So I decided to give this journal thing a try however I’m a very private and reserve person so I probably won’t get into as much detail as some of you guys get into but I’ll use this thread to share my opinion, theories, and other stuff on products.
The first Journal entry will come shortly.
The main reason why I wanted to make this journal is to kind of jot down which products and mixes actually work for me so here goes.
a314 - I definitely see an effect from this I’ve used it solo 1-3 sprays and so far I’ve been liking it solo more then in mixes. I do get respected more while I’m on this product and I seem to get both older and younger ladies attention.
Side effects - At the end of the day I sometimes get a bad headache when I wear this product. Also, at work I noticed some people would try to challenge me when they get a chance(like they’llh ave a retort to things I say or do and have a general dickish behavior) … the people that do this are people I’ve known before using the product and my theory is that they probably still remember my pheromones without the product and still want to treat me the same way as before… however they wouldn’t be dicks or challenge me when I didn’t wear the product so I’m not sure how acurate that theory would be.
One thing I did notice about that situation is that I would stand my ground when they do develop that general dickish behavior and after I did that those people began to treat me like everyone else does when I’m on a314
IG - I don’t think this one works for me. I don’t really notice any one treating me like a gentleman and I’d probably get the same amount of attention from ladies that I do without the product.
Side Effect - Their is one side effect that I didn’t notice until today since I used IG solo but it has happened multiple times when I used IG in mixes but when I use IG I seem to get really drowsy and sleepy and introverted the first hour or 2 since I sprayed it then after the 2nd hour I go back to normal. I wonder if any one else seems to have this problem.
Ammo - I’ve yet to used ammo solo however in mixes I’m pretty sure I’ve noticed it work on the attraction level. I’ve only used it twice and the reason why is because I used it once at work and it kind of made co-workers and even a female boss of mine act very unprofessional. Example - she’d tell me that she thinks a co-worker has a crush on me… and then later that day showed me a picture of her daughter and asked if I think her daughter is pretty(her daughter happens to be my age). The mix that I used that day was A314, IG on the neck and Ammo on the wrist. I might give it a try at work again with a314 however if it continues to produce that kind of scenario then I’ll leave ammo strictly for recreational use
a314 + IG - Doesn’t seem work for me. I’ve used this mix about 3 times and one time i did single spray of each and the other 2 times I did double sprays of each on the neck. I don’t get treated like an alpha but I Don’t get disrespected either and it’s not ghosting either because people still acknowledge me… it’s more like no noticeable behavioral changes at all from other people. I might still continue to use this mix… maybe do 2 sprays of a314 and just one of IG
but my IG is running low and I’m not sure If it’s a product that I really care to re-up on.
A314 +IH - Now I got 2 different reactions from this mix… one of them happened years ago when I first bought androtics product. While not exactly fallout I’ve noticed IOI from very gorgeous ladies and these IOI were not your typical one… they were over the top IOI. I was expecting to have this situation happen again years later when I became an androtics customer once again but it doesn’t seem like I can repeat the same situation that happened all those years ago… when I use this mix now it just seems like a314 solo but with more attention from the ladies but not as much as when I had ammo in the mix. I really wish I can replicate what had happened all those years ago… I ordered some p74 hopefully that could do it.
IS - it’s hard to tell how this works for me… I’ve only used it in mixes with other products and I can’t really tell much of a difference. I’ll use it some more and try to pay more attention to the difference between a314 solo and a314 with IS or ammo solo and ammo with IS.
I also have CTTM oil, a314 oil, and p74 on the process of being delivered so I hope to try those out soon. Was thinking of getting a sexual product like TUTH or IJ… possibly Tac since I read that TAC and TUTH mix well for it. My current goal is to learn more about the MX’s, Putative mones, and experimones so I could find the products that best work for me.
Here is a theory I’ve kind of developed about mones and I’ll try not to sound pretentious or like a prick as I talk about this theory but considering the subject matter it will probably come across that way.
However, my theory is that I think intelligence level effects how someone reacts to mones. I’m sure something like this has been talked about in the past but I want to talk about it a bit in my journal.
In my line of work I meet alot of people and some of those people aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed… this goes for some co-workers as well. I feel like when I interact with those people they seem to react differently then the average person to the mones I’m wearing. If I wear a314… most people kind of watch what they say around me like they don’t want me to think less of them or they don’t want to say something that will rub me the wrong way… the dumber people, since I lack a better term, however don’t really seem to care as much. Picking up social cues is an aspect of intelligence in my opinion so it is possible that those people have trouble understanding that this is how they are suppose to act to this mone or that mone.
I’m going to take a look at the theories sub section and see if anyone else has talked about this, if not I’ll probably post my own if I can find more situations that would back this theory.
A314 and IG have the same main pheromone and combining them like that might not be a good idea. Since they have the same main pheromone the steering mones are what cause them to have different effects, ones more alpha and the other more gentleman so combining them would kind of be like cancelling them out a bit, IMO.
When I test I generally test at various stores so I can have the biggest range of subjects to test a mix on. On a couple of occasions it seemed to me that the subjects in the stores that were in the more wealthier parts of town resulted in much better hits than the subjects at the stores in the poorer sides of town. There could be something to it but I’m not sure.
Interesting, I’ve read that a314 and IG is a good mix don’t remember who wrote it though so I decided to try it out. It’s crazy how some mix work for some and not for others that kind of throws everything into a chaotic loop.
Any tips on how to create that a314 + IH situation that happened. I mean I don’t want to get specific with it but the day I used a314 IH all those years ago I could probably compare to that scene in ocean’s thirteen 
Using it now it doesn’t come anywhere close to that. I bought p74 which I heard might help recreate that day hopefully it does… I hope to hear what your opinion is since you seem to be very knowledgeable with this stuff.
Actually I’ve had a similar situation where I wore a great mix and years later it didn’t seem to work again. It turned out there were a few factors at play. My diet was different, I wore a certain cologne with it the first time that years later I didn’t. Once I dialed these back in it worked again.
But if you think all is still the same, I’d say there are probably two good options. P79 is said to enhance a mix so maybe you can try that. Or it could be that you have less Androstenone production because you’re older so maybe lure Androstenone or TUTH would help.
I’ve been thinking of getting IJ or TUTH aswell as TAC in my next purchase. Which one would you recommend? To me it seems like TUTH is more versatile then IJ and can be used in more situations then IJ can.
Hey, you have a Journal! 
Nice run so far. I bet this’ll develop into one of those good to read journals. I agree with Jdub. Other factors are at play here, that’s why we always remind those who are returning phero-users to start from the beginning : the sweetspot hunt. Because it’s hard for us to speculate on what’s amiss, since we basically don’t know you personally, the best step is to really begin at the phero-journey starting point: the sweetspot hunt.
Only then you will come to the same realization Jdub had, as to what is making your former fave application seem not to work, and what’s the new phero-applications that works pretty well for the current you.
Phero journey is a never ending testing. Just like life.
Subscribing!
I am tuned in also! Great start and no worries about being reserved. Just have fun with it and be you nothing more or less. If you ever need any help or have questions you can post here or even send me a PM and I will respond.
Update -
My current temporary goal is to figure out if I can recreate that situation I had with A314 and IH all those years ago. As I read the forums I heard those 2 mix well with p74 and create a sort of similar effect and as per JDubs advice I’ll probably order some TUTH or IJ(leaning more towards the TUTH but IJ sounds pretty neat too). I’ll let you know if I am ever able to get the same IOI/hits I did that night.
Here’s something I remembered though… I might have had mx297 in that mix that night. I bought the newbie pack and was testing out mixes and I believe I might have had a 3rd mone in that mix and mx297 sounds familiar however I am not 100 percent sure mx297 was the third mone.
What would be your goals with A314/IH? I ask because there maybe better options. The A314/IH is a killer mix and in fact my base mix is A314/IH/P96 is usually my base mix, sometimes I swap out the P74 if I don’t want the ladies hitting on me(I am married).
Definitely P74 and TAC is another one to look into if you go with the TUTH or IJ.
Yeah I already have p74 coming on the way. Was looking into TAC… I heard it’s good for comfort like p74 is but it’s also sexual too.
So I Just got my order and I was curious to how the stealth fragrance worked so I sprayed some p74 it’s almost my bed time so I’m not intending to use it I’m only intending to smell and I love that smell…
I was expecting it to be unfragranced and just smell the actual pheromones… which I’ve been told smells pretty bad but it wasn’t like that. It smelled like actual cologne/aftershave and it was a pretty good smell too. Probably better then the akuto smell because while I like the way that akuto smells it’s just too strong IMO.
So today I decided to use IG and Ammo for a casual setting. My previous opinion on IG was that when I use it alone or in mix it just wouldn’t work, if I got IOI it was standard IOI’s that I would probably get without the mones too and most people wouldn’t really treat me like a gentleman when mixed with other stuff I felt like the IG would nullify the other stuff that would normally work for me. Today was a bit different and I think the IG and Ammo actually worked well today… I got a standard amount of IOI but the IOI’s were more blatant and just different then ones I’d get without mones so while it didn’t really increase it did change the IOIs to the point where I noticed it was different.
By different IOI what I mean is Ive had several girls that I was having conversations with kind of lose their train of thought and start speaking nonsense after a while just to keep the conversation going. They would increasingly get nervous like they don’t want to say something wrong around me. I didn’t work a full shift but I stopped by work to check up on something and had a conversation with a client their too and I asked her if she wanted us to do a specific task for her which apparently one of my co-workers already did… so she told me she didn’t need it but in an apologetic tone like it was a burden on me that she’s turning down my offer and she wants me to forgive her.
Speaking of work and clients. I might have used a mix in the past that might have left some imprinting however I don’t remember which mix I used. The reason why I headed over to work on my day off was because a client was asking that I be the specific one that works on something and I went to work to kind of jot down what she wanted so I could work on it when I get the chance. when I spoke to her on the phone it was obvious that she didn’t really need me to do anything for her specifically and was just trying to have a reason to speak to me. She kind of hints at doing stuff non business related outside of work too however the problem with this situation is that the lady in question is a married women about 20-30 years older then I am.
I think I’m going to tone down on the attraction products when I make a work mix because of this.
What I would do if you want to tone down the hits at work is use your P74 with your Ammo and IG. When there was a A314 drought I was using Ammo as my base pheromone and ran into the same problem you did when I used Ammo/P96 combo.
When I switched the P96 for P74 it was very useable for work with no issues with the women. The key I have found is find the balance of P74 to the Ammo as the P74 does soften it a little, but this is kind of what you want just not to over soften the Ammo to much.
Sounds like you are a granny magnet to! Maybe I will start a little group called the granny snatcher’s 
Thanks Von!!!
After a while I was losing hope on p96 which a lot of you were recommending in your journals and around the forums, I finally think I figured out my sweet spot. I would usually use 15mcg max. It wasn’t having the effects many of you were mentioning in my honest opinion. my report is that I need to use at least 30mcg for it too give me the effects that many people report on and I definitely was successful wearing that much combined with 1 spray of TUTH, 2 spray of IG and 1 drop of a314.
What could this mean about my phero signature that I need to use that much? Anyone have any input… perhaps I could figure out what my sweet spot is for every other mone now.
With P96 I have found at the lower dose range like 10MCG it has more a beautifying effect on people where it makes everything more good looking and situations that might seem ugly kind of more ok and not so bad (this is what I got out of it anyway at this dose). Dose also seem to make others in a good mood to and have much more sympathy for things in life. At 50 MCG it is more a straight hardcore emotional connection with others and is more nagging on this level than anything else. Right at about 20-30MCG is where I find a balance of these 2. This is when using solo with no other mones.
A typical use for me with this one is I use 2.5MCG TUTH and 2 drops A314 REV 32 for a work mix and I use 15MCG of P96 to help ground my TUTH and A314 and it helps them both to work together much better. The problem is the P96 can really turn the A314 into a fallout mix especially with older women.
I believe why you had to use the 30MCG of the P96 is because of the very Enone and Erone from the TUTH, IG, and A314 you used. What I would do is cut back on the dose and maybe either eliminate one of those products to simplify things and at 24 that seems a very heavy mix. I would try that and see what you get.
I’ve used p96 with each of the mones in that mix alone and never got the desired effects I was looking for. It wasn’t until I upped it up to like 30 mcg that I finaly noticed p96 doing it’s thing.
I typically use 20-30MCG myself is where it is for me to so no worries as this sounds pretty normal. I seem to have built a tolerance to this one where right at 7.5-10MCG is where I would start feeling the effect it now takes right at 12.5-15MCG to start feeling it.
used the same mix again and this time it was the complete opposite. borderline disaster. I sent you more information about it in a private message Justintime. Was wondering if you could figure out what went wrong and why the mix had a good and bad results with the same girl.