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Powerful Mix Unbuffered - bad venue choices
Pheromones
1 Spray Instant Jerk To Throat
1 Spray of The Edge Unscented to stomach
1 Spay of Chrome Cologne on top of the Edge application
1 Spray of P83 (50 mcg) to my chest
2 Drops of A314 to wrists
Other Factors
Tired - very little sleep 2 night in a row
2 Nodoz
Summary
The environments I selected where not that great for detecting hits but I did have a couple of noteworthy hits that show the power of this pheromone combo as well as it’s drawbacks. Most of the time I was dancing in an area that way way to crowded with people constantly in contact with everyone around them. It was mayhem and it was fun.
This might be a great combo to buffer with IO or A1 because even if I weaken it with buffers it may still be powerful enough to generate consistently strong hits. But I might play around with this combo unbuffered for a while too. I also want to try it without out the P83 a few times and without the A314 a few times.
Hit #1 - On the subway, I walk within a couple feet of a young hot asian girl (very early 20s) sitting next to a guy before I take a seat across from her. As I’m sitting down I can’t help but noting that she is starting at me with wide open eyes really hard while the guy is playing on his cell phone. I briefly look away for about 1 second and I look back and she is still staring at me. My social anxiety kicks in and I get very uncomfortable. I got off the train early than I was planning took a different combination of subway lines than I was planning to just to get out of that subway car. She didn’t stare at me for that long, maybe just several seconds initially. But that was enough to leave lingering discomfort.
Hit #2 - Early in the night, standing in the middle of an open area moving slightly to the music - plenty of space around me. Three women come up to me and all three of them face me and briefly form a circle with me. My social anxiety kicks in and I try to ignore them. A few seconds later they move to the side of me. Two of them (one after another) presses against me and makes solid contact with me. Then they stand there for about 30 seconds and then scurry off.
Hit #3 - I’m standing in a high traffic area sipping my drink and just standing there because the place is too packed. One girl who is walking by briefly stops, stares at me with wide open eyes and says “Hi” with a big smile and then scurries off before I can respond.
Hit #4 - In the mayhem of the dance floor I actually found a spot that had open area around briefly. A group of girls instantly fills the void in front of me and this blonde girl looks at me then walks into me then taps my shoulder with her finger and immediately turns around. I tap her shoulder when she turns around but she doesn’t respond. She is constantly bumping into me and pressing against me. At one point I touch her shoulder and she scurries off to another area. But a few minutes later she is back in front of me and making contact with me again. I think she is drunk because she is flailing her hands wildly as she dances. She inadvertently clocks me on the side of the head pretty hard. I think she hurt her hand a little on that one. Eventually the group goes away.
Just curious, but how did the Instant Jerk and the Edge act together? Was it too strong? Did you feel like you were unapproachable? I know that they both have 12.5 mcg per spray of none so I was curious.
Instant Jerk has 12.5 mcg of none + 2.5 mcg of steering molecules to intensify the jerk affect. The Edge has 6mcg none + 6mcg of secret pheromones per spray. The A314 has a little bit of none in it too supposedly.
I was around 20mcg of none which is considered by some to be right at the overdose threshold. Between all the secret ingredients in Instant Jerk, The Edge, and A314 plus the P83, it was quite a cocktail.
I did have the feeling that I was somewhat unapproachable. The combo was very strong. If my goal was to get laid then it was probably too strong. My odds of getting laid would have improved if I buffered it a little bit. My intentions were more along the lines of getting strange reactions from women for my personal amusement and a possible instant make-out which didn’t happen that night. I really need to do more testing with that combo to have a more conclusive opinion.
A1 Spiked IO
I made a new mix for buffering my intense pheromone combos. I put 1 mL of IO into a togo bottle and put 2 drops of A1 with the dropper that came with the A1. That should give me around 10mcg of A1 per spray.
I’m out of togo bottles so I had to pour out one of my older mixes. ![]()
Aww, you should do to-go testing!!! If anything I have too many to-go’s. Makes me sad they are not full anymore. How’s it going on the cologne hunt??? Have you tried the Tom Ford tobacco vanille? I hear it’s amazing and has incredible cover potential. Check da parfum section. And keep us updated.
Cologne Hunt
I ordered the following two colognes last week:
- Beat by Burberry
- Body Kouros
I usually have all my stuff shipped to my parent’s house and I’m not going to be visiting them until this Saturday. I have to wait almost another week before I can try out the new colognes.
Until then I’m stuck with Chrome and D&G Light Blue. I’ve had D&G Light Blue for a while and I like the scent but I’m not sure it’s long lasting enough to be used as a none cover. I really liked the descriptions of Beat by Burberry and Body Kouros so I’m looking forward to trying out both of those scents for a while. I think the spicy scent of Beat will make a great none cover.
Buffered Night Out - No confirmed hits.
Pheromones:
1 Spray Instant Jerk to the Throat
1 Spray of The Edge to the stomach
1 Spray of Chrome Cologne to cover The Edge
1 Spray of A1 spiked Instant Openness to the chest
1 Spray of Instant Openness to the Throat
Other Factors:
1 Nodoz
Highlights
- No blatant hits at all. No confirmed hits at all.
- May have had some more subtle hits but nothing that I could confirm. Very possible a no-hit night.
- Venue was very loud. I didn’t initiate any conversations.
- Everyone there knew other people there. I was the only one who didn’t know anyone. I think most of the people there go to the bar all the time because a large number of people knew the bartenders.
- Lots of guys in the bar that had traditional good looks and muscular physiques so the competition was intense at this place. Of course, I prefer the nights when there are a ton of hot women and few good looking guys.
- A few times as a I stood there, 2 girls would stop right in front of me. (This happened with 3 different pairs of women.) Coincidence or hit? Venue logistics made it difficult to tell if any of these were hits or not.
- One pair of girls kept of entering my proximity over the course of an hour and leaving my proximity. Each of them made incidental contact multiple times. Due to the logistics of the place it was impossible to tell if they did it on purpose or if it was really an accident due to logistics of the place. Impossible to tell if this was a hit or not. I suspect might have been because one of the girls stood directly in front of me three separate times and she made incidental contact 7 or 8 times. On the other hand, I kind of suspect that this was not a hit because these two women were hotter than any woman I’ve been with in my life. Also I saw them approach other guys so I figure if they were interested they would have been more blatant. They weren’t shy. So my conclusion - not a hit.
Took Girl Home - No sex -Awkward morning
Pheromones
1 Spray Instant Jerk To Throat
1 Spray of The Edge Unscented to stomach
1 Spay of Chrome Cologne on top of the Edge application
2 Drops of A314 to wrists
1 Spray of TUTH to my left side
1 Spray of TUTH to my right side
1 Spray of TUTH to the back of my neck
Summary
Appeared that combo put off some women but got one massive hit where girl approached me and found me to be irresistible. We went home together but we didn’t have sex.
Bar 1
The first bar was pretty small. It had a decent sized bar with a little dance floor. It was pretty empty so I sipped my drink for a while and the two women behind the bar ignored me. One of the women behind the bar was the bartender and the other turned out to be the coat check girl. A few minutes after the coat checked so I went into line. I observed that the coat check girl was very friendly with the people in front of me but when I got there she avoided eye contact with me completely. At the end of the transaction she finally looked at me briefly and gave me a small friendly smile but I think the vibe from my pheromones were putting her off.
A group of girls was dancing on the dance floor and one girl in particular kept on getting close to me as she danced. Over the course of an hour she and her friends kept on leaving and coming back to the dance floor. I eventually tried to initiate a conversation and I briefly got her and her friend to laugh but the conversation never took off.
As I was standing there, 2 women stood near me facing in my direction so I tried to initiate a conversation. They look uncomfortable with me talking to them so I backed off and they kind of scurried off. At that point I retrieved my coat from the coat check girl who was a little more friendly than earlier and then I left.
Bar 2
I to the second bar and it’s pretty empty. There is a big long bar with a dance area and there are probably about 20 people in the place with more guys than girls. I order a drink at the bar and I stand there for about 10 minutes.
No one is dancing at all in the dance area and there are little groups of people here and there. I pick a spot in the middle of the dance floor and I just stand there and daydream. I sway to the music a little bit.
After standing there for a few minutes, a dirty blonde girl approaches me and tells me that I don’t look like I’m having a good time. I tell her that I’m fine and I’m just daydreaming. She tells me that she doesn’t like to see people not having a good time and that’s why she came up to me. I told her that I could tell that she’s a nice girl and very giving.
She then asks me why I’m not gaming any of the women in the bar. I tell her that the place has mostly guys so there is not much choice yet. She agrees and tells me that most of the guys are gay. She also points out that most of the girls in the bar are unattractive and I agree with her.
Her two female friends came up to us and I waved hi to them. One of them started whispering to her and the other one was sizing me up. We spoke briefly and we introduced ourselves to each other. The two friends were about to leave and they asked her if she was coming with them. She told her two friends that she is going to stay with me. The other friend came over and said hi to me. Then the 2 friends left.
Somehow we end up moving over the bar from the dance floor and just have a bit of small talk with some rapport topics thrown in. At one point she asks me when I graduated college. I tell her and she looks shocked. She says, “You’re old!”. I reply, “You’re young.” She continues to harp on how old I am and I simply shrug my shoulders like I don’t care. She then mentions again that she just came up to me because I looked like I wasn’t having a good time. At the same time her body language was very touchy.
At this point I could tell she was conflicted. On one hand she considered me to be an old man and I was the guy just standing there without talking to anyone so she should not be interested in me. On the other hand she was feeling a massive attraction to me that didn’t make sense to her.
So she walks away from me and initiates a conversation with another guy at the bar about 5 feet away. So I turn my back on them and just observe the crowd looking for a girl to cold approach. Within 30 seconds, she re-initiates contact with me and continues the conversation. At this point she is making lots of body contact with me.
She mentions again that I’m really old and how I am lucky that she walked up to be because I wasn’t having a good time. I put my arm around her and pull her in and gave her a kiss. At this point the flood gates totally opened up. For the next half hour we were making out at the bar. She would make out with me like there was no tomorrow. Then she would pull away and shake here head. Then she would lunge back at me and start making out again. At one point I told her to invite me to her apartment and she shook her head no but she still kissed me like she was possessed.
After a while I said, “Let’s get out of here and she said OK.” When we were outside I asked if she wanted to take me back to her place. She told me that her place is not an option because of room mates. I then asked her if she wanted to come back to my place even though it’s a bit further. She asked me if there is a 24 hour breakfast place near me and I said yes. She then agreed to come over so we flagged down a cab.
On the way back, we made out for about half the cab ride and then she cuddled with me and sort of fell asleep. The taxi dropped us off at my apartment and we were walking upstairs. She said, “Did I agree to come here?” I said yes and pointed out our discussion about the 24 hour breakfast place. It dawned on me that she was probably more drunk that I realized. I thought she was just lightly buzzed because she was very coherent when we were chatting at the bar. As I looked at her she looked very tired and drunk and was stumbling around. She said that she couldn’t believe that she was in Queens right now. I told her that if she was uncomfortable I could flag down a taxi for her to go home. She said it’s okay. She asked if it’s okay if we just go to sleep and I said that’s fine.
So we enter my apartment and she mentions again that I’m lucky she came up to me and talked to me. I shrugged my shoulders. She also said that she is usually the responsible one in the group. I mentioned that she probably felt I was safe. She looks right at me and says, “you are completely safe!” and rolls her eyes. I reply, “No I’m not. I’m not completely safe.” She looks at me like I’m retarded and says, “Yes you are” in a very confident tone. So much for the Instant Jerk vibe. ![]()
So I suggest we go to bed. She lays in my bed fully clothed so I lay down next to her. She kisses me some more but I had already decided that she is too drunk to have sex so I didn’t let it continue for too long. I’m pretty sure that if I tried to escalate things towards sex, it would not happen anyway. But even if it would have I still wouldn’t have done it. Red flags were going off in my head and it just didn’t feel right at this moment.
So we just cuddled a little bit. Then in less than a minute she was snoring. So I layed on my back and moved slightly away from her. She woke up and moved closer towards me. Somehow she ended up in the middle of the bed and I was pushed right to the edge so it was a little uncomfortable.
In the morning we woke up and she commented that she could not believe how drunk she got last night. She said she had a massive hang over. She was very cold towards me. She asked how to get back to Manhattan and I said that I’m heading to Grand Central so she could ride the subway with me. She got bitchy and said that she wanted to take a taxi. I told her that if she wanted, I would walk outside with her and show her where to get a taxi. As we were walking I considered asking for her phone number but I decided against it because she was acting cold towards me. So we see a taxi coming and she says, “Now what?”. I say, “Flag down the taxi”. So, she flags down the taxi, enters the taxi without even saying goodbye. She did not even look back at me.
I kind of felt depressed at that moment. The previous night she was smiling most of the time when we talked and she was glowing. I was really enjoying her company. I would have like things to continue like that in the morning but she was cold and bitchy in the morning.
First night out with The Beat
Pheromones
1 Spray of the edge to throat
1 Spray of the beat cologne to throat
1 Spray of the edge to my stomach
1 Spray of the beat cologne to my stomach
1 Spray of P83 (50 mcg) to my chest
2 Drops of A314 to my wrists
Summary
Inclusive -some possible hits but nothing that could be confirmed. I did’t get out till almost 1AM and I stayed out until 3:30 AM and the bar was packed the entire time.
Possible Hit #1 - I was standing at the bar near the entrance where it wasn’t crowded. It Looked like a girl in front of me made eye contact but it was too dark to tell for sure. She moves away from her group to about four feet to the left of me. I attempt to strike up a conversation and I can’t tell if she is receptive or not. She gives no IOIs and no indicators of disinterest either. I attempt to spark a conversation twice with passing comments. So I just stand next to her and she continues standing there for a minute or two and just rejoins her friends.
Possible Hit #2 - I was on the dance floor area looking for a spot to start dancing. It was really packed and most people weren’t dancing. A petite girl starts leaning against me with her back like I’m a pillar. She does this for about 30 seconds until I get pushed aside by someone trying to walk by. If the venue wasn’t crowded, this would have definitely been considered a hit but inconclusive in a packed bar.
Possible Hit #3 - I’m standing near the edge of the dance area and a girl starts dancing directly in front of me making lots of physical contact with me. Her back was touching my chest. Again, in a lesser packed venue this would be a hit. Too hard to tell on a packed dance floor.
Possible Hit #4 - I find an open area in the dance floor and start dancing and it immediately fills in within seconds. Three girls appear next to me with the girl next to me making contact with me on and off for several minutes. At one point it becomes too crowded to dance so I’m just standing there and she is just standing there. She presses her arm against me for 10 or 20 seconds at a time. If the venue was not packed, this would have been a hit. Again, was impossible to consider this a hit because she just might have not had enough room to avoid touching me. On the other hand, I can avoid touching people when I’m standing there in a packed venue. So she might have done it on purpose or subconsciously. Who knows?
It takes a lot of balls to get a girl home with you the night you meet them. It takes a MAN to realize that she isn’t in a state for consensual sex. You’re a good man.
Evening out with platonic Ex-Girlfriend
Pheromones
3 Sprays of Instant Honesty
1 Spray of The Edge
1 Spray of The Beat cologne
I had a drink and went to a movie with an ex-girlfriend of mine from a few years back. We have been completely platonic for over 2 years and we hang out from time to time. She was one of the few women who was attracted to we with my natural pheromone signature so I didn’t want to go to heavy on the pheromones.
The evening went like it normally does with her. We had a nice conversation at a bar before the movie as we always do. She seemed to be talking a bit faster than she normally does but I’m not 100% sure about that. At one point she got into lots of detail about how her boss mistreats her and at one point she looked like she was going to cry. That was a little bit unusual. Could that be a Instant Honesty hit? Or was it just a coincidence? I don’t know.
There was nothing drastically different about this interaction than a normal interaction with her without pheromones.
Yes, Honesty effect… 3 sprays are too much and crashes the none effect as well. I don’t like betanol and the deep emotional discussion with women. I will picking up them… ![]()
Yeah I agree with you on this one. Instant Honesty is not the best product to use when picking up women in bars. It probably is a good product to use when I want to talk to a woman without sleeping with her.
Late Start, three hits
Pheromones
1 Spray of The Edge to the Throat (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of The Edge to the Chest
1 Spray of The Edge to the Stomach (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of P83 (25 mcg) to the chest
1 Spray of Instant Honesty to the chest
2 Drops of A314 to my wrists
Summary
Got a late start, didn’t get to the bars until 12:30AM and I stayed at the bars until around 3AM. I got three hits.
Hit #1
As I walked towards the bar to order a drink this girl approached me from behind and started do dance and rub her body against my back. Due to my social anxiety, I ignored her and went to the bar and ordered a drink. As I left the bar, she again started to dance against me and rub her body and boobs against me but due to social anxiety I disengaged and went to the other side of the bar. I was totally unprepared for that but I should have done or said something. I just went blank and didn’t know what to do in the moment.
Hit #2
In another bar I was just standing there and this girl dances in place in front of me for a couple of seconds. Then she walks right up to me and asks me, “Are you having a good time?” Before I could answer she scurried away like women often do when I have a none heavy pheromone combo on.
Hit #3
I’m at another bar just standing there. A girl approaches me and says, “I really like your glasses.” I say, “Thank you” and she immediately scurries away and runs into the arms of a guy who she must have previously known. Seems that she was compelled to tell me that she likes my glasses. Instant Honesty affect?
Analysis
I think Instant Honesty works better for me than Instant Openness. In the past it was more rare for me to be approached when I wear IO with none heavy mixes. But with IH added to the none heavy mix, three woman approached me in the same night. I feel like I might be on to something here. ![]()
Strong dose of IH - A few more decent hits
Pheromones
1 Spray of The Edge to the Chest (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of The Edge to the Stomach (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of P83 (25 mcg ) to the chest
2 Sprays of Instant Honesty to the chest
2 Sprays of Instant Honesty to the back
2 Sprays of TUTH to my sides
1 Drop of A314 to my wrists
Summary
The night started off slow without any hits the first hour but after that I got a few solid hits.
First Bar
I got no hits that I noticed in the first bar. By they time I got there it was too crowded and there were more men than women. There were several hot women there but I seemed invisible to them.
2nd Bar
The second bar was pretty packed when I got there but it had more of a dance/pickup feel than the first bar. I danced for a while but it was kind of hard because there were so many people. There were many times I was pressed against by women but it was too crowded to distinguish hits from accidental contact due to overcrowding. Therefore I really can’t count any of the potential hits as hits at that place.
Hit #1
While waiting to get my coat at the coat check line at the 2nd bar, there were two really young girls (probably around 21 years old) chatting away in front of me. I kind of watched them talked and smiled a little bit when they said something amusing. At one point the girl in front of me took a peek at me and the girl in front of her was facing in my direction because she was talking to the other girl. I’m sure she could tell that I was observing them but I was doing it in a subtle manner without staring or anything like that.
When we reached the coat check, one of the girls says to me, “I really like your glasses.” (2nd time a girl has told me that this weekend). The other girl says, “And I really like your sweater.” Then the first girl says, “You are put to together really well.” I don’t remember what I said but I was polite and thanked them. They got their coats and left and I got my coat. When I was on my way out they were standing there and one of the girls said, “I really like your coat too!”. I tried to talk to them but my brain was freezing up and nothing was flowing so I said bye and ejected.
3rd Bar
This was a somewhat upscale hotel bar and I order a drink. There was a group of 4 girls near me so I tried to listen to their conversation and find a point where it was appropriate to make a passing comment but that never came. A girl sat at the bar in front of me and I tried to start a conversation with her. She was polite but it was pretty clear that she didn’t want to converse the conversation never took off.
4th Bar
I went in to the fourth bar and immediately left. I it was not a good scene and I didn’t feel like wasting another half hour at a place that was not great.
5th Bar
The fifth bar had a decent crowd and there were plenty of cute woman. There was a front bar area and a small dance area in the back. I checked in my coat, ordered a drink, and stood there for a while. There was a group of 6 women at the bar in front of me and I was just standing against the back wall relaxing, sipping my drink, and enjoying the music.
Hit #2
Two of the girls break off from the group at the bar and gravitate near me as they dance. One of the girls stands right next to me in and touches her arm to my arm. Then she starts dancing again. At one point I look at her and our eyes meet. She shouts, “You know you want to dance!”. I put my arm around her and give her a complement and then release my arm. She continues dancing and I try to strike up a conversation. She seems interested initially but my brain freezes and as a result the conversation dies. She decides that she doesn’t like me and gravitates away.
Hit #3
I go to the dance area and start dancing by myself in a wide open empty spot. There is one huge group of people and a few smaller groups. I’m really the only lone wolf in the whole place.
I dance for about 10 minutes and I’m feeling invisible at the moment. I start thinking about leaving and going to another bar when two girls in the big group break off from the group and start dancing right next to me. One of the girls stares at me really hard so I grab her hand and spin her awkwardly. (I’m totally the most unsmooth guy ever.)
She breaks off from her friend and initiates conversation with me. She starts flirting with me and tells me that I’m attractive. She says she is married but she wants to hook me up with one of her friends. She grabs one of her friends pulls her over to me and introduces us to each other. I try to talk to her but it’s awkward with the loud music and it never gets off the ground. A couple of minutes later she pulls over another friend and introduces her to me. I put my arm around her and try to talk to her but this friend doesn’t like me either so she ejects.
I’m just standing there by myself The I see the married girl on the couch talking to some people. She sees me and shouts, “What are you doing?” while shrugging her shoulders in an exaggerated fashion. I just shrug my shoulders back.
She comes up to me and says, “There are 14 girls you can pick from and do whatever you want with tonight. Why aren’t you doing anything?” As she is telling me this she is being very flirty and touchy-feely. I didn’t want to tell her that none of her friends were interested in me. So I say to her, “You’re the only girl here I’m interested in but your married so that’s that.” She comes closer to me and tells me that I’m really hot and she is impressed by my swagger. (I have never been told that before and I really have no swagger. That must have been an illusion caused by the pheromones.)
She gives me a very flirty kiss on my cheek dangerously close to my lips. I say to her, “The only reason I have tried anything with you is because you are married and that would be bad for all your friends to see.”
She responds, “If I wasn’t married, you would definitely get some great ass tonight.” At this point we are facing each other with our bodies touching and she is clenching my forearm with her hand. We are gazing into each other’s eyes and it is totally obvious she wants me really bad. I didn’t go in for the kiss at that moment because she is married and that would be really bad for all her friends to see. Very quickly her friends realized that things were getting out of hand and they came over, pulled her away from me, and pushed her into a guy in their group. So, she starts dancing with that guy and I make a quiet exit.
6th Bar
I didn’t get to the sixth bar until well after 2AM but it was still great. There were plenty of great looking women there. I check in my coat, go to the bathroom, and order a drink. A 6ft tall blonde girl makes some contact with me while I’m ordering the drink so I’m not sure if it was on purpose or not.
I had a couple more definite hits this bar but nothing worth writing about. I had no makeouts this evening and didn’t go home with anyone.
Instant Honesty - Makes women compliment me
I saw a post recently about whether people liked IO or IH better. I can’t find the thread right now. If I could have, I would have linked to it in this post.
In the past, I’ve tried IO when I went to bars/clubs and it didn’t do crap for me. I didn’t get approached with it and it seemed to reduce the number of hits I got greatly. So I gave up on it.
I bought instant honesty 2X and I got a free togo bottle of IH but I really didn’t use it much in the past. In my natural pheromone state it’s happened many times in the past where women have opened up to me and gave me very private details about themselves that they would not tell most people. Once I get over the initial awkwardness with a woman, it is typical for a woman to open up to me and become comfortable easily. As a result I felt like I simply did not need instant honesty.
Well, this weekend I used Instant honesty in the bars/clubs combined with none heavy mixes. I feel like IH made me much more approachable. That was the effect that IO was supposed to have but IO just didn’t work for me. IH also gets women to give me compliments. I think I heard more compliments from women this last weekend than I did any other weekend I can remember.
I have a feeling that IH is going to me a staple for me in the future. ![]()
Friday Night in the Flatiron District
Pheromones
1 Spray of The Edge to the Throat (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of The Edge to the Chest
1 Spray of The Edge to the Stomach (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of P83 (25 mcg ) to the stomach
3 Sprays of Instant Honesty to the stomach
2 Sprays of Turn Up The Heat to my sides
2 Drops of A314 to my wrists
Summary
Got approached on the dance floor by two girls and if it wasn’t for that it would have been a crappy night. Went to 5 different bars and felt somewhat invisible the whole night. No compliments from women so perhaps the compliments from the previous week with IH were a fluke. There mere a few minor IOIs that I didn’t act on as well but not many at all. Overall, not a great night.
Dance Floor Hit
I was dancing alone on the dance floor (actually dance carpet) next to the DJ booth. 2 Girls appear nearby and start dancing. They get closer and closer to me. Then all of a sudden they split apart and approach with one dancing to my left and one dancing to my right. I acknowledge by putting my arms around both of them for a few seconds. I end up dancing together with one of them for a little while. We have a little bit of a conversation on and off. A bunch of her female friends kept on appearing in the area and she introduced me to about 4 or 5 other girls in her group. She didn’t know my name so she just introduced to each of them one at a time by saying, “this is my friend”.
Eventually she grew bored of me and went away but one of her friends showed some interest in me. But she got bored of me too and eventually the whole group got bored of me and went away. My brain was frozen so I couldn’t get into a grove. I think I’m stuck in a rut.
Failed cold approach
I did one cold approach on a “mixed set” with that had 1 guy and 2 girls. I overheard something the girl said and I made a situational comment. But she just waved me off indicating that I was not wanted in the conversation and that was it. All there of them left the place a few minutes later.
Saturday Night in the LES
Pheromones
1 Spray of The Edge to the Chest (Covered with The Beat)
1 Spray of Instant Jerk To the stomach
1 Spray of P83 (25 mcg ) to the stomach
2 Sprays of Instant Honesty to the stomach
2 Sprays of Turn Up The Heat to my sides
2 Drops of A314 to my wrists
Summary
Another night that wasn’t that great. I kind of felt out of it the entire night and I really wasn’t having a good time like I usually do when I’m out and about. I got one blatant hit. I actually saw multiple women look at me through out the night and that’s rare because I’m so oblivious. I couldn’t tell if they were checking me out because they thought I was attractive or if they were thinking who’s that weird guy just standing there. I didn’t feel very confident last night.
Blatant hit
I was standing at the bar ordering a drink and a girl presses her butt against my butt as I’m ordering a drink and pushes me forward. Once I get my drink I just stand there facing them silently because my brain was frozen and I couldn’t think of anything to say. The girl initiates a conversation and we chat for a few minutes. She introduces me to the three girls she was with and she was super friendly and flirty at first. But after a few minutes the group decided they didn’t like me and just walked away without out saying anything. I was in a weird mood so I might have came off as creepy.
Cold Approaches
I did a couple of successful cold approaches at the last bar. In both cases the girl opened up nicely and was flirty and friendly. In both cases the girl gradually grew bored of me and politely excused herself.
Stuck in a Rut - cold approaches - plan to make better use of Instant Honesty
I feel like I’m stuck in a rut and in a comfort zone. I really want to do more cold approaches but I really have to be careful with this because of my age. It can be real creepy if an older guy is cold approaching a bunch of 20 something girls in a meat-market type of bar. It’s perfectly okay if the younger girl shows blatant interest in the older guy first before the older guy makes his move. Of course that’s not a cold approach.
Although I’ve studied PUA stuff in the past and I know most of the theory in the PUA community that was around 2 years ago or earlier, I’ve been trying to avoid it because it doesn’t work for me. Whenever I try to follow any sort of structure or use any sort of routine, it magnifies my social awkwardness by an order of magnitude.
I’m at my best when I flow naturally but I don’t always flow naturally. Sometimes my brain freezes and nothing comes naturally. Once in a while I know exactly what to say or do and I get laid or makeout with a girl for a while. It’s totally unpredictable when I will be on and when I will be off.
I think I’m going to try to start doing cold approaches again with a little bit of a structure. I’m going to do the following.
- Simply say hi to a group of girls.
- Make a comment or ask a question about the environment.
- If one of the girls gives me IOIs, I’ll specifically ask her a question or two about herself.
This is where the instant honesty comes in. It will encourage the girl talk about herself and give me relevant things to comment on to get the conversation going.
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After a few minutes, proposition her to come home with me and of course she will say no. But I have learned that when I do this, it makes the woman much more interested in the conversation than she was previously and makes her much less likely to get bored with me after a few minutes. I’ve actually found that almost all women like it when they are propositioned if I have rapport with her when I make the proposition.
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Let the conversation naturally flow and escalate when the moment is right. I’m pretty good at escalating when I get into a natural conversation with a girl that is going pretty well. Getting into natural conversations that last more than a few minutes is the hard part and that’s why I want to do more cold approaches.