Wow! That is what I get consistently with TAH. This is why I like to experiment with the Putatives and come up with my own mixes. You can’t know what Androtics has changed about the original MX134, because you don’t know the starting components or their dosages.
MX134 was supposed to be something like the original A314, minus the Androstenone and with the addition of TAL? Is that right? And MX300 is supposed to be MX134 with a different lighter neroli.
I’d PM Jasmine if I were you and discuss this. This kind of awful reaction is something that I’m sure they would like to look into to figure out what went wrong with this batch.
Nope, never ever sprayed 'none or TUTH at work - ever. However, from my little TUTH experiment from earlier this week, I still have a pillow scented/sprayed with 'none (12.5mcg). I liked it tonight. It made me feel happy. I relaxed into that pillow, then started huffing it again.
Go figure.
The “self effects” yesterday were more influenced (imo) by the fact that I felt like crap and was responding to the crappy crappy way people were treating me. I was seriously abused and walked over. Sneered at. Talked down to. I normally can “sweet talk” and open doors for myself - not at ALL yesterday. People interacted with me like I was a bother, a nuisance, someone incompetent, or someone who was ridiculous.
Condescension is a good way to describe it. Along with sneering and just meanness.
But that’s others reactions.
MY reaction, from the 1st test, and the beginning of yesterday, was nothing. Not a lot of self effects with this one on me. My irritation and headache came after I seriously upped the dosage of 'rone, and I think was influenced by the crappy way i was being treated. After a day of crap being thrown at you, who doesn’t get irritated!?
I FELT this crap “evaporate” off of me in the afternoon. It was the best mental tingly feeling I had felt in a long long time. I felt normal again. Yippee!!
Still great with TAL - wearing some later today, I think.*
'rone has the “responsible, respect, i have your back” quality,
'none is “irresponsible, disrespectful, i have your back but in a different way” quality
both 'rone and 'none are male.
'rone is the major in IG
'none is the major in Instant Jerk
alot of women dig 'none just before their period,then not so much.
this may be a timing in your cycle thing .
see if you still like 'none while ON your period…
when you say “upped the 'rone” you mean with the lotion?
no doubt, when you get the "disrespect " vibe, there is NO mistaking it.
you can try to explain your experience to someone,
but you just have to LIVE it to really see what they mean!
boy, do i know THAT reaction…
Re: Smell of Androstenone, from shudder Wikipedia:
Depending upon who is doing the smelling, it is reported to be an unpleasant, sweaty, urinous smell, a woody smell, or even a pleasant floral smell.[1][2][3] The differences in perceived odor can be accounted for by the genetic differences in the OR7D4 receptor, which detects the chemical. People that possess 2 proper genes for OR7D4 tend to describe the odor for the steroid as likable to urine. Those with only 1 gene typically described the odor as weak or were not able to detect it. Those with mutated copies of the gene described the odor as pleasant or sweet. [4]
In small amounts, the odor is hardly detectable by most people. This may be due to a polymorphism in the receptor gene that codes for the androstenone receptor.[5] However, the range of abilities to detect the odor vary greatly. It has been proven that the odor can be detected by people in levels in a range of 0.2 parts per billion and 0.2 parts in 100 million.[6] Several groups report, however, that some individuals who initially cannot smell androstenone can learn to smell it by repeated exposures to it.[7]
yeah - I needed a lotion quick for my legs in my skirt yesterday, and I had thrown this “free sample” I got from another place in my desk drawer. I had lost the little insert, and thought it was just a scented lotion…
then I found the insert - Androsterone and Androstenol, androsterone heavy.
That was when it all clicked for me, and I thought I must hate 'rone.
It is more than just genes. You can also acquire the ability to smell -none through repeated exposure.
I just did a little experiment this morning. Normally Androstenone smells like 8 day old cat piss cooked on a burner to me… total toxic waste smell…
This morning I huffed a 50.0 mcg/spray of it and it smelled like… woodsy bleach.
Either the smell for me has changed because I’ve not been exposed to it for so long, or something else is going on. I am having no reaction to the pheromone at all, no anxiety, no neck and shoulder muscle spasm, and no aversion like I normally do. I also get no feelings of increased libido… I’m just getting a mild temple headache, more like pressure than pain.
I have a social meeting with SAR team this evening. (These are the guys from the rescue.)
What should I wear? They saw me in a very commanding, forceful situation, so I am thinking IS/a woudl be good to reinforce that.
I can’t really remake a first impression with this one - they met me blood covered, in daisy dukes, a geeky headlamp and hanging off the side of a canyon. There’s no real coming back from that.
Did you see Star Trek? Great movie. Make one of those guys take you. If he is gonna be around for a while he may as well learn to embrace that side of you up front … lol.
LOL - I don’t hide that side of me. I made sure to email Texas McBlues the photos of my blueprints and Vulcan shirt.
Of course, NOW the Vulcan shirt means so much more!
I did indeed have Texas McBlues take me. He is a Trek fan as well, especially of the original series, so it works out well. He’s not nearly the trek fan(atic) I am, but it works. He thought it was especially cute when I was bouncing in the theatre seat, and was quite fond of the chest beating and slapping I did to him when I saw… Oh I dunno, all the good scenes that harkened back to the originals.
I have christened him “Cowboy Spock” btw. He looks it and occasionaly acts it. He thought it was uber adorable… Until I told him I would be buying him ears.
I saw the tribble! Actually, I heard it first and immediately recognized it. Also caught the reference to Enterprise, the show, however that Admiral you named in the Lounge thread slipped by me. Had to look him up, and I’ll be damned! You ARE hardcore, TL!
I love Amok Time. (Do you think T’Pring made it off Vulcan? What’s up with the bond between her and Spock, what with Uhura in the mix now??)
I’m so glad someone else went crazy when they heard the Tribble purr.
Did you get the reference to Nurse Chapel??
Okay, so serious question here -
If, in ST:First Contact, Picard goes back in time to assist with the First Contact of Cochran and the VUlcans, but then Picard’s timeline is effected and negated by the actions of Nero in 2258/ST XI, how then did First Contact succeed?
Were the Borg effected as well, having never/not as such been “introduced” to the Federation in such a manner, and thus not having the lust for Earth that they do?
Or, are we viewing an alternate reality, similar to the Mirror Universe in that the potential to “cross” to Trek Prime exists? Can this be explained with quantum mechanics - multiple possible outcomes and differentials to each action/reaction, resulting in multiple possible universes?
I think my brain is going to explode.
Whatever it is, I think it’s unbelievably cool and just what Trek needed.
I was quite shocked with the 'rone results as well. I anticipated a reaciton much more similar to Lor’s. The ladies here seem to love love love it, so I was rather disappointed.
I seem to agree with 'none though. Go figure.
How do you get on with 'none as compared with 'rone? What’s your version of “smallish dose” of 'rone? 2 sprays of mx300 and I felt nothing (but don’t know the mcg content per spray of 'rone in the mx) and at 4 sprays - massive headache. Adding the lotion = very bad news.
I quite enjoy your posts and reports as well. Thanks again. Drop by anytime!
Glad that you would be impressed with the blood covered rappeling! I scared the shit out of most everyone I relayed the story to. I do think Rescue Barbie is a good nickname though… I might have to run with that one… it’s far better than the “Disastrous One” or “The Shit Magnet.”
Day two of period.
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