with you. Either way, they are good hits.
no did I do the math wrong? 625 nanograms/spray x 3 sprays = 1.875 micrograms sorry didn’t specify.
No, no, you are good. I just didnt know what you started with. My bad. Nevermind. I had to take organic chemistry twice in college… :o
“I know you think girls like me can get boys to do whatever we want…” Looks like you did. Congratulations. We have research data. A pity to let the phero-industry bastards (our gracious hosts excluded) get hold of it. We may have to go…Underground. As any good, deviant sex cult should.
Stimulants? How long do you not want to sleep for? PM if needed.
Alright, temptress. For your good deeds, I grant you three wishes.*
In other news…something about androsterone and TAA is fucked.
*Some restrictions apply.
Before androstanone was readily available, people would have sold a testicle at the flea market to find a P75 analogue. aNone is actually much closer to a different P. It ain’t 75. But since your typical dumb-ass phero wizard out there didn’t spend 2006-2014 testing the molecule–they’d rather steal someone else’s research than pay to do their own…the better the quality of my or your posts, the more certain entities–One in particular–will boast about decoding it and selling it, either as a single or in products. I personally consider that numbered putatives are protected by law, just like the KFC secret recipe. Private parties may test for personal use, but surreptitious use of putatives for commercial use is not OK. Things have changed so much since 2013. Sites actively boast about their product containing P102 or similar. So the kind of freewheeling openness possible even as late as 2011 has faded.
There are those who would, in my opinion, steal every product and putative Androtics has. I don’t even think And. knows the risk. It was bad with DDOS and threats to employees. Now, they just want to put And. out of business, due to greed. The can talk that global peace and love bullshit all they want. LAL and LPMP doesn’t do that. Even LS doesn’t sink to that low. Bottom line: I don’t want to see that person selling P75. I know it will happen. Due to post-2013 commercial competition, my journal, if I ever make one, will be in a password-protected forum. Users will be verified via their personal store account (but remain private). So any colloquy about P78 or 75 will have to be via PM…until the alleged “enterpreneurs” no longer pose a threat.
Every stolen idea is less $ and less opportunity for this company to offer what I am looking for now. And if they go, I’m forced to do business with scoundrels. I choose to take sides against scoundrels. And fake PUA who couldn’t get it in a brothel. They’d charge double. I’m not a PUA, and I don’t falsely pretend to be one to sell products. It only leaves honest men with false hope about P83 miracles. I could keep going. Maybe a blog. Scoundrels could go all crybaby to Google and close me. I’d just open another.
Hijacking ended. You may now resume course. 
Got your PM. In Miami area on business on this crap can tablet. Don’t be alarmed if it takes me a bit to get back. But, I’m thinking the time has come for a A314 type forum. Only Androtics has our real names, addresses. Access to bullshit free reporting users. Non-commercial, no non-stop-bash-A314 agenda. You like other products? Great. Hate Androtics? Got a Voodoo doll? Great. More pins to you. There are at least 5 other boards. Some of us a looking for answers. Watkins, Mobo, a few others. Wanna play guess the molecule? Sure. Wanna reverse engineer putatives so you can make a quick, ill-gotten buck off somebody else’s research? Shame on you. In all Florida public colleges, one plagiarized sentence (detected automatically)…you will fail automatically. It’s called academic integrity. The time has come. “A Storm is Brewing.” Nudity optional. But encouraged. If you’re good looking.
I actually picked up soylent green at a video tape store back in the early 90’s when I was in elementary and watched that obsessively. I think my parents were a bit concerned.
p75 trial 2, same guy
I took my best guy friend to a huge event that I know is over-populated with female doctors, (the female/male ratio is ridiculous)-- to test out the p75 on myself again.
When I opened my purse to hand him the bottle to spray in the bathroom, he saw the others I had in there and asked about them. MX274 I was waiting to spray after he had sprayed p75 so that the results weren’t effected by any self-effects. He wondered if he responded to it and I told him that I thought he did bc of the fact that he has never complimented me like that before (referring to my last entry- he didn’t know I was wearing any). He was in total denial and said that the compliment was well warranted- and that I deserved it bc my tits were out (truth). It’s not like he hasn’t seen them out before.
So I told him not to tell me if and when he sprays the p75. Halfway through the night (2 glasses of wine deep, feeling a bit more talkative/flirty) I tell him how fly he looks and what a nice a suit it is and I’m so glad he went against the tie bc he looked so much better and that I even really liked his glasses. He replies “Really? are you fucking kidding me? I literally just sprayed that shit in the bathroom 5 min ago!” (total 1.875 mg)
Me being in a bit of a shock responded “well I was thinking it all night but didn’t get a chance to really tell you until now” (truth) So I leaned in to smell it on him and still no arousal or other feelings I could think of- maybe a bit of a “mysterious” feeling like I was “curious”- but unsure.
Conclusion: I think what I was saying before about having “self-control/restraint” without products is that pheromones can make you feel less inhibited and willing to act on what you are already feeling/thinking.
side story: the night that I used 3x IS/A than normal with cops to get back at that one boy- I got A LOT OF attention from men in relationships- even though their smoking hot girlfriends/wives were in the same room. To the point where I thought they must all be in open relationships to flirt with me so blatantly. Well one of the dudes (from that night) is in my favorite couple and invited us to come out after the doctor event- he invites me out a lot bc I’m friends with both of them but he is better about texting. Anyway, I show up (2 hrs after 3 sprays of MX274), he is on numerous substances and puts his hand on my leg. I flat out say “ok what is going on? are you two in a fight? do you want to talk about this? bc nothing is going to happen between us- I love you both” I realize very quickly that he is completely out of his mind, in a pretty bad place and does not want to talk about it. I end up having to convince him NOT to cheat on her with me ALL night. (why am I always the bad trip fairy and the one to prevent cheating?!)
The point: he probably has always had some sort of crush on me, but I think the last dose of my pheromones really set him over the edge from the previous party and more willing to act on that crush. Then being under the influence- no holding back.
Even my favorite lover (the one who called it off bc he didn’t want to hurt me)- once I used pheromones on him, he was calling me in the middle of the night spilling his heart out telling me how amazing he thinks I am and how I’m his favorite and how he will always care about me blah blah blah very sweet but he was also out of his mind. So I’m willing to bet that the pheromones can impact the way someone feels about you enough that they are still thinking about it when you’re not around. (I didn’t write about this night b/c I wasn’t sure if he was just being drunk/high- but in the morning he still wanted to spend the whole day with me and we went walking through Central Park and had champagne brunch with my friends).
Random: You know you’ve lived in NYC too long when you have to pee so bad after waiting in a 30 min long unisex line for ONE bathroom, that you don’t care if the fat weird slurring drunk follows you in just to do a line while you are actually peeing. Swear to god, it didn’t even phase me. (I was wearing a formal dress that covered me so it’s not like he could see anything) But arguing with him was taking too long and I really had to go. The poor guys waiting in line were so freaked out “do you even know this guy?!” Chill boys, I’m not fucking some weirdo in this bathroom or doing a shady drug deal. Some bitches just need to fucking PEE.
Yes some mones can cause what the folks here call fallout or fallout effect. It’s like they get locked in on you. They get the dreamy eyes when looking at you, become total cuddle bugs, and generally look forward to the next time they see you. Just do a search and you will find plenty O’info on it.
Another sign of it is if your gal wants to wear your clothes.
I’m not an expert on fallout mixes, but I’m sure someone else will chime in on this.
If I am understanding this, these are the basic P75 findings:
About 2.5 mcg is a useful dose on a guy.
Not intimidating to women at this dose.
Creates a “guy of mystery” effect.
I was mistaken about TAA and erone. I thought there was a clash. I’ve reconsidered.
mx274 > IS/A oral factor confirmed (well sorta)
I’m really loving this mix! The smell, the attention, the stares <3
2 sprays MX274 neck
3 sprays Diptyque Rose perfume
Day 3 of my cycle
Sweater, jeans, flats, make up, messy hair
Meeting a big strong eastern european for a brunch date. I’m on the fence about this guy- he is attractive, we get along, he has fucked up teeth which I normally don’t mind, I kinda think it’s cute usually, but something about him feels off. I was still interrupting him but not as talkative as normal- weird. It’s a nice brunch, we take a walk and then go back to his place to check out his art.
We are snuggling and looking at pictures when he says, “I love the way you smell- it’s just right”
me: OH yeah? what do I smell like?
him: It’s something more, but it’s like Wild Roses and skin.
me: why do you like it?
him: It’s hard to explain it reminds me of my childhood, but it’s making me wild- turning me into an animal. I just want to eat you, literally. (Later) ummm the smell of you is making me hungry for you- I can’t contain myself.
(your childhood bro? You want to fuck your mom? no but really I think it’s a warm/comforting feeling that he was trying to describe)
He does try to eat me, I’ve been resisting hooking up with him for whatever reason (I know I know you think I’m totally easy)- and he is literally devouring me- everywhere. I love this primal way guys get turned on- the donkey dick (the one I let him write my name on my tits) was totally the same- still have love bites/bruises all over me from him (ahhh).
Conclusion: I feel confident in concluding that MX274 is way better than IS/A- mostly because me being hesitant drives them wild enough to give me great head. Which let’s face it- makes the world go round.
and yes Monesmademedoit- I would say that it’s a nice summary- I’d add giggly and willing to compliment.
Since MX274 is an older mix that was re-released, I will have to look at it closer. It never really hit my radar before. I would only say that quite a few molecules previously described as feminine or masculine–I have come to think otherwise. I would say TAL and TAH def. seem to be. Everything else…just because one or two influential people may have said that–I might have to think otherwise. Not being interested in the all-too-familiar battle of wills, I didn’t. The implications being toward applicable steering molecules. Soylent Green being a metaphor/allegory for the fallibility of conventional wisdom. And pasteurized processed imitation “cheese food product.”
The giggly and willing to complement is the man or the woman? I would lean toward 75 almost is better on its own. Or with P83/TAL.
Hey Monesmademedoit, re P75, I have not found it intimidating to women at any dosage. I find they are receptive at most doses. The highest dose Ive worn is 10mcg though.
It is to men it can be very intimidating if it is not buffered with something. In fact, I have worn P75 unbuffered a couple of times in order to get into someones face, mostly in a business setting, trying to get them unbalanced.
2.5mcg is my personal sweetspot, and will occasionally top it up later in the day with another 2.5mcg.
IH is my buffer of choice, although I just got 2 bottles of Mol C at two different doses and I plan to use them with P75 to see if they are an effective buffer for it.
LS, Lets hope that your East Eurodude was just getting the youthful feel good vibe from the MX274 and not unearthing deep seated Mommy issues. I think I have an old bottle of that laying around that I might need to try again. So many mones, so little time…
Agreed. Women aren’t really intimidated by even high amounts. Two more threads of interest. One on MX274. That vibe could be shifted away from the maternal maybe a bit my adding straight TAL or a very small amount of androstenone.
Hey thanks for the links- I’m the worst at finding posts I want and you Monesmademedoit are incredible at it!
Yes I think it makes girls giggly and willing to compliment the guy when he is wearing it (hah! Look at you starting a complement cascade- your biochemistry is preceding you)- I’m still scared to wear it. (my buddy still has the to go p75 and says now that his regular cologne smells like it even though he isn’t wearing p75! He says he’s showered and wearing different clothes)
RE fallout mixes- help me find some info for girls getting the guy? Everything I’m reading is the guy getting the girl. And fast bc one I’ve been working on since September has a date with me Thursday but he almost always flakes.
I don’t know if it really was a maternal thing- that’s just where my mind went he said “childhood”- for example his mother has been visiting and brought some fruit from his home town and he made juice with it saying he liked it because it reminded him of his childhood and his grandmother-- whatever I’m over him. But food or fruit for thought 
and once the Fedex settles should I get erone or enone?
Have I told you lately how much I love you guys. xoxox
You can add P74 as the easiest way to boost fallout. -eNone would be about 500 nanograms per spray on women. My usual rule is women test at 1/5 the male starting dose. 500 nanograms vs. 2.5 micrograms. This is valid for men wearing female mones. 1/10 is acceptable. I have to acquire some more beta nol before I can validate two fallout/truth serum concepts. I’m 90% confident of something fairly incredible about one putative. This latter finding is best tested by the company itself. Good enough to patent.
For those women that track their cycle phases:
Try testing P102, 10 mcg daily for 20 days or 10 mcg every other day for 30 days. Use this product by itself. Those who have the freebie tester will have 5 mcg per spray. Also note whether small amounts of male mones at any given time alter mental and physical feelings. The has been some comment about whether we develop cravings for direct contact with mones of other humans. Particularly in saliva. -eNone content of male saliva is quite high.
I wish this was like crew, picked that up in like 3 days. Loving the read so far, keep it up. Phero’s are beautifully sophisticated, but beauty isn’t always easy. T__T
more MX274 observations, P74= def fallout power
Re: guy friend who were the P75 at the doctor event, one of the girls kissed him in the cab and another (who is in a serious relationship) was def flirting with him right after he sprayed and asked me about him a week later:
her:so he is def not your boyfriend?
me: nope just good friends
her: but you did bring him to the “Event”
me: yeah bc there are never enough guys, wanted to introduce him to the girls
her: and??
me: what?
her: sooo did he like anyone?
me: he was over-whelmed, there were too many people there
her: yeah I know, I was overwhelmed too
me: (just starring at her)
her: that’s all! (shyly and quickly runs away)
reminder: he is an avg asian guy of avg height 29 yo- dressed to kill that night.
This weekend, two guy friends’ birthday parties
in a dress and heels both days
3 sprays MX274
625 ng P78 (wtf am I going to do with this microscopic dose)
Days 9-11 of my cycle, pre-ovulation (Ovulated on Day 11)
– I want to revise the chatty description and say that I’m more like one of my girlfriends I totally admire, witty and quick on her feet, with hilarious responses that gets everyone in a good mood and livens the party. I worried about being an attention hog bc I was def too talkative at dinner/brunch (a trait I hate in girls), but when I waited for others to talk, they weren’t really making any convo, so I took full advantage.
– made a bunch of new girlfriends, who warmed up to me instantly and it felt like we had been friends forever. (I am so excited about this- so hard to make girl friends I like)
– still got really adorable “oh wait, that girl is really hot, hey gorgeous” from strangers, repeatedly
– I can normally do a hair flip, smile, and shy gaze at a boy and get him to come talk to me in 10-45 min depending on the crowd/atmosphere. With this mix, it’s INSTANT. I smile at everyone who I make eye contact with, so if it happens to be a good looking guy, it’s so fucking easy from here. Honestly, it feels like cheating. They rush over to talk to me and it’s downhill. This happened Sat night after 8 hours of day drinking- I was on the brink of blacking out and had some “substances” on me for a friend who never showed up. Hot dude convinces me to do it with him and well- it turns into an 8 hr sex marathon that I totally needed. SO HOT. He lives close by- I totally want to add him to the rotation-I’m really getting annoyed with my current boys.
– The two guys I really wanted to see this weekend both blew me off 
(1. my favorite lover who was spilling his heart out a few weekends ago and 2. the one I was hoping to try p74 on who always flakes- he’s also the one who I had to go save from a bad trip and I picked him over the lesbos- bad choice in retrospect) Even though we are just casual lovers, both of us have feelings for each other that we try to oppress and not talk about it bc neither of them are in any place to handle a relationship in their lives right now.
10 mcg p74 cleavage (didn’t realize it was 5 mcg/spray until 2 sprays)
3 sprays MX274 in my hair
favorite LA boutique dress, pumps
Day 11, ovulating! my fave time of the month!
wine bar date with a doctor I met through a mutual friend. I don’t date other doctors- they are usually too cocky or think they are better than me, or don’t respect my field, or get competitive/insecure- or are just way too busy/boring for me. For the record, my bestie believes I’m destined to be with another doctor bc they are the only ones I can relate to both intellectually and in the party-sense.
– I am SO glad I was curious about the P74 to try it on him bc OMG- this is the first guy in a long while that I saw some real long-term potential with. He is a 6.5/10 in attractiveness, buff, 5’10 (about 6 inches too short for my taste)- but he was just as witty, got all my jokes, really intelligent, business-minded, genuine, and I felt extremely comfortable around him. We also have similar life goals and tastes in musics so it was refreshing to have future conversations with him bc he was extremely impressed with me and not intimidated.
– the “trance” eyes were def there, but his compliments were so specific- it felt like he was liking me for all the right reasons. I normally get very generic “you’re pretty/fun/cool/smart” but he was noticing how quickly I got ready and was willing to rally even though super hungover, what a kind hostess I was and my attention to detail, loved my vinyl collection, impressed with my random scientific knowledge, liked how powerful I was about my life goals and how I know I’m going to achieve them, picked my brain about my research and contributed some amazing things for me to consider, blown away by my childhood struggles and how I put myself through college, appreciated my sense of humor-- honestly this may all sound dumb to you- but these are things people rarely notice about me.
– a few of his compliments were so sweet that I actually got shy! This only happens with big strong hotties or some natural phero-cloud, but there were points where I felt super blushy that I couldn’t make eye contact with him! For the record, he got cuter and cuter as the night progressed because of his personality. And, I’m a sucker for someone who is really into me. If I can tell that someone really likes me, all of a sudden I’m way more interested than I would have been had they only been kinda interested in me. That whole “chase” thing does not work on me. If someone doesn’t like me, I could give 2 fucks about them.
– we had an intense make out session and cuddled with the dog and I was really hesitant to take it further bc I know how quickly sexual women get marked as “too horny to love/marry” plus I did not feel ethically right about double-dipping him after my all night sexathon. (see? I am capable of respecting my lovers)
– we slept in each other’s arms and it was really sweet. Totally smitten. So is he! Thank you P74!
Conclusion: MX274 makes me the life of the party and I love the attention I get and the funny shit that comes out of my mouth. Totally forgot I put on the p74 during the date (I was operating under reduced brain cells from this weekend, don’t judge) and when I was re-capping the night in my mind today, I realized that so much of his behavior was indicative of someone totally falling for me. Once again- this forum comes to the rescue and is totally blowing me away. specifically, love you Monesmademedoit.
Something closer to 2500 nanograms should be where you notice effects for P78. 20 mcgs P74 is far more romantic (not particularly sexual) but also more feminine. TAH*-ish*. Thus making it a bit beta for men. Just fine for married types, but not always ideal in clubs or public situations.
Hint: I am specific about the product size and strength. 2 means 2.
- 2 sprays out of a little 2X bottle Shine TOGO can make for very interesting times, especially if your personality is naturally outgoing and flirty.*
You do realize that with my 125 ng/spray bottle that’s TWENTY sprays. I don’t know if I can handle much more romance than that- I’m an animal- remember?