"Venting" my Adventures

i think it was a good idea to get low doses,
this way you can have more application points.
my TAH’s are all pretty high,
but then again im a freak for TAH.

next day and i havent washed it off,
it smells like a breeze,
like light sandlewood and baby powder, almost not there.

going out to run errands and i am inspired to bathe in TAH from Tigerlily’s post.

wearing:
TAH 40mu
IH 1 spray
EST 75mu
honey cops

la de la la de dah… :slight_smile:

note:
since my TAH is a 25mu bottle,NOT a 20mu bottle,

i have been using 50mu everytime i have stated that i have been using 40mu. :o
sorry.

great day btw with TAH.

anyone interested,
TAH IS STICKY.
yes,
i said sticky.

i tried scrubbing it off with walnut scrub and i can still smell it.

not that i want it off,
but i wanted fresh application for work and its on me like white on rice.

just thought that was interesting.:slight_smile:

VERY interesting… so then when I was reapplying it, I WAS getting up in the 62.5+ mcg range?

Thanks for this!! :slight_smile:

I’m so jealous that TAH works so well for you ladies - I cant stand IS/b unless its buffered with something else sugary and bright, like Shine.

Perhaps better luck with TAH itself ?
Argh.
I’m always plagued by such temptation when walking into this particular journal…:roll_eyes:

you have the unfragranced, right?

experiment.
wear for a few hours and then try to scrub it off.
after soap smell wears, you get more TAH.

i was shocked.
i mean, i used a walnut-hull scrub, and still there.

still added more,:roll_eyes:,
will definately report in morning.

i have more interesting news on TAH :open_mouth:

buffered for what purpose?
TAA can be uplifting,
as is in shine,
but are you saying instant sexiness B is depressing you?

i want to help you to be able to use it.

For me,
TAH is a pink shield of love.

add EST,
it morphs into this tree-hugging,
omg i can see your spirit,
look at all we have in common,
the glass is half full,
we are all so freaking beautiful why cant everyone see it
type synergy.

I’m totally using the wrong word to describe it here, lol. But okay okay, not so much buffered as it is… merely using in conjunction with.

When I use IS/b, I find myself much more meek and concerned with what others think of me. I can’t say I even know why - usually I feel competitive, blunt and very much “in-charge”. With IS/b, it disappears or fades, leaving me very uncertain.

Last time I used it with shine, I felt quite abit of confidence - I wasn’t worried or fretting about the absence of my usual alpha demeanor like I was with IS/b alone. I was actually happy about it - Happy to be girlish and kittenish, and happy to let others take the rein. Content with being suddenly “just like everyone else and everyone else is like me” rather than a nervous wreck about it.

I dont know if that makes sense.

I needed the smallish/whatever amount of TAL in MX135 to bring me back from being too young & girly too. I wasn’t meek, but I was too pink/cute/girly with straight TAH at the (admittedly) high dose I wore. The MX135 TAH heavy with some TAL helped bring me right back to congruence.

I think you’re outgoing and fun enough that the Anols might have been doing the same for you - bringing the meekness up with some (for you) “natural” anol effects added in for YOUR best congruency lvl.

Just my thoughts…

My nose is poo - I can’t smell jack. :roll_eyes:

Don’t keep me in suspense! What more do you have? Can’t wait till AM! :slight_smile:

well

i am comming up with new theories as to why others get some unsatisfactory results with TAH,
including my tips,
but this is all good stuff here…

first i want to note that i wore

50mu of TAH (on top of anything residual)
100mu EST

tips were adequate.

what i want to mention about this night
other than the obvious night-flying-by that usually happens when i am all-about people,
is that we had a problem come up
where the bossman had to leave.

other than appearing really upset over the problem,
there was noted concern over how i felt about being left alone,
but at the same time
no concern at all in leaving the place in my hands.

i am convinced
that TAH in no way “makes” you appear less capable or less alpha.

if you are alpha,
there isnt enough TAH in the world to change that.
it can soften the way you are percieved,
but it wont make you
percieved as less than that.

all these posts about TAH
knocking the feet (or spine) out from under them,
really has to do with self-effects,
and less about how they are genuinely percieved.

when MX292 makes a guy feel super confident,
they have written they walk differently, behave differently.

i would have to say it is the same with TAH.
and then
people react to your behaviour.

when Cookie says:

worrying about the loss of an alpha demeanor isnt alpha behaviour.

i dont think pheromones can make you lose or gain it,
all they can do is enhance or play it down.

alpha is who you are, not what you smell like.

i can feel less alpha, but then who i am doesnt allow anyone to handle me even under high doses of TAH.

TAH doesnt allow for others to take the rein for me
unless
that is their* job*.

i have noticed that
whenever i have felt introverted or quiet wearing TAH,
its always followed by a genuine vulnerability
that is NOT TAH related.

this is usually either
sickeness or
that time of the month.

my TAH wearing lately has been in the absence of TAL
and i have not noticed
being treated as less aware or less knowledgable
just more approachable
and more inclusive.

key word being inclusive.

if typical alpha behaviour is to be exclusive,
than TAH allows for more without making ME less.

make sense?

hopefully my last post said something about TAH.
i know your experience is different,
but
if we are both alpha-type people,
there should be some similarities as well.

shine has social and buffering pheromones for agressive mones like 'none i read .

im trying to wrap my head around shine
giving back confidence
UNLESS
it is psychological ( i am enhanced by shine and thus shinier)

what do you think?

do you think there is TAL in shine?

anything is possible you know!

for the record,
my connection to TAH
and poor tipping
is directly related to my actions reflecting what is really important to me while under the influence of TAH.

what is important?

love.
love is all there is.

until
i get home and
need to pay bills.
:open_mouth:

I agree, actually. I am HUGE on self effects - these pheros effect YOU, as well as everyone else. How can you wear something and expect nothing to happen to your own body?

So when you wear something like TAH that influences you towards behaving softer and more girly, I believe that your actions, in synchronicity with the pheromonic effects that other person is receiving, are what precipitates the actions of you and towards you.

If the individual is unable to process being softer, more girly, etc, then perhaps that is playing out as a perceived “meekness/weakness” internally? When you wear TAH, and have a soft, loving, happy, “falling in love with the world” vibe, but that’s not congruent with your inner self (for any number of reasons, both emotional and physiological)…? Would that cause someone to feel out of control emotionally? Really, we are trying to influence our own moods/behaviors/thought patterns chemically as well as others, so should it really be a surprise if sometimes people can’t handle it? I agree more and more as I use this stuff with Diane that safety, security, and, most importantly, KNOWLEDGE is essential prior to using any of this.

I also sometimes wonder if people truly classify themselves correctly as Alphas.

although i adore the self-effects,
the original point of using the pheromones was to enhance your signiture through the influence of others.

i remember a while back MHarris or Jasmin mentioned that these formulas were not intentioned to be self-effectors,
although they do at first.

the idea is that once you get used to your mixes, the self-effects cease to some degree if not all together.

its possible that the new and improved intention on this forum NOW is to get self-effects,
but then that is NOT using pheromones to enhance your signature,
its self-medicating.

the idea is that you are “immune” to your natural signature
(you dont walk around high on the small amount of pheromones we naturally produce.)

its for this reason that i begin to believe that some of the forum memebers are trying less to influence with a signature,
and MORE to manipulate with large unnatural doses.

i am implying intention.

When you state:

i could not agree more.

alpha personality from what i understand are stress-junkies who are competitive and aggressive.
beta personality from what i understand are easy going and lax.
they lack drive.
over simplification, i know.

if i were to label myself, i thought i was extrememly easy going :o
i am told that i am very socially aggressive and tend to debate,
so i feel i am more a combination.

Which people on here are consistently doing - how many times are users advised to “take a break” from pheros so you don’t “get used” to them, or switch mixes to let your body acclimate/re-acclimate?

Is it also necessarily a bad thing to wear Shine/TAA to uplift your own mood, and then tangentially those around you? The self effects from socials have dramatically improved some peoples lives, as Jasmine herself has testified to with some of her friends.

You wear a consistent mix in your work environment, with some day to day tweaking, but pretty much report a non-varied self effect from each of the differing mixes you use. Your recent tests on MX135 definitely had a “self effects” tinge to them.

Do you believe that to be conscious or unconscious on their part? Or lack of education?

Also, we can’t (generally) artificially augment or change our natural phero signature. The intention to influence is already there based on our use of the pheros.

At what point does “influence” become “manipulation?”

Is true out-and-out manipulation even possible?

This is not meant to be a confrontational post, but a truly honest inquiry into phero usage and theory. :slight_smile:

Lor I think you are confusing A-type personalities for Alpha - From Wiki
*
Type A individuals can be described as impatient, excessively time-conscious, insecure about their status, highly competitive, hostile and aggressive, and incapable of relaxation.[1] (A type - Wikipedia) They are often high achieving workaholics who multi-task, drive themselves with deadlines, and are unhappy about the smallest of delays. Because of these characteristics, Type A individuals are often described as “stress junkies.” Type B individuals, in contrast, are described as patient, relaxed, and easy-going. There is also a Type AB mixed profile for people who cannot be clearly categorized.*

Whereas, Alpha from wiki

In social animals, the alpha is the individual in the community to whom the others follow and defer. Where one male and one female fulfill this role, they are referred to as the alpha pair. In some groups, the alpha males and females are overrepresented in the genetics of a population if they are the only ones who breed successfully.

Alpha’s are leaders - they are self-assured and therefore are typically NOT “stressed-out” because they know what they got and how to use it.

I find many A-types actually lack true confidence, making them Beta’s striving to act like Alpha’s.

B-types who are unwilling to take a leader role (act with any degree of assertiveness) are also Beta’s… they are just comfortable being Beta.

True Alpha’s have elements of both personalities… the ability to be laid back and the ability to take charge and be aggressive.

(In other words… when you described yourself as an A/B personality you allowed for the possibility of you being an Alpha female…the impression I get of you is that you are one… but it could just be your internet personality :stuck_out_tongue:)

Oh and on another note - I think Pheromone use has effectively become both for changing your own signature to affect those around you, and also for self-effects.

Something like A314 gives me a swagger in my walk… seemingly no matter how commonly I use it I feel that swagger - the swagger is half of what makes A314 so effective.

Okay, this comes from my experiences, so bear with me:

The best type of “Alpha” example I can find is from living abroad. The african woman, the matriarch of the tribe; the indian woman, head of her family; the women who glue their societies and social circles together, the backbones of the families, the souls and right hands of their partners/husbands, all while juggling the kids, cooking, tribal politics, living in the third world, disease, famine, stress, and war -
and still having a smile, still having that inner confidence to KEEP it all glued together, keep everyone going day to day. That inner shine. The one that everyone goes to. That powerful faith and sense of self to always move forward, confidently. Assertive. Knowing. Powerful. SELF powerful. A true, true leader, in all senses of the word

THAT to me is alpha.

Doesn’t matter if you’re married or independent, attached or not. It comes from inside the self. A “natural” type of outlook to the world that is powerful, controlled, contained. A complete and total self sufficiency/self-power that bleeds into every aspect of your life. You LEAD your life, and then others as well.

Unfortunately, Alpha can be lonely. It needs nothing but the self.

NOT alpha is the “learned” independence - “i live in LA/NYC on my own and don’t need no man” type.

the only way i truely know without deference to a definition
whether or not someone is Alpha,
is basically by habitual behaviour.

not necessarily every little detail,
but the bigger picture over-all.

do they follow or do they lead,
in terms of creativity AND being excessive.

i have taken those tests that we used to post
that tell you which way you lean.

none of them were really definitive for me personally,:frowning:,
but i definatley could see how other’s results
and their experimenting-style
matched.

i thought this was more about others acclimating to your signature,
like our SO’s and co-workers, not so much ourselves.

even changing them up isnt often enough for one who uses daily in my experience.
but thats me.
i have acclimated to most of these molecules, certainly not all.

the striving part,
regardless of success or failure on their part,
to me was Alpha.
not all real Alphas succeed in everything they do (in their eyes)
but the act of striving showed pro-active behaviour.
i didnt know Betas to “strive” but to be comfortable,
but there again lies my skewed definition of Alpha.

i love these conversations !!!
:slight_smile: