Trying to find a Mix worth using for clubs

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PUA friends. I’m having real trouble with my night game, I’ve been gaming for 2 years, and NEVER got laid from a club or a bar. And I hit on at least 3-10 girls a week.

Day game’s a lot different and had instant pulls of the street, I feel it well get to a advanced level this year.

I think i’m properly to chilled out and not social enough for clubs. I do a day game approach that is solid, the same direct approach gets me shit results in clubs.

In the last 5months or so. I have experimented with pheromones from this thread but really having trouble finding a mix worth using in clubs/bars.

When I wear ammo, girls defiantly notice me and try and tease me from a distance. And “Accidentally” rub themselves on me when they pass by, but when i open there cold. I find that I get strong ioi’s from girls who already have bf’s with ammo on.

I get ioi’s with ammo, but there superficial as I said above they don’t help me game, it makes it harder, its like I sacrifice a good interaction for just ioi’s instead.

Next time I might try a ammo/ih mix only, to see if I can make it more genuine? I always wear IS with ammo should I cut that out? is that what makes it superficial.

With 2 drops a314 2 sprays ammo, I notice that if I approach I will get shit tested hard, and rejected quickly. But this is my most solid mix so far because if I can meet a girl were I didn’t have to cold approach it works wonders! on woman a lot older than me. (but I don’t want older woman anymore) This is what confuses me, if I cold approach in the daytime with a314 its noticeably smooth and very good. opposite in a club.

But again I want younger woman 18-23 not 25+ I just used it because I thought it was funny getting girls that used to never look at me haha.

I cant find anything good for younger girls!!!
ammo still gets ioi’s from them but dosn’t help a interaction.

IO makes a good interaction, but im not hearing from them after they give me there number with out me asking? To social?

I have noticeably better social interactions with 1 or 2 sprays IH 2 spray IS But ill spend al night talking to my guy mates and not even be bothered hitting on girls.

What’s some good mixes I can try

I have:

Ammo
A314
IS
Instant gentleman
Instant openness (Good self affects, better than is) but havnt used much
Instant honesty

p74 (never had romance with it, but can stop me getting bitch shields that I get from other mones)

p83 (good with a girl thats in bed, counter productive at clubs unless I want random drunk girls kissing me or ginding on me, but then everyone in the club is the same and I lost the girl to a better looking guy, Fun to use though because just 5mcg is so potent on me)

p75 (barely used, but I cant mix it with a314)

p102 (no longer use because it makes me to introverted) p102/p83 can be good for dates though because you can create a intimate bubble just you and her. I almost had sex in public with p102 because we both forgot we were in public that’s how strong the bubble is.

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MX297 is what you need for club game my friend! Combine 1-2 sprays with your sweet spot Ammo dosage or 2,5 mcg P75 and it should be golden for you.

No shit tests like with A314 at all. This is a friendly, non-aggressive social alpha mix.

Cold approaches will go smoothly. Actually, girls will probably approach you.

Too chilled and not social enough in clubs you say? I had the same problem. Self-effects from MX297 give me big social confidence boost. I really WANT to talk to people, and people also want to talk to you.

Mx297 is the best party mix out there. It gives you a celebrity vibe and works very well with younger college girls. Just look up some report on the forum. Wearing this provides me with instant social proof.

They will remember you and will return your calls if you number closed them.

Just add some none (Ammo/TUTH) or P75 to help with kiss/f-closing.

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Also: I think Ammo/IS is actually working well for you judging by what you’re saying. You just have to change your game a bit.

Clubs are not the place for too much interaction. With day game this works… but in clubs you need to capitalize on the superficial IOIs by escalating faster…

Just my 2 cents.

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Hi sillysilly,

Himeros gave some solid advice, I would try that as well. I can relate to your observations, most are spot on, usually any mix works on 25+ women but I have a hard time as well with younger women.

I find usually a lot of socials is a must, so based on the products you currently have I would try 2-3 sprays AMMO, 2 sprays IS, 1 spray IG, 2 sprays IO, 1 spray IH, 5mcg P74, 2.5mcg P75

When you find the girl that responds well, the key to getting laid is leading and not waiting for her to make the decisions.

Hope that helps.

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I agree with the above, you have a great set of interaction/bonding pheros but they are not at all club-centric for your age range.

If you want to stick to what you have, variations on the Ammo/IS theme would be my suggestion as well but if you get more, most certainly consider MX297 and some TUTH.

Then try MX297/TUTH and TUTH/IO/IS or TUTH/IG/IS, which are spot-on mixes for younger folk in clubs. :slight_smile:

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Another recommendation for MX297 here. Combine with MX353, Dirty Primitive, or Evolve for best results. The advice you’ve been given here is more than enough to set you on track, so I’ll say no more about this combo.

If you’re after young Latin chicks though, nothing can top high-none + high-dose P75 + TAC. Take a look at my recent posts in the women’s section for more on this one. Should work equally as well on black women and other high-none responders. Not my target demographics, so I haven’t had the chance to test it on other races yet. Works well on young white women too, but it’s nowhere near the level of the first combo mentioned.

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Holy smokes, what was the dosage for this?

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Thanks for the advise everyone! I’m trying to read a bit about them now and it sounds like the results of MX297 is similar to p74? - buddy buddy, social, anti bitch shield. but is 297 better to use for pickup/one night stands? why is that? Should I try use p74 as a base for night game, I notice that I become disinterested in sex when I wear p74. Its like the opposite to none, can they help each other or do they cancel each other out. These 2 mixes a very expensive! (MX297 MX353) I don’t know if I can justify that much for one bottle, Is it really that good?

What is meo-est like?

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I had 5mcg p102, 10mcg p83, 1 spray IH 1 spray ammo (https://pheromonelabs.com/)

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MEO-EST is incredibly romantic. Young, child-like, lovey-dovey type crush effect. More romantic than any single molecule I’ve ever used. It’s also beta when used alone. You are seen as weak, too fragile to complete the most simple of tasks. The way you are treated when using solo requires an alpha mix in conjunction. It’s useless using in clubs, but around a crush or potential lover, it’s seriously powerful stuff.

Yes, MX297 and MX353 are absolutely worth it. They’re expensive, but nothing does quite what these two can do. If you can afford it, definitely go ahead and spring for it.

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I just read on here quoting tisha23

That it comes from horse urine, and could be dangerous to use, and “what they make Estrogen replacement drugs out of” kind of put me of haha?

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The danger only comes from ingesting the substance or allowing too much to absorb through the skin over a long period of time. There have only been reports of weight gain from MEO-EST usage as a pheromone. By avoiding skin contact and/or mixing it up as an oil, you avoid most potential downfalls while reaping all of the benefits. The final problem is solved by combining with an alpha mix. Many were much less cautious than us with this substance, using somewhat recklessly over long periods, yet there is not a single report of cancer caused by external use. I won’t recommend that you do or do not take it, but I can tell you the guidelines I’ve posted here will allow you to avoid any damage to your health caused by MEO-EST in the short term. And just FYI, it’ll take A TON of absorption from MEO-EST in order to cause cancer. As a pheromone, it’s made out to be far more dangerous than it really is. Just don’t lick the app points.

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ok so p130 is also another solid product, similar to mx297? or not as good, what

What’s the difference between a p74/p130 mix to mx297

is mx297 just something to wear in nightclubs? is it good for daygame, or dates?

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P74 and MX297 are in no way similar - P74 is indeed you comforting, close best-friend/boyfriend type phero, whilst MX297 is your full-on highly social/engaging “life and soul of the party” mix. MX297/TUTH has always been an excellent club mix for me but P74 is in a different realm for professional, fallout, status and deep-bonding mixes. It a club setting, I would only use alongside honking sexuals like NPA, TUTH or to soften potentially severe status/sexual mixes like A314/TUTH around more mature women.

What doses of P74 have you been wearing? Keeping it fairly low in any mix (other than professional), 30mcg and below seems to me a good idea to offset its potential negatives

MEO-Est is interesting but for various reasons, incl those above, I’m not planning to replace my bottle. A1, P74/IH, P114, IH/IS in mixes can all be perfectly usable alternatives, although not always club mixes, which usually need to be more blunt-instrument style! :slight_smile:

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Again, P130 and MX297 are very different. P130, is a useful light/feelgood and mildly disinhibiting single molecule, whereas MX297 is a much more well rounded social mix.

The main usefulness of P130 I’ve found is that it makes Androstenone much more acceptable around younger women - sometimes surprisingly young, so its best use would be in the likes of club mixes for a younger guy. I would tend to avoid it with MX297 as it already has a lot of comfort/disinhibition and moderating properties and because, MX297’s character is more easily wrecked by an unsuitable addition than many other pheros/products.

MX297 is quite wearable in daytime and on dates but the main thing here is to make it count in a fun/social manner - don’t wear it for serious, high-status situations or for deep heart-to-hearts!

I reckon P130/P74 would be a very useful combo around younger women but I’d have a fairly prominent sexual in there as well to offset P74’s tendency to best-friendliness.

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ok cool ordered

mx297
p130
tuth

Thank you everyone, I hope these additions will help me in clubs.

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shit,people, you forgot to mention to him ammo summer blue 2012 or whatever the fuck they call it.

…iiiiiiiii would probably lick you all over wearing the stuff you ordered anyway fwiw…
BUT TAKE IT EASY ON THE TUTH, MMKKAY??

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Summer Ammo is great but maybe a bit lightweight for clubs - Unless you boost it with some TUTH or P75.

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p130 is what is in summer ammo right?

today I was going to test p130 10mcg 1 ammo 1 a314 for day game

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Correct, though I wouldn’t be surprised if other molecules were included in there as well. TAA, perhaps?