Three weeks of TUTH, A314 and IFM with no results: what am I doing wrong?

Hi all

Just need some advice really recentley purchased (Turn up the heat, A314, and Instant female magic), been using these products for about 3 weeks now and hav’nt noticed anything different when i’m around people or at work especially with A314. In the mean time i’ve ordered the travel go versions of IS, Instant honesty, and ammo still waiting for these to arrive. Now am I doing something wrong??. :confused:

1 or 2 sprays of instant female magic (back of neck)
1 spray of turn up the heat (chest)

Using this combination when i’m going out with my mates

1 drop of A314 behind both ears

Use this when i’m at work

with the turn up the heat, it wont over-write anyones pre-existing opinions of you. i always thought the best situation for it was date #3+, not really an “out with friends” pheromone. A314 id think would just bring you more respect, which may be really hard to read, especially from people who already know you.

id expect better results with shine or honesty.

Peshie, there are too many unknown factors to offer you any definitive advice: what type of persona do you project, what are your social skills, how old are you, are you in shape, etc.?

Nevertheless I can say this: pheromones are merely able to enhance what’s there. They do not create something outta nothing. Ain’t a magic pill.

Basically your behavior should complement and/or reinforce your pheromone signature. So you need to be a socially forward and friendly alpha personality. Get involved at work and initiate conversations, projects, etc., that show off your new alpha status. The A314 will help amp you up but you still gotta do the grunt work. If you sit back and wait for something to happen, nothing will happen–ever. You’ll be no more sucessful than if you sprinkled a stiff at a funeral with A314.

Maybe because I’m a middle aged Asian, I need at least 3 or 4 drops of A314 to be optimally effective. A young upstart may only a need a couple drops.

Gegogi, you use 3 or 4 drops? As a fellow middle aged (I prefer the term ‘mature’ :wink: ) Asian, perhaps I should up my usage from the 1 to 2 that I’ve been experimenting with.

Ah dunno, “mature” sounds older than middle aged to me. Besides I’m pretty immature for my age!

I’ve worn as much as 6 drops to no ill-effect and increasing benefit. 3 or 4 seems about right for work or general walkaround. For clubs or dates I usually beef it up with extra androstenone (NPA) and/or beta nol. However, I suspect like many Asians, I’m naturally pheromone deficient. I seem to be able to wear higher doses than most White or Black folks.

Used TUTH when i’ve been on a date with the same girl a couple of times now and hav’nt noticed any change in her behavior towards me. As with the combintaion which i’ve used when going out with the lads, been using this combo in nightclubs and bars with no results. Hopefully with my latest shipment of IS & IH (when it gets here.lol) i’ll try different combos and see what happens :smiley:

Mmm never really tried anymore than 1 drop but will give it ago :slight_smile:

Do you mean higher doses of all pheromones or just -none?

As you age, a serious need for pheromone replacement therapy is in order! We pretty much produce less of everything. Not to mention all the other things that need fixing…

I started out with Realm years ago and never noticed much maybe one or two compliments over an entire bottle. Still hopeful, I bought Primal Instinct. I used 1 drop as instructed for a while and I noticed a few more reactions with it including at least one negative one (just a woman sitting beside me moving to another seat). I was going out one night and said screw it and put on two drops and just a little more on the tip of my finger to spread around (a total of about 2.1 drops). The results were amazing, I had more reactions in a night than scores of times put together. I’ve found I need a lot of none to be effective but the results are incredible. People say pheromones aren’t a magic potion but they have been for me occasionally. On New Years I came up to a group of my friends talking to a group of women, within two minutes one said you smell good and we were making out in under five minutes(3 sprays mx101 and 3-4 spraysTUTH). Another night I was talking to a woman I had known for years and she said “You must get laid a lot smelling like that”(2.1 drops Primal).

My advice would be to try larger amounts but in a proper setting. Work wouldn’t be a good place, try a bar or party. As the ad for IJ says if you want to see an unmistakeable reaction try IJ.

Hi peshie,

When I first started using pheromones I had no idea what I was doing. When it finally clicked man it was such a blast. In your face kind of thing that I just never had realized before. It was there all along.

I couldn’t tell a lot from your posts so I’m not sure if this would apply or not. Whenever I wear pheromones I look for absolutely no signs at all. I just try and be my happy little self, prancing along, whistling a tune, with a blue bird on my shoulder. Ho de hum (I sound like a Disney freak!). This is when my magic really works for me. I just don’t put any faith into the pheromones at all and every time it works magic for me.

From your posts I don’t really know as it’s kind of vague, but could you be focused on what is and is not happening with the pheromones to the extent that you are missing the results? Try and kick back and just enjoy yourself and maybe you’ll see the results.

Just my thoughts.

Sounds like it may be hard to improve on perfection! Seriously, here are a few more ideas. First, it is a scientific fact pheromones always work at a biological level. That is, the reception of pheromones produce some type of physiological change in your subjects such as hormonal changes. However, a spike of a particular hormone doesn’t necessarily result in immediate physical expression. Why? Unlike involuntary reactions of insects and lower mammals, the human brain controls and filters our outward behavior. We can wait to pee, skip a meal although hungry or turn down your friend’s hot wife. Pheromonal urges are no different.

For example, if you spray androstenone on the snout of a female pig she immediately assumes the mating position. No joking. Pig farmers actually do this. Unlike humans, the pig doesn’t ask questions or consider your fashion taste, bank account or social status. A woman will react deep in her limbic system but will control her urges until you pass muster.

Okay, so nothing obvious happened right away. You registred on their radar, so keep doing it. I had a beautiful Vietnamese coed visit my office several times a week while I wore The Edge. It didn’t seem to faze her one bit and I was sure nothing would come of it. I merely did my best to help her (later she helped me). Oddly, she soon found a reason to visit me everyday. After a few weeks she straight up told me she was strongly attracted to me. She thought she should drop my class as the feelings were driving her insane. Later she admitted she had started fantasizing about me after the first visit. So The Edge was working. I just didn’t know it.

Finally, in my experience pheromones work best on new friends and casual acquaintances. Super for new dates, parties and bars. With close friends and family they seem less effective, probably because they know you so well and figure they have you pegged cold. You simulated their limbic system but their higher brain functions filter you out. It takes a lot to remold their perception of you. So not so great on your ex-wife or Thanksgiving with the family (won’t hurt, just very tiny returns in changed behavior).

^^ What he said. (Kudos to Gegogi)

peshie, what about a wing-person? Someone you can take into your confidence who will be observing other’s responses to you.

Hey something I have noticed and am discussing on this thread i started: It's hard to tell if it's working, but listen to this.

May be of interest to you.