I used to be a heavy phero adict having bought nearly every single well known phero from Androtics but since a couple of months I quit because of the cost and constant micromanagment about how I smell when on dates.
I chucked almost all pheromones exept Ammo (because its an awsome collogne) and Turn up the Heat. Im keeping TUTH because every single time I do a little upper lip dab of it on, girls almost attack me when kissing with then;P.
The problem is that I got lip balm, a collogne and now also TUTH with on every single date which is quite a lot of stuff and also distracting when dating.
The sollution I just came across is making my own lip balm!
The advantages are:
Being a more awesome kisser
The phero’s only kick in when kissing so she is not flipping out (which sometimes happens when just wearing loads of it, among other undesired results).
And lastly there is no thinking required on the date + not having a weard blue bottle with me all the time.
The formula to do this is:
Mix an existing 5ml jar of lip balm (for example the lemon flavored one from the bodyshop) with a bit of TUTH. Put the jar in a glass of boiling water and stir it. Then when it is drying stir it again.
Anyone with suggestions or comments on the topic please leave a message!
Chemicals not designed for injestion are being put on your lips, that might not be a good idea. What would microwaving do to the molecules, would the ingredients in the vaseline prevent diffusion, even in a EO mixture.
Allright I tried it right now.
Mixt it, put on the mix but it seems the pheromone part of the mix keeps lingering in my mouth long after the lip balm stops tasting like anything.
Thus I conclude that when kissing a girl she is going to be like:
Great kiss… WTF did you put on you lips cause I keep getting turned on--;! and it tastes not that good eather--’
So that kind of ends the TUTH lip balm idea. So to conclude its not a good plan.
Or if Androtics brings out a safe matching Phero lip balm to match there collogne;P At which point I would buy it in bulk.
But your sweat also doesn’t have SD alcohol in it, fragrance, and its a synthetic chemical. You don’t know what kind of damages that can do to your body, and quite frankly, irresponsible to expose someone to it.
Interesting. I have thought about this recently also. so what does lip balm currently have in it? I use burt’s bees right now which is suppose to be really safe, but what about the other stuff out there? Is it all that safe?
BAD idea! Microwaving will destroy the molecules. Ingesting synthetic chemicals, SD38 and other unknown variables = very bad advice. Not the type of research that you would want to do. If you are looking to hurt yourself that’s one thing, but just like P51 mentioned, using it on others is irresponsible. Not sure Androtics would be willing to do business with that type of individual. I’m glad you decided to NOT do it.
That sounds interesting, so there is already a product out there that has it integrated.
I just don’t feel safe heating and mixing random chemicals together.. plus it does not taste that good.
Not sure about after heating it up but when I wear Tuth, girls go for the app point… Like they will kiss the exact spot (on my neck) where I applied and just leave crazy hickeys. Doesn’t that mean they’re ingesting pheros?
Yes, but you’re putting a concentrated amount on your lips, you don’t know reactions, what direct applications would do, what direct ingestion would do. There is a difference when its dried and evaporated and used for the intended purpose rather than mixing and not knowing the content in the medium to which it was applied.
You do not get affected by the pheromones by osmosis or ingestion. (at least, not the way you intend. I suppose ingesting chemicals DOES affect you, but you know what I mean.)
They work using olfactory. Its the basis of pheromones. Its their nature.
While lip balms are certainly not out of the question for a technology in this field, none of our currently products should ever be ingested or should you put somebody in the position to ingest them. Ever.
So if the girl is kissing you, you’re pretty much already there. Beyond that if she’s close enough to be kissing you any TuTH you’re wearing on your neck or upper chest is going to be hitting her pretty hard anyway.
Cant say I totally agree with the other guys on the safty aspect. I do think its a waste of good mones though.
However…
Using a dab above your lip wont hurt you, the ladies have been using different pheromones in lip gloss for some time now and Jasmin even endorses the dab above the lip method. Androtics made a lip balm and sold it here in this very store 5 or so years ago. They stopped selling it because it melted to much in the mail.
Just be aware that a balm will absorb into your lips so whatever you put in the balm is going in. However with balms and glosses very little comes off when you lick your lips so you wont be ingesting it in toxic levels.
Believe me I am a big advocate of responsible pheromone use and have been outspoken about it right here in this forum. Neroli in non toxic. Dipropylene glycol has a very low toxicity. Perfumers alcohol is toxic if ingested in large amounts but you get just as much in your system spraying it on your skin as you do using it in a balm.
Pheromones are naturally occurring in your body. Its when you use way more then the natural body makes that they can become a problem. Just like water, Your made of 80% water so you would not think water is toxic to the human body. To much water can kill you though.
So a little balm once in a while is fine, Just dont balm daily or over and over all day.
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Alcohol is used in most standard commercial lip sticks glosses and balms
I am referring to the fact that the fragrances in TUTH and other product that have fragrance packages are not meant for ingestion. They are chemicals that are not designed to drink or eat. When the lip balm was made, it did not contain these types of fragrance chemicals I am fairly certain.
And I am agreeing they are not made for ingesting although neroli is non toxic and used in tincture and infusions all the time so I am not at all worried about that. Ammo we dont know what scents are used so thats different then TUTH but still I am not worried. I am not suggesting anyone eat there lip balm or spray pheromones in their mouths. I do agree that when they made the lip balm it didnt have all the same substances in it that the sprays have but it did have pheromones and that was my reason for pointing it out. I did address the carriers separately in my post.
A little about balms which I make all the time…
Balms create a barrier. Its what they do. They trap water and substances in and repel water and substances away from. You can lick your lips with a wet tongue and its not easily coming off so your not going to ingest it. That’s why they can use the chemicals they do in lip sticks and balms. Some lip colors have lead in them which is far more dangerous then the stuff Androtics uses in there products.
You wouldst know this of course (because you dont wear it) but its why you cant get lip stick easily off your teeth with your tongue, you have to use a tissue or your finger. The balm creates a barrier between the moisture that carries food, drink and other substances in and the surface (of lips teeth etc ) which prevents you from licking it off or swallowing it in toxic amounts.
If your a cosmetic conscious person or activist sure they will tell you that over time with repeated daily use any chemical, on the lips or skin, that is not organic is harmful. So they will be telling you the same thing about any pheromone, perfume or cologne you use. Some of these activists are a bit over zealous and have some misconceptions on certain products. I have talked about parabens myself in make up and hygiene products like shampoo. I even try to limit them myself to them and dont wear colored lip sticks because of the lead but I find balance by cutting out some environmental toxins and using others or just cutting back on the volume I use. While I am health conscious I try not to be a fanatic either. I weigh the pro’s and cons and decide from there.
Using a phero spiked balm on occasions (in reasonable dosages of course) is not dangerous in my opinion. Using them all day everyday can be but I would tell you the same thing about wearing good old chap stick. If you spray pheromone on your neck and then your girl friend nuzzles and kisses that spot, which is a common reported reaction they are far more likely to ingest it then in a lip balm.
I will say this though… from all the testing the women did its not a very effective way to use your mones which I feel was useful information for Androtics research in testing and developing products.
They are a spray cologne and not intended for that use and I can not even elude to recommending a product not intended to be used orally to be placed on the lips, its simple as that. Like some people said if you’re kissing, the spray already did its job. haha
Anyhoo, thanks Tisha for your info on lip balm making.
If you want dry cracked lips that burn and sting and are ugly to look at (one of the biggest complaints from women about guys is their chapped, dry lips) add some alcohol to your lips daily. SD38 will burn them and crack them and make them very unattractive and do the exact opposite of what TUTH is intended to do.
I stand by my reasoning that using mones like this is irresponsible, not just to yourself, but to anyone you might be kissing. On that note you should send Tisha all your mones, stand in the corner and when done write on the blackboard:
I will listen to Steve O and send him money every week.
Ok this kinda turned into a heated debate, should I be ‘slightly hazardous kiss guy’ or should I be ‘blue bottle upper lip dabber guyXD’.
Ashame the Lip Magnet was canceled because I would suppose a mini 5ml jar with lid would work on holding it together while shipping.
Actually I have used TUTH when kissing for a long while and feel less confident kissing with no pheromone support in the air. So im gona quit using TUTH on dates for now and just have it at hand as a bedroom collogne;P.
Thanks for the comments.
then.. well youknow-_-’ must be safe I suppose. And I warm it in water not microwaving as a side note.
I do agree that when they made the lip balm it didnt have all the same substances in it that the sprays have but it did have pheromones and that was my reason for pointing it out. I did address the carriers separately in my post.
… just kidding.