I bought my peromones about a month ago (turn up the heat, A314, and instant openness) and i have tried them on multiple occasions, with no results, it might be in the amount i’m using but i’m kinda looking for that double your money back cause i’m frusterated! I hope Jasmine reads this! The amount i’m using usually goes by one drop A314 on chin and one drop on the wrist, two instant openness on the neck and one turn up the heat on the back of my neck. What is wrong!!! 
Ohh, for your information i’m an outgoing college student who tried it on the weekends, at parties and with one or two people. i tried with many different people nothing was different. How can i go about telling whether it really works, should i just load up like no tomorrow on instant openness and see how it goes? can you overdose on openness? Thanks
We need a little more information to help. What are your goals and what did you do and not observe a response? However I can offer one generic tip: smile, act confident and initiate conversation. No amount of pheromones will make other people–especially women–jump in your lap and tell you you’re hot. Normal social rules still apply. If you were a loser without pheromomes, you’ll still be a loser with them. If you were socially successful without pheromones, you’ll be even more successful with them. They give you an edge and amp up your persona but you are still basically the same person.
Personally I’d work on using each product solo, observe results and adjust dose accordingly. Once you understand the optimal dose for each produce, start experimenting with the combos.
I’m a really outgoing guy, i guess i would be the “guy that everyone likes” but not the kind of guy they want to take home. Most everybody likes me because of the confidence i have. I think i want to get girls to want to think of me more as this confident man and a lot more sexy/boyfriend matteriel. Maybe they have a preset decision that “leo is friend,” “leo is not boyfriend” kinda thing.
If you are trying these on women that already know you, it’s going to take extra time to get out of the niche they have already pegged you into. Work on strangers.
I’m going out of town today, (13 hour drive) to a place where no - one knows me… i wasnt going to take the stuff cause i was thinking they don’t work but i guess this is where i’ll experiment for the critical point… haha nobody knows me so if i make a fool of myself there is nothing to worry about overdosing! I still want to know why it hasn’t worked yet, i had one girl (when i tried just two drops of turn up the heat say i smelt good… i’m not looking for a “you smell good” phrase. Am i not getting hits because girls are talking about me like boyfriend material when i’m not around, but not showing. I’ve done some serious flirting with some girls but they still just think of me as a friend. …humf…
Well have you been mixing them like that each time or have you tried each one individually?
I would say that you should try each one individually for a week. (or 7 uses with days off in there somewhere to prevent buildup)
you can run a search on each of these, and find out what type of situations you can use them for.
Once you have a feel for how each one changes you and those around you, you can start fiddling around with the doses.
ex. If you try 2 sprays of instant openness on your first time (i would suggest starting small at the begining) and you don’t notice anything, you might want to try 3-4 sprays next time. You’ll know when you are getting hits, but you have to be aware that it might not always be obvious. look for hair twisting, and other subtle IOI’s that are listed in the Mystery Method. The Attraction Forums - Powered by vBulletin
Once you have a base of knowelge of how they work, you can start mixing more accurately.
If you don’t get a feel for each one individually, you wont know what to even begin looking for when you mix them. Plus the better your undertanding, the better your future mixes will help you meet/date/hookup with women as your mixes will be tailored to your own body chemistry
In other words, be scientific about the way you apply the pheromones, and your status with women will improve faster than if you just use guesswork.
Also, I know you said you were outgoing, and i believe you, but this is really important.
20% pheromones
80% game
You should still be able to get the girls your getting on your own, but the phermones will make the first parts alot easier. Don’t replace your game with them or use them as a crutch.
let them aid your already great personality, and make sure your personality is congruent with your pheromone signiture.
Most of all, have fun. It can be a wild ride once the train starts moving.
thanks perronic, i know about the game part. I have plenty of game because I’ve had plenty of girls before i ever stumbled on pheromones. I guess in the long run I’m looking for a mix for a girl who has been my best girl friend and me being her best guy friend to just nudge her over the I’ll never date any guy, cause I’m never getting married. She’s had a ruff family life and i kinda think we should take it to bf gf. I’ve never tried the pheromones around her because i want—as you say---- to get the science behind how each one works. i just haven’t seen anything different/out of the ordinary. does anybody know jasmines max for turn up the hear, A314, and openness, all done at separate times.
on average:
Instant openness is hard to OD on, but i would consider 6 sprays a decently heavy dose (depends on whether you have regular or 2x) but you could still try more if you find that that isn’t working well for you
A314 is a great pheromone, but i’ve read it doesn’t always work well on people your age. My sweet spot seems to be 2.5 drops. people in their 30’s tend to report 3-4 drops as the sweet spot. Some even go as high as 5.
Turn up the heat is a tough one because it has a fair amount of -none in it(about 15mcg i think) and you are 18 years old. Your -none production should already be pretty high. Specifically i’ve used it when I bring girls back to my room as thats when it seems to really kick into gear(1.5 sprays seems to work pretty well for me). I havn’t had much success out in public with it(at parties or bars).
Thats how they work for me, hope that helps.
TUTH is 2.5mcg of none per spray
Im sorry, i was thinking of Instant Jerk, my mistake. However, what i said about the 1.5 sprays was for Turn up the heat.
Sorry for the confusion
Don’t expect immediate responses from people who know you well (as in friends). People who have known you for a while have hard-wired perceptions of you based mostly on past experience. Generally people who know you well are less responsive to pheromones because existing perceptions tend to override the artificial pheromones signature you put out. Even if they do register with these people, it can cause negative reactions, as these effects are miscongruent to how they perceive you.
Pheromones work best at building initial impressions, however perceptions are adaptable with time and repeated exposure. Repeated use around people you know can make long term perceptual changes, but I think it really needs to be backed by a more tangible, recognizable change in behavior, how you look, how you carry yourself…etc.
Ok.. I’ll be honest with you. There is yet to be a product that makes every woman turn around, look at you, and get wet while you’re passing by them on the street. Maybe my testimonial is based on my limited bank of pheromones (as per my profile) but I recall someone on this forum stating that pheromones simply INCREASE your chances and make your game “appear” stronger… (NOTE: You do need to have some level of Game).
If I’m wrong.. someone please advise.
Regards
Sorry this doesn’t make sense to me. You are saying that girls think of you as friendship material, but go on to say you got plenty of game.
Umm that’s a complete contradiction of terms. Having plenty of game does not put you in the LJBF state at all.
Good point there! Always have self-confidence and use whatever abilities we have to achieve our desires in life…external “help” such as pheromones and others are like added “bonus” to us. Keep trying and don’t give up, ok! Good luck!
strange because your young so you should be reacting on less pheros as your body should be producing better than most of us.
try this: OD..and when i say that i mean really pound them on. when you wear TUTH, spray like 10 spray of it. Oding helps you know how much you need. every body is different and perhaps yours just need more pheromones to work.
very very very true. altho my best friend Nat does respond to pheromones really well. i think its because WE ARE attracted to each other, and force ourselves to be “friends”
in your case, if a girl has already put you in the friends bracket, and your trying to use a love potion to smack her on the head and go after you…no phero is going to do that. its already hard wired in her head that your not ‘the one’.
its best you try these pheromones at a club or party. btw, you need to talk talk talk. how can people possibly respond to pheromones if your in a corner (not saying you are, but most people do this)
yup, if there’s any kind of latent attraction between 2 people, even the slightest mones usage will act as a catalyst to get things rolling. that’s what happened when i tried some ebay bought APC several years ago. i got 3 instant hits on my first day of using pheromones, all from my coworker waitresses. one was sitting close to me at employee dinner time, knees touching, another one wanted to show me her tattoo, and the last one played ticklish with me and gave me her number. all these hits from APC, which has like 0.5% of the pheromone content as the ammo, pheroproof or the edge. 
I would limit your mixing until you get a feel for how each product works, especially A314. A314 is a product that consistently works, however, it will take you some time to understand the subtle differences. A314 is a product that I would stay away from in social/party mixes as it a product that gives off an aura of ‘settling down/fatherly figure.’ Parties are a social/sexual environment, so I think your use of A314 in this situation was working against you. A314 should be used in professional settings, during the day, or first dates.
I think if you had removed A314 from your mix, than you may have seen results, but it seems that you have just started using pheromones, so you should begin by using each product seperately until you understand the effects.