It has been suggested here and on the AD site that some mones it is best to wait some time after application before driving. I don’t think this can be stressed enough. Especially if you’re testing a new product or molecule that you’ve never used before. Self test at home to see how the product will affect you, and then take it out on the road so to speak.
I ride a motorcycle as my main form of transportation, and under some testing like 30mcgs of P83 with a refresh approx 4 hours later left me feeling as though I were under the influence for almost 20 minutes.
Not only could it be extremely unsafe, but quite possibly lead you into legal trouble.
Most days, I do not apply my mones until I am at work because I’m riding the bike and its hot as hell here.
Even when I do apply before I leave the house, I do it in a layered fashion where I’m at a min., 1/2 an hour before I’m ready to leave the house.
While certain mixes like my baseline work mix ammo, a314 and IH don’t really loop me out, its when I add something new I have not quite grown accustomed to.
Anyway, I don’t know if this has been stressed to some of the newbies here, and maybe even needs to be said as a reminder to you old timers.
Have a great day, I’m off to do a solo p83 at 40mcgs test at work.
I find I get a head rush in confined areas when mones are fresh. If I apply in the car or keep the windows shut it can make me a bit loopy as well. If I wait 10 minutes after I apply to get in the car I never have the problem
One other issue I have noticed is driving with a pheromone “crash effect” You know that extreme tiredness you get sometimes when your mones wear off. There has been a few times I had to pull over and actually shut my eyes for a few minutes. It used to happen with Ishine but now that I am adjusted to it I dont crash much anymore with it.
Its not a huge problem really just something to be aware of.
This can happen with other substances that stimulate the neurotransmitters as well. Alcohol, Caffeine even inhaling exhaust fumes.
I was just talking about something similar elsewhere. My son (16) used to like those Monster drinks all the kids are raving about. I dont like them or him drinking them but I cant attach myself to him and well he has his own money so he used to buy them without telling me.
Anyways one day he had 2 of them (those cans are huge) and after he got home and he comes down to the kitchen and he is sitting there on the stool talking to me. I notice his eyes look funny and the next thing you know he passes out cold on the floor. I totally freaked out and called 911. In the ER when the doctor talked to him he finally told him what he drank. The doctor said the overload of caffeine just shut his brain down and he was lucky he didnt go into cardiac arrest. He said one once in a great while wont hurt you but overdoing anything can hurt a person.
He wont touch them now because it really scared him. Sometimes they have to learn for themselves.
That stuff (and other energy drinks) can cause cardiac arrest especially when mixed with alcohol. Better let your son know it, so that he’ll use other mixers when/if he tries alcohol.
Many people use it as a mixer, I do too occasionally, so it’s not certain death in a can. But the risk is there.
Yeah IS did that with me about 2-3 weeks ago. Was driving my niece home from lunch and I was worried that I would not be able to keep on the road, luckily I only had a short drive when it really started to kick in.
Yeah not a huge problem, but I know a lot of these kids come in here buy, disappear without ever hearing some important things they need to consider. Mones are great, and like anything in life there is always a “downside,” and these are a couple of minor ones.
My loopiness clears up in about 10-20 mins, and the crash effect I don’t feel it so much anymore unless I pherobomb for a couple of days in a row.
There have been deaths where alcohol and red bull in combination are considered to be the cause. I still drink it though rarely. If you don’t have any heart issues I think the risk must be very small.
Yeah anything in huge amounts is not good…LOL Its all about moderation.
I think back to the parties I’ve been to when this is going on. Conventions etc. Its usually guys who’ve been up or have had limited sleep for a few days in a row, going full throttle all day long, never taking a breath. Drink, eat, party, drink, eat, party all day and night. They just exhaust themselves.
Anything and everything can kill you in just the right amount, take water for instance. Drink too much, and you can kill yourself.
I agree. There’s no reason for panic or anything, the risks are very small as long as the consumption doesn’t go overboard.
I used to drink a shitload of all kinds of energy drinks, sleep very little and work hard as hell and I’m not dead yet. And I often used it as a mixer when I drank alcohol and I drank/drink somewhat much.
If I’d had a cardiac problem, it could’ve been a different matter. Apparently the mix just isn’t a great one when health is concerned and not all young people who have a heart condition actually know about it.
