Hi everyone…
I got me some P83 just for the heck of it. My question is, what was this product designed for? Or, what is it’s purpose?? And what does “putative” mean??
Thanks everyone!
Hi everyone…
I got me some P83 just for the heck of it. My question is, what was this product designed for? Or, what is it’s purpose?? And what does “putative” mean??
Thanks everyone!
No one is clear yet on what putatives do, and that’s why you have to test them out, report back, and tell us what they did for you so we can start following a pattern and hopefully then finding out what they do. ENJOY!
Oh, yeah I forgot to mention that you will need to test them out ALONE first so you can know exactly what they do; if you layer them with other pheromones then you won’t know what’s doing what. So try them out completely alone first, until you get an idea of what they do effect wise.
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Yah, Mikoto is right on spot. Although I’d say it would be wise to try P83 together with some other mixes, too. A lot of people didn’t see much happening with P83 alone. It’s often described as an disinhibitor which you can steer with the rest of your pheromone signature…
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Putative means that it’s a molecule that is suspected to possess pheromonal qualities, but is as of yet unproven.
The Putatives should be tested at low and high levels and in between, as the effects can sometimes vary widely depending on levels worn.
As far as buying Putatives or experimental test mixes then asking for information on what they do, well that kind of defeats the purpose and will often skew testing.
MX292 is a great example, as most of the inital reports on it suggested that is was a social product and non-sexual. Then after Jasmin said that she was surprised because the reporting differed form the results they were expecting, everyone started seeing it the sexual side of it and reporting how awesome it was.
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putative pew-tat-iv]
Adjective
Formal
1. commonly regarded as being: the desire of the putative father to establish his possible paternity
2. considered to exist or have existed; inferred: a putative earlier form [Latin putare to consider]
Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006
I think in the case of Androtics p series specifically, these are chemicals (molecules) that Mharris and company have identified as having a similar structure or similar properties to established pheromones like Androsterone, Androstenol, Estratetraenol ect. They may affect people or they may not. It’s also been reported that some of the “known” pheromones are mixed in as sort of a “check” on the established consensus of what they do.
The best thing to do with your P83 is to test it, alone and with other products, and give honest feedback on what it did or what effects you believe it had. It’s all research, it’s all in the spirit of of getting to know yourself and interacting with others, and it’s all fun as zell!
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With a new putative, one generally should go with their own experience, but P83 has been around for a bit, and there seems to be a recurring pattern with it. Many of us have noticed it has similar sexual qualities as androstenone, but without the heaviness and possible side effects (the so-called “-none rage” you may have seen mentioned before, among others).
Because of this, a lot of us have expressed interest in an Ammo formula with P83 instead of androstenone to try out. In fact, I think it was actually produced as an MX series, but the number escapes me.
The standard disclaimer of “your mileage may vary” applies, of course.
-D4
I am not surprised. It was expected to be more social but women are social and emotional creatures and a vibe like the one expected with MX292 could cause a sexual reaction even though looking at the formula may indicate otherwise.
That’s why I say never under estimate the power of the social mones.
Putative means…commonly regarded as such; reputed; supposed
These need testing and reporting. Use it on its own and not with other mones at first. Try to get a feel for it that way by using a range of dosages then report on it. If you see nothing don’t be afraid to report that. About half way or more through the bottle use it with another mix your familiar with and see if it steers it in a particular direction.
These take a little experience to get used to so don’t get discouraged.
Now if you test and report on all your products with detailed info you can become part of the “reporting users group” These are the members who test and report and for doing so get advanced products at a discounted rate. Some of which are pretty big.
These posts will help in understanding what they need data wise
Keep in mind you can write it in your own style but this just gives you ideals of the info they are looking for and the method of testing.
Have fun (I love P83 ) ![]()
Tisha
I been using P83 and to be honest I seen no results I mean I used it in combo and as stand alone and still nothing I started off with two sprays and gone up to 4 and nothing.