Too "Quick" in the sack?

There is a study out today that suggests people who are…ummm, you know…too “quick” in the sack might make really good gamers. Ouch. Makes you wonder about that professional video gamer dudes.

Gene found for premature ejaculation.

BBC NEWS | Health | Premature ejaculation gene found

very interesting read… my friend told me he can literally control it. He’s got the gift all the pornstars have… hold it until your ready… and go on command.

~Haz~

well I am not of Porn star status, but then I am only an average computer gamer.

Although put me on muscle relaxers and I can whip up on almost anyone in a computer game.
Never tried sex on muscle relaxants though.

as for sex, an X GF and I went for about 2 hours one night, we were both sore for several days after that. We had had a disagreement, thus I was toying with her and had been edging her for almost an hour. (no not a fight, but a discussion about who could hold out longer) :cool: I won, she begged first. :smiley:

excess serotonin = short and (not so) sweet
excess prolactin = “man, why isnt this standing ?”
excess dopamine = “me love you long time, baby !”

Have you found any pheros that actually make your performance last longer?

I have my suspicions on one in particular that seems to be pretty consistent with its effects on hubby’s performance but I want to get a guy’s take on this before I blurt it out and sound like a total nutjob:o

Some things can only be asked with the supposed anonymity of the internet :roll_eyes:

if you really like jackhammers, horny goats weed is my best answer (its not a phero btw :smiley: ). it also increases pleasure for the male and indirectly does for the female (there was some study done which said that HGW enhanced 100% male pleasure and 90% of their partners). take 90 mins before “activity” as quoted by the study.
as far as pheros are concerned, i have no idea, maybe some older members can advise you on this.

You are talking about a learnable skill:

How to Make Love All Night: And Drive a Woman Wild! by Barbara Keesling

The Multi-Orgasmic Man: Sexual Secrets Every Man Should Know by Mantak Chia and Douglas Abrams

You sure? I’m taking 5-htp to see if it increases my energy levels. It’s supposed to do so by increasing seotonin levels. People who suffer PE are recommended 5-htp for the same reason.

the best idea would be to do some research on this. from what you say, 5-htp seems to have a stimulatory function which is usually trigerred by production of dopamine in the body. although these supplements may increase serotonin levels marginally, this is easily offset by the much higher production of dopamine. Long term use of dopamine increasing substances are said to increase testesterone levels. Ones that i know of that fall into this category are ephedrine, HGW etc. Medicines that increase serotonin levels are prozac and most anti-depressants. anti-depressants tend to make you relaxed and tired all the time. However, HGW and ephedrine are also said to have anti-depressing effects beacuse they marginally increase serotonin levels. Their main action is to release nora-adrenaline which is adrenaline like in behaviour (the fight or flight hormone). As far as 5-htp is concerned, i have no idea but my previous claims stay the same as i have induvidually tested these substances in my body (i couldnt find any volunteers) and found that my personal experiences have been backed by research (pubmed.com is a good place to search for them).

Anyhoo, as usual A314 has made me preachy so i shall stop now.
please dont take my advice and start popping pils (leave that to me). Do your research well before taking anything.

oh yeah, just remembered - isnt 5-htp and DHEA the stuff that is supposed to increase natural pheromones ? I read one of futurists old posts where he mentioned that he had found the link between cortisol and pheromone production. If 5-htp is a stimulant and increases cortisol production then IMO it is similar to caffiene. you might want to look into that.

cheers

5HTP is very weak stuff, it wont raise serotonin much, and even then more serotonin is subjective

explains why I’m so piss poor bad at video games… :stuck_out_tongue:

I have done research before buying 5-htp. Most of the information I read said that in studies it is ever so slightly more effective than most anti-depressants without the side effects. Some people have a defficency of serotonin which can cause dperession, anxiety or just a mood dampner. 5-htp is taken to boost serotonin, infact I read it is the closest thing you can take to serotonin. I’ve just recently started taking it to see if it is a mood brightner (not that I’m down or anything)

I got that from wikipedia: Premature ejaculation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It’s interesting that 5-htp can increase natural pheromones. I hope that and caffeinie don’t fuck up my sweet spots.

5HTP isnt as effective as other antidepressants in helping depression i dont know where you got that from

it also is still uncertain what causes depression, it is true that SSRI’s work by increasing serotonin but it is also true that they only start working after a few weeks while they increase serotonine by 300% from the same moment you take them
there are a few theories as to why that happeneds, 5HTP also increases serotonin but this doesnt mean it works for the same disorders as SSRI’s or other antidepressants as often claimed by many health sites

that anxiety or depression is caused by a serotonin defience has never been proven

i havent even ever seen an anecdotal reports of it working for social anxiety, wich is what your sufferend from if i understand right?

I don’t know whether I suffer from social anxiety or whether I was just shy. I’ve seen a huge increase in confidence recently mainly due to real subliminal CDs. Subliminal Messages - Subliminal MP3 - Subliminal CD

Obviously there isn’t 1 single cause of depression. My friend has Bi polar and from what I gather that is uncurable and not caused by any inbalance in the brain. However I’m sure some mild cases of depression are caused by a lack of serotonin. Why would the increase in serotonin work differently if caused by an antideprresant or by 5-htp?

serotonin will cure depression alright but it will not give you more energy. i did some limited research on this and i found that the only sites which claim that 5-htp increases energy are the ones that sell them. 5-htp is probably very effective as an anti-depressant but not so much as an energy booster (my experience tells me that serotonin actually reduces energy levels). also, i hope you are aware that there are many restrictions while taking SSRI’s (like 5-htp) , one of which is abstinence from alcohol.

To be honest the reason I bought 5-htp is because I suspect I may have SAD. I get a little apathetic and loose motivation when the nights start getting darker earlier and also when I’m under flurorecent lights for long periods. These things seem to drain me of energy and I’d read somewhere that 5-htp may help so I thought why not give it a go because there seems to be no side effects from what I’ve read. So far I’ve only been taking them for a week and I’ve noticed my mood is ever so slightly brighter but that could be coincidence.

I hadn’t heard that I should avoid alcohol, is that true? 5-htp is naturally occuring in turkey and cheese and people regulary eat these things with alcohol.

I’m a little worried now because I thought this 5-htp was perfectly safe but now I really don’t want to turn into someone with premature ejeculation (something I read 5-htp caused the opposite off) and an intolerance to alcohol.

My mother has SAD pretty bad, we found that replacing the lights in her bathroom and kitchen (where she spends a good portion of her morning, getting started) helped as much as anything.

A couple of full spectrum compact florescent bulbs were not cheap but they made a big difference-
Naturallighting.com - Natural Full Spectrum Lighting[title]

Since going on TUTH and IH, I have had a tough time keeping things reasonably short. After an hour, I get a bit frustrated. Not sure if it’s the pheros, my head, or the new girls, but you’re welcome to try it.

If I keep going into work with a sore back, people are going to start questioning… :slight_smile:

because SSRI dont work by increasing serotonin, the increase in serotonin is apparant after an hour you take the drug, but SSRI’s only start working after a few weeks, a possible explanation is not the increase in serotonin but this:
Antidepressants Grow New Brain Cells

there also is an antidepressant that works by REDUCING the ammount of serotonin, its called tianeptine :slight_smile:

i have done alot of research on social anxiety disorder, and they only meds that seem to effective for it are

Benzo’s (like klonopin)
Solian or amisulpride in a low dose
GHB (wich is a recreational drug so this can only be used once and a while)
opiates (same thing)
Nardil, the gold standard in social anxiety, it requeres a special diet tough but it seems to be VERY effective
Tramadol, OTC in the us can be used a little more often but it can be addicting
Lyrica, also recommend by alot of ppl

5htp and SSRI’s are very weak for social anxiety and only slightly effective for a small ammount of ppl

i also suffer from social anxiety disorder and the thing that saved my life was taking MDMA weekly, it may not be the healthiest way but it saved my life, i still suffer from anxiety in the week when i dont take it but it improved dramatically

pm me for more info, i know alot about the subject :slight_smile: