To be less harmless and more polarizing

Mission For tonight

Just put my pheromones on and I’m about to go out. My mission is to do 20 cold approaches. I’ve haven’t been cold approaching much lately so this might be tough. I really stopped doing a lot of cold approaches almost 2 years ago but I want to get back in the grove.

Now the fun begins…

Rainy Friday Night - Failed to make cold approach quota

Pheromones
1 Spray IJ to the Stomach
1 Spray of The Edge to the chest covered with The Beat Cologne
1 Spray of 50mcg P83 Sprayed on stomach
2 Sprays of TUTH to my sides.
1 Spray of IH sprayed on stomach
1 Spray of IH Sprayed on back
2 drops of A314 on Arms

Summary
Decent night. No blatent hits and not directly approached by any women but got a few proximity IOIs that were solid. Spent most of the evening dancing in two different places. Got several IOIs from different women and the mix did not seem to scare anyone off. Perhaps the IH weakened the mix enough to prevent that.

I was stuck in my head so I didn’t make any moves on any of the girls who gave IOIs on the dance floor. I did 2 cold approaches in the course of the night and the girls were friendly but interactions never got off the ground.

Overall, this seems like a good pheromone combo.

Rainy Saturday - Chick Magnet Dancing Mix

Pheromones
1 Spray IJ to the Stomach
1 Spray of The Edge to the chest covered with The Beat Cologne
1 Spray of 50mcg P83 Sprayed on stomach
2 Sprays of TUTH to my sides.
1 Spray of IH sprayed on stomach
2 drops of A314 on Arms

Summary
This mix was the same as Friday night except I used just 1 spray of IH instead of 2 sprays. The bar I went to was an ideal place for getting hits. There was a front area where people would just hang out for short periods of time. There was another room where the bar was and there was a separate room with a small dance floor. The place got crowded but never too packed and people were circulating between the rooms. There were a ton of hot women at this place too. The fact that the place was a great venue probably helped out the pheromone results. I spent the entire evening at the same venue and I moved back and fourth between the dance floor and bar area.

Overall I got some IOIs while in the bar area sipping on my drink. I did a couple of cold approaches that were uneventful. I got a ton of hits on the dance floor area.

The way I handle dance floors is I like to pick a spot that is fairly empty and not too close to any women. That way it is easier to detect proximity IOIs when I see women gravitate towards me. The place was a too crowded to follow that strategy but the sheer number of women who pressed against me, flipped their hair at me, peeked back at me, and gravitated towards me on the dance floor last night made me conclude that the pheromone combo was definitely generating a good number of hits on the dance floor. I didn’t make any moves on any of these women because I was suffering what the PUA community calls, “The paralysis of analysis.”

I got a nice blatent hit at the end of the night when I was dancing in an empty spot and 2 women gravitated towards me. One of the girls stuck her arm between my arm and my body and sort of tangled up with me. That was the strongest IOI all night so I had to act on it. So I hold her hand as we are dancing and she immediately lifts my hand up in the air. Then she started sensually grinding against me. After a few minutes of this her friend pulls her away from me and to her group.

This group consisted of 2 hot girls and 3 guys all in their very early 20s. The girl who I was dancing with was very hot but she looked drunk - definitely too drunk to go home with. (If she had wanted to make out with me I would have done that for a few minutes.) Anyway, I turn away from the group a little bit but I causally observe the group.

One of the guys in the group started dancing with the girl and he spins her. As he spins her she lunges at me and bangs into me. :slight_smile: Eventually she broke away from the guy and started grinding against me again. She kept on placing the back of her head against my chest like she was trying to cuddle with me as we were grinding. I noticed one of the guys in her group just staring us with a sad look on his face because it was obviously she was incredibly attracted to me at that moment. I bet he had a crush on her.

As the girl was sensually grinding against me, the other girl in the group made eye contact with me and she smiled. I think she was amused by the way her friend was acting around me. The friend joined in the dance briefly and shoved her ass into me but that didn’t last very long.

The music all of a sudden stopped and the bouncers announced that the bar was closed. I did a quick analysis of the situation. She was too drunk to take home so that was not an option. The odds of making out with her was low because her male friends would probably cock block in some way. There were 200 people all about to converge on the coat check in the next few minutes so if I didn’t act fast, I would be in line for a long time waiting for my coat. I immediately left the girls without saying good bye and hurried over to the coat check. I was 4th in line and I was out of there in just a few minutes. When I got into the subway station, the train came within a minute so it was the right choice to go to the coat check right away. If I missed that one it probably would have taken 20 to 30 minutes for the next train to come.

Nice Warm March Friday Night

Pheromones
1 Spray IJ to the Stomach
1 Spray of The Edge to the chest covered with The Beat Cologne
1 Spray of 50mcg P83 Sprayed on stomach
2 Sprays of TUTH to my sides.
1 Spray of IH sprayed on stomach
2 drops of A314 on Arms

Summary
I had a good night with the above pheromone combo. Last night I didn’t go to any places that had a real dance area but I was dancing for 10 minutes at one place and I got two really strong hits. I did some cold approaching as well and that was decent with this mix. I also had one girl strike up a conversation with me at the bar. A gay guy approached me too but I hinted that I was straight and he picked up on that. Also, it was also a very long night for me. I was out in the bars from 9PM until 2AM.

Cold Approach #1
I was in a situation where this guy had struck up a conversation with me and I really wasn’t in the mood for talking to him. I excused myself and approached 2 girls in conversation just as an excuse to get out of the conversation with this guy.

I approached these two women and they seemed friendly. The guy who I was talking to followed me into the set. One of the girls walked away after a minute and the other one stuck around for a while.

I talked to her for a minute or two and stalled out but the guy who followed me into the set chatted with her for a while. At one point she turned away from him and tried to re-initiated the conversation with me but the conversation didn’t pick up. So she started talking to the other guy again. Eventually she sent the other guy away somehow and re-initiated conversation with me again. We talked for a few minutes but the conversation never really got off the ground.

This other guy that she seems to know comes by and they start chatting and get really into the conversation while I stand there awkwardly. So, I decided to make my exit. So I tap her on the shoulder and told her that it was nice meeting her. We shake hands and exchange names. She doesn’t let go of my hand for several seconds and stares into my eyes during that time. Then once I leave, she resumes the conversation with that guy. About 30 minutes later she was still talking to that guy.

Cold Approach #2
I see two girls standing there in light conversation so I walk up and approach. I just made a situational comment and that got a conversation going that lasted over a half an hour.

One of the girls was attracted to me and was flirty and touchy. Turns out that the logistics sucked in this situation. Both of the girls live in the suburbs and they drove into the city. So the odds of hooking up were very low so I didn’t try to escalate at all.

I stayed in the conversation out of inertia and her attraction to me slowly faded away. By the end of the conversation I sensed that she was no longer attracted to me very much at all but she was still very friendly and talkative so I didn’t mind.

She tells me that they are going to the LES and they had to get going. She mentioned it a few more times before they actually left. I think she was hinting that I should number close her but I saw no point in doing so. After a few minutes they said bye, and departed.

Cold Approach #3
I walk up to two girls standing there and make a situational comment. They both look at me like they don’t want to be there. Then they looked at each other and I could tell that my presence was not desired by them. So I politely excused myself and moved on.

Warm Approach #1
As I was ordering a drink at a bar, a girl next to me made contact with my arm a few times. So after I got my drink, I struck up a conversation with her. She initially showed some signs of attraction but after a couple of minutes she decided that she did not like me and she ejected.

Blatant Hit #1
I was watching highlights from some of the basket ball games on TV and a girl needed to get by. Instead of gently putting her hand on my arm, shoulder, or back like women normally do when they need to get by, she sensually rubbed by back in a very sexual manner for a couple of seconds. I moved aside to let her pass and she was attractive but I didn’t approach because I was taken off guard.

Blatant Hit #2
I saw a little dance area that had a bunch of people dancing so I picked an empty spot and started dancing in the area. Immediately two girls came closer to me like a tractor beam was pulling them in and one of them started bumping against me several times while she was dancing and gave me some very flirty eye contact. I put my hand on her shoulder, gave her a compliment, and then continued dancing as I was before. Eventually this guy came up and was dancing with her. While she was dancing with that guy, she gave me strong eye contact at least a few times.

Blatant Hit #3
As I was dancing there, I felt a girl dancing behind me rubbing her butt into my butt. So, I pressed by butt into hers a little bit and she pushed back into me. So I turn around, take her hand and spin her. For a few minutes, we both dance in each other’s proximity and she seemed interested because she intentionally made repeated physical contact with me. I held her hand a couple of times to for a few seconds at a time. But she never looked directly at me. Either she was shy or the -none was intimidating her too much. Eventually she left the dance area and sat down. That was it.

Female Approach
I ordered a drink at the bar and the female bartender was really friendly. A girl next to me initiated a conversation with me about how friendly the bartender was. Turns out she was visiting for the weekend and she is from Texas. She is staying with her friend in NYC so the logistics were not good here.

In any case we talked for about 1/2 hour and there was a really good comfort level between us. Our bodies where making physical contact with each other much of time we were talking. At one point in the conversation, she positioned herself so that she was facing me so we were facing each other for much of the conversation. She was wearing a mini-skirt and she had great legs.

At one point we were talking and she was gazing into my eyes so I slowly moved in for a kiss and she turned her face and gave me her cheek so I gave her a light kiss on the check. I tried to kiss her three more times over the course of the conversation and I’m quite sure she wanted to make out with me. But her friend was right there and we were in crowded bar. I guess that wasn’t her thing.

At one point her friend wanted to go so she told me that they had to get going. I said, “OK. Cool.” When she realized that I wasn’t going to number close her, she number closed me. I don’t know why because she lives far away and her friend is going to want to spend time with her until she leaves NYC on Sunday. Bad logistics.

Ok, first off, an amazing read. Second, what a phero-journey! You’ve come an amazingly long way from where you started. I think you found the door out of the box… Third, I want to personally thank you for the education you just gave me. I am new to this site and have just placed my first order today. If I had not read your journal, I would not know what I needed to do to find.and perfect my sweet spot. And last of all, thanks to reading this, I plan on starting my journal as soon as I get the product. The care and compassion from everyone here is resiliant! Not to mention the expertise. I will send you a link when I get started(though our situations are completely different). I look forward to seeing advice and encouragement from you on my journey!

Pheromones
1 Spray IJ to the Stomach
1 Spray of The Edge to the chest covered with The Beat Cologne
1 Spray of 50mcg P83 Sprayed on stomach
2 Sprays of TUTH to my sides.
1 Spray of IH sprayed on stomach
2 drops of A314 on Arms

Summary
This pheromone combo has turned into my standard bar/club combo. It gives me consistent hits every time I go out with it. Nothing really exciting happened last night but I got my dance floor hits as expected and one girl initiated a conversation with me.

I’m going to tweak this mix in the future and I have the following products on order:

  1. MEO-EST
  2. P93
  3. TAC
  4. EOW

I am very interested to see what happens when I add copulins to my pheromone combo.

My combo is very slightly buffered with IH right now. I want to try MEO-EST and TAC as buffers and see if there is any difference from IH.

Got Flamed

I thought we had close knit open community of people who wanted to learn how to use pheromones to make themselves more attractive or to alter the general vibe they give off.

I saw a recent posting where djandarial got flamed in his control panel on the forum under a neg rep comment. I didn’t know about that feature so I checked my comments and I got flamed very recently as well.

I would like to share my experiences within a positive & supportive community but when any community gets too big & popular, inevitably negative people will be drawn to it.

I’ll continue to experiment with pheromones in a bar/club environment and report back how people around me reacted to me with different pheromone combinations. I’m just not going to post as many details like I have in the past. I feel this is unfortunate because details give the reader a better understanding of how pheromones work.

Because I’m a sensitive guy I want to avoid negative people both in real life and in forums. If I minimize the details, there will be fewer things for negative people to latch on to.

This Journal is now closed.

I started a new journal here:

I will continue to report on my pheromone findings in this new journal albeit with fewer details.

Don’t let them get to you. I have really enjoyed reading your experiences. I do everything I can to just ignore the people who don’t ‘get’ my style of reporting and focus on the positives. :slight_smile:

Thanks. I think it will be more practical to adopt a more concise reporting style for the new journal anyway because it will be easier to go back and review results.

Where did you go? Your journal is insightful. Have you learned anything new?

I started a new journal. I was too long winded in the old Journal and I’ve tried to be more concise, focused, and to the point in my new Journal.