I am going to mix up an atomizer with just perfumer’s alcohol, iso e super, and hedione and see what effects I get from that. Will apply it on a different area than my phero apps.
I am very interested in your results and how this will turn out. Keep us updated.
I’ve actually decided to mix some with dpg and am applying it on my face next to my ears. No pheromones are being applied on top or next to the hedione app though I am wearing other pheromones.
I’m curious, is DPG absorbed by the skin quite fast? Does it remain oily or is it sticky?
I’ve never found it sticky. It is a bit oily for the first ten minutes, but nothing noticeable after it dries down.
Thanks for the info.
What’s up with the nomination in that thread? Did somebody do a misclick?
Any thoughts on P106, P90, P75, and TAF in this capacity? I have also been putting highly diluted civet tincture and castoreum with all pheromone applications.
P106 is a status molecule - one of the best in that category, since it’s social and not intimidating like most others, but there are conceivable blends that wouldn’t get value added from it, so I don’t think it’s a universal enhancer.
P90 is a specific-use molecule that requires balance with other components to work.
P75 is intimidating and aggressive in high doses, and is also a specific-use molecule that is important for buffering other molecules and yielding respect.
TAF is a universal enhancer, but unlike P96 it is possible to overdose with it.
P85 and P96 are still my fave universal enhancers.
I’ve been doing this with the same mixture but also small amounts of civet, hyraceum, and castoreum + a low concentratuon of p75.
Definite respect boost with the various oil based alpha blends I am combining this with.
Interesting. What concentration of P75 are you using? Are civet, hyraceum and castoreum all synthetic equivalents or the real stuff?
0.5 mcg per spray.
The civet, hyraceum, and castoreum are natural and obtained from what are as far as I can tell legit sources. I’d link but I am not sure that is within the forum rules.
What’s your experience with P85? Can you go into details? I searched the forum and couldn’t find anything on it.
P119 is a great all around enhancer.
25 mcg in a mix
I dont really think there are too many ‘universal’ enhancers. This is because most of the molecules have secondary properties that will also modify the results of a mix and usually need to be adjusted for.
A few examples, Hedione which is man made was tried as a universal enhancer and failed because what works well with one mix doesnt mean it works identically well with every mix if it has other properties. In the studies below, it turns out that it enhances diffusion but also hits like Androstadienone or EST, increases cooperation, releases sex hormones etc so its certainly a great addon but its going to buffer and cause mixes to behave much differently… Just needs to be in the right mix instead of every mix. Tuth + TAC benefitted from added hedione for example. Since its in popular colognes like Acqua Di Gio thats another reason why people have different experiences when adding to pheromones.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5411439/ - new one
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-smelling-of-hedione-results-in-sex-differentiated-human-brain-activity/64501
ISO E Super increases both diffusion distance and longevity and taken alone that sounded universal. For specific purpose like getting a mix with a too heavy molecule like Oxytocin or Astaxanthin in the air its wonderful and has a pleasant scent women love. But it does also buffer like a social so you need to keep that in mind. It also is going to slow down diffusion which can lead to longer times to start working.
Some molecules do well with many mixes, , P86 with its attraction at a distance, beautification, memory imprint/crush, touching/velcro but also buffers. P96 fixes bad mixes and fills in the gap, but also has emotion imprint, comfort and bonding among many other things. P79 amplifies many of the pheromones in mixes, but seems to work best for me in blends with mood enhancers or negative is amplified …