I’ve alread been welcomed by Steve O (thanks), and spent some time reading some great and helpful posts by bosshank and visionary,amongst others. I look forward making my first order from Smartmones, when the $25 arrive!
I’m a middle-aged guy - 44 - so probably not producing a massive amount of pheromones anymore, but I do work out everyday and like to think I can pass for mid to late thirties.
I’m due to coming out of a longterm hetero relationship, and am looking for that extra bit of help in the dating game, which I am now back in.
If I were to buy three things, from what I’ve read a good threesome to mix and match for someone like me would be:
Instant shine - make me seem a little younger and more vibrant
Hello and welcome to the forum! As gone with the wind said, we need to know a few more things before making any suggestions. What is your personality like? Where will you use the mones and what exactly would you like to accomplish with them?
Look forward to hearing from you..
Hi all - many thanks to Gone with the Wind, Future77, and JamesBonded for replying so quickly to my first post! All your comments are welcome…
First - a little aside to Gone with the Wind - I didn’t expect to find some quoting the Prajna Paramita Sutras (Buddhist Perfection of Wisdom Scriptures) on here. If you are on the Bodhisattva path - best wishes!
Anyway to answer your very pertinent questions, I’ll say a little about myself. Like I said, I’ll be dating again soon, after ten years out of the game, and am feeling a bit insecure about it. I used (up to age 35) to be able to attract pretty young intelligent women, age 20 - 30, but I have to be more realistic and say I’m aiming for, if I’ve very lucky, very late twenties to late thirties. I hope to meet a life partner in the next two or so years, but am happy to have so fun in the meantime. I hope to get most of my dates though the internet so they will already be some rapport and interest when we first meet, but I’m also open to meetings in bookstores, malls etc. I’m a bit mature now for the clubbing scene.
Personality wise, I used to be more extroverted and upbeat, and regarded as quite charismatic and a bit of a leader, but my work, which is psychotherapy, has made me more introverted and serious in outlook and demeanour, and also seems to have made my default way of relating to women be a caring or intellectual mode rather than a romantic,sexual, or flirtatious one. People trust me pretty easily, and open up to me quickly too, but I think my caring nature is also sometimes misinterpreted as weakness or softness. Plus, as I said, I’m a bit anxious about getting back to dating.
I think my serious demeanour is not helped by my physical presence, in terms of approachability. I could pretty much double - I’m told - for Liam Neeson, so I’m tall/broad, and not that bad looking.
I hope I’m making myself clear about what I hope to have enhanced by the pheromones -I want to feel a bit more confident, have a more youthful and upbeat vibe, and be able to project the sexual side of my nature more, which in my work is obviously out of place.
A prescription for dating, with contact already made, and one for ‘cruising’, in malls shops etc, would be really appreciated.
Finally, a couple of quick question - how long do the products last - not on you, but in terms of shelf life/sell by date. ALso, can any of them be destroyed by applying cologne over them. I would have thought that pheromones are quite fragile molecules..?
ANd most important of all- thanks in advance for any replies to the above
I’ve come to suspect that we are all on the same path, but some are more aware of where it is going than others. Best wishes to you also!
First of all, understand that a mature, responsible, financialy independent male is a hot commodity on the market. You actually can set your sights where you want to and have a high probability of success. However, you should think carefully about where you want to set your sights. Although for instance an 18 year old may seem incredibly physically attractive, at that age the personality is still evolving and she may be quite a different person in 2 years, or even six months. At your age the personality is generally more stable, leaving you the one most likely to be hurt by changes. You probably understand this from your profession, but sometimes it is hard to connect the rational faculties to the passionate ones.
There are 2 types of products here. 1rst are commercial prducts which have been well tested and whose range of effects are well known (by us here if not the academic community). These are the ones I’ll be recommending in this post. The second type is experimental molecules and compounds we are trying to get a handle on. I’m not going to tell you about the 2nd type here, but if the commercial products click with you and you see value in them I’m betting that you will want to jump on board with us and test some of the experimental products too. Many show much greater promise than the readily availble commercial products. You may have a professional interest in this new exploration also.
You should be aware of anone. This chemical will give a raw, sexual edge to your aura. Natural production is generially high in young men, delcining with age. Many women find it attractive when ovulating. It may make them bitchy at other times, although they may still fid it attractive. High doses may stimulate agression in other men. High doses may make everyone ignore you. We call this “ghosting.” Generally men your age don’t see as much of the negative effects as young men do. Some think this is because a young man’s natural production tips the total dose higher. I personally attribute it to cultural factors. Young men are recognised as dangerous in almost every society, and a high anone signature lets everyone know that they are ready to rape and pillage. We often recommend buffering anone with other pheromones to tone down the aggressive edge.
For you, anone could add a bit of an agressive, sexual edge that will complement your caring, laid back characteristics.
Products-
Tuth - pure unbuffered anone
Ammo - anone buffered with some other pheromones to tone down the aggression. Lots of young guys use this as a stand alone. At your age you may want to consider using this with tuth.
You may also want to consider testing rone. IG is based on this pheromone. It gives a masculine vibration that is not in-your-face sexual. If you want to consider this please look at the following threads to get an idea about possible ranges of effects.
This is great but you will need to be careful of intimidating people, especially if you supplement with anone. Personality alone can help buffer the intimidation effect, and that might be the best in your case. Just remember that it is an issue. If you want to increase approachability with chemicals consider nol. There are 2 comercial products here that could help. IH and IO. They have differing ratios of the alpha and beta isomers and slightly different flavors.
For the youthful and upbeat vibe try ishine. This is based on a trade-secret molecule that we call here TAA.
You should test your products one at a time, starting with low doses and working up to understand the range of effects on you. Then you will be able to develop your own mixe for particular situations.
One standard though, tuth (anone) can be used in a dating situation in a special way. Once rapport has been established and you are alone in a potentially intimate situation the dosage can be gradually increased one spray at a time. The reception to this is very diffferent than spraying it all on yourself at once and then approaching someone.
Shelf life seems to be indefinite. Don’t leave them in the hot sun or light, but other than that they’re pretty robust. Cologne doesn’t hurt them. In fact, it’s almost a requirement with raw pheromones as the only time we smell them in today’s world is in association with excrement. This has caused many moderns to form some unnatural associations with the smell of pheromones. Best to cover their scents. The commercial products already have some cover scents in them.
One request. If you try any of these out please come back and tell us about your experiences with them.
Thanks for the warm welcome - it’s really appreciated!
I’ve already read a fair few of your posts, and learned an awful lot in the process.
I’m particularly interested in you olfactory perception, as you are a woman. I therefore read with interest your decription of Instant Openess as being ‘like sweaty feet’, along with your endorsement of the great smells of some of the other products. I’m not put off, but I am refining my first order: currently it is:
Ammo - in neroli oil base (as I prefer my own cologne - I use Pie(the greek letter) by Givenchy
Instant Shine - seems you can’t go wrong with this…
Turn Up the Heat - being mid forties I need this…
Possibly:
A314 - but I wish it came unscented, as some posters have said Instant Gentleman - not sure about this one - I’m a gentleman already
Instant OPenness - if I can get past the feet…
You are right of course: we are all on the path, whether consciously or otherwise.
Many thanks for the time and attention you put into your reply to my initial post, and for answering all my questions clearly and concisely. And I will post when I get my first order, and start to experiment in the field…
As I’ve just written to Tisha, based on your advice and what I’ve read elsewhere my initial order looks like this so far:
Ammo - in neroli oil base (as I prefer my own cologne - I use Pie(the greek letter) by Givenchy
InstantShine - seems you can’t go wrong with this… Turn Up the Heat - being mid forties I need this.. as you say..
Possibly: A314 - but I wish it came unscented, as some posters have said Instant Gentleman - not sure about this one - I’m a gentleman already Instant OPenness - if I can get past the feet…
As you can see, I’m not sure about IG or IO. I read the threads you recommended, and what is clear, and I suppose this is the ‘truth’ that emerges in so many discussions in the forums, is that one’s individual response is precisely that - individual and idiosyncratic, just as is one’s like or dislike for the smell of ammo, or IO.
As for the experimental products, I think I’ll get a handle on the above before I start messing around with the experts! I do like to go into things deeply, but need a good deal of experience under my belt first…
SO, thanks again, I just hope order Ammo in oil base doesn’t hold it up too long..
He must be wearing IO because I think that’s the most I ever saw him write in one post LOL… Just teasing (((GW))) 