Hello everybody,
I have a question. Do you know what can destroy the properties/effectiveness of the pheromones?
I just ordered two bottles of pheromones - Scent of Ero and nude alpha. It is shipping from USA to Malaysia. I’m afraid it is exposed to sun or heat and will destroy the pheromones by the time I receive it. Is my worry founded?
And what would destroy the pheromones? Something that we all should be caution of.
Thanks
Prolonged sunlight.
Extreme heat (over 140 degrees)
Bacteria or other organic organisims getting into the bottle.
Evaporation of carrier
Thats about it
Or of course enzymes, bleach, ammonia and stuff like that will do them in as well.
Tisha
>Bacteria or other organic organisims getting into the bottle.
hmm…isn’t the air that we breathe contain tons of bacteria…our every inhalation contains millions of bacteria…
So by opening the bottle of pheromones itself, it is already being exposed to bacteria…
Or perhaps not so serious as I imagine?
Also another related question , it is necessary for the skin to be clean ( I mean very clean like immediately after washing) before we can rub the pheromone on our skin? I don’t think everyone bath themselves before applying pheromones…then again if their skin is not very clean, bacteria may just stick to the rubbing surface…
The atomizer prevents this issue, unless you actually screw the whole thing off of it. But I don’t think its THAT drastic that you can’t open the bottle.
You’ve been rubbing them on? You mean like A314 oil? Try not to rub too hard as you can ‘crush’ the molecules, I just lightly brush my wrists together in a circular pattern or wipe it on my cheekbone.
And it probably is best to apply on clean skin like with anything.
Hope this helps!
All bacteria is not created equal LOL. You do not have to worry about airborne bacteria. When I say “getting in the bottle” I don’t mean it floated in the air and landed in the bottle. Usually it happens from cross contamination.
Like putting your finger over the open mouth of a bottle and turning it upside down to get some on your finger for application or using unclean pipettes and funnels. Roller bottles can contaminate the mones as well. I like them but your rolling it directly on the skin and that roller is picking up coryneform and who knows what else and transferring it inside the bottle.
I never heard of “crushing molecules”. It would take quite a bit of friction to actually crush them and if your rubbing that much you got bigger problems then your pheromones. I do agree with John though that lightly spreading them is better then rubbing them in.
Everyone has bacteria on there skin. There is no way to get rid of it and frankly it has a purpose so you dont want to. Bacteria in itself is not a bad thing. It helps to diffuse the mones. However you want to avoid dark moist areas for application because in those areas there is to much bacteria and it can covert the mones as well as make you stick like BO.
You dont have to be squeaky clean when you apply mones. I tend to take a shower every morning and apply my mones later when I am getting ready to go out. Works the same either way.
Tisha
It was something I was told directly from the source. And I’ve seen people pick up A314 for the first time and rub it into their skin like it was aloe or sun-tan lotion, just making sure he wasn’t doing that.
I would hazard a guess that too much rubbing will greatly increase the skin’s absorbtion of pheros and carrier. Similarly applying to very dry skin will also increase the uptake of carrier. Thus making it more difficult to diffuse or shortening active life in other ways.
This is why I do the very light application of lotion with A314 oil (and other non-AD oils), then wait a couple of minutes to let it settle-in, the apply the oil with only light rubbing. Scent/activity is apparent far linger this way.
Alcohol base (even with DPG fixing) is less bother as it evaporates rapidly leaving a surface deposit and I do notice more presence just after a shower or bath, although this could be put down to increased circulation aiding diffusion.
Actually, I’m using scent of ero for men and nude alpha .
Thanks for all answers.
However, on first day yesterday I applied both SEO and NA and went to a certain place to test out but got no response. I’m slim and slightly above average looking.
Today I apply only Nude alpha and sitting in the post office waiting for my turn but no response nor did I notice any woman looking at me…
I tried to stand close to a quite attractive woman for about 8 minutes but she didn’t even look at me. Hmmm…why…
Any comment?
Besides, after I rub the pheromone (scent of ero in my case) on my forearm, about six inches each, what shall I do next?
Just leave it there or spread it with my wrist?
Actually the pheromone on my forearm can easily touch my shirt or somewhere as I walk or continue with my normal activities…does touching the spot with pheromone with clothes or even with water remove the pheromone?
Also the application on wrist can be easily washed away by water. All of us wash our hands after meal, or when our hand dirty thorough the day…does washing remove the phermone?
First start out testing one at a time. You wont know which one is working and the dosage if you layer right away.
I think you may have a misconception as to what mones do. They make interaction more productive and easier. To interact you have to act. That means you still have to make a effort.
Pheromones will not attract every single female. There can be many reasons why she didnt react. The main reason is distraction. She is probably standing in line thinking about all the crap she has to do that day and your standing there wearing nude which is a aggressive sexual mix. Last thing she is in the mood for . Or maybe she has a boyfriend or husband. Maybe she has 12 kids waiting in the car. Who knows… Dont over examine every person who is exposed to your mones.
Attraction is not just pheromonal. It occurs visually, pheromonally, verbally. It involves all the senses. Using mones just improves and enhances one of those points of attraction. It wont do it all for you though.
Spread not rub. Yes just let it dry down.
As long as you waited for dry down it shouldn’t come off on your shirt. If your shit touches the application point when its still wet and fresh some will get on it but its no big deal. It doesn’t remove it it just gets on your shirt.
Yes washing with soap and water removes pheromones. Just splashing a little water on a application spot wont though.
I never really cared for wrist applications. Your wrists are not that diffusive really. Sure the pulse points heat a little but its so far from your major organs which produce much more heat thus diffuse the mones better. If your mones dont diffuse they wont work.
Tisha
Thanks for reply
>If your mones dont diffuse they wont work.
Then if i apply it to forearm, then it is worst as it can’t diffuse.
Which point do u think best and can be diffuse well?
I’m using scent of ero and nude alpha…both bottles are to be rubbed, not spray…
I find the head area works well. Neck, behind ears, back of neck, jaw line.
The chest is another place that diffuses well.
The forearms and wrists will work, I just dont find them to be the MOST diffusive.
Tisha
Wouldn’t it be good that after applying the phermone (by rubbing) on forearm, use my finger to spread it evenly?
Sorry, i was confused why not rubbing (with finger or wrist)…will it destroy the effectiveness of pheromone?
No spreading wont hurt them. Rubbing really vigorously may but I asked my brother who is a chemist and he said no you cant crush them however rubbing profusely can make them work deeper into the epidermis making diffusion slower. So just gently spread them.
Tisha
Yeah sorry if I was confusing. I was talking about people who rub them in with a lot of friction like crazy. Some people think they need to rub it down 18 layers of skin for some reason.
True, I dont get why some people do that. Its not lotion. You just want to spread it enough so its not thick on the skin and annoying.
With the alcohol based sprays like here at AD you dont really need to touch it at all. It will dry down on its own. If you want to cover more area learn to sweep when you apply. Unless your appling near the face (like jaw line) its fairly simple.
Tisha
Thanks
What do you do when applying unscented pheromone? the smell is like my sweat and not a good smell. It may drive the girl away by such smell
Unscented is not a good idea for pheros as the more volatile scent components actually help the phero diffusion.
Depending on just which phero it is, you may either mix it in cologne, cover the application point with a spray of cologne or apply the cologne alongside - which is best with oils as scent over oil can totally mess-up diffusion.
Also remember that scent sensitivity varies widely between individuals, so it does not automatically mean that if you find it stinks, someone else will and conversely, if someone is sensitive to the scent of a particular phero, there is often very little hope of covering it effectively as their atunement to the scent is usually so strong that it will cut through any cover after a short time.
Unscented mones are a bit harder to diffuse of the body.
Naturally the bacteria on the body feeds on your sweat and subsequently your pheromones and converts it to body odor like we smell when were all sweaty and dirty. Fresh sweat doesn’t smell like BO until the bacteria on the skin converts it. It smells fresh and human like. The more bacteria the faster the conversion. You can never really totally get rid of that bacteria and you dont want to because it has its purpose.
Body odor is what carries the remaining natural pheromones off the body into the air for others to inhale. That and of course heat. Now in this day and age people are very hygienic so if your stinky people notice and avoid you. They are more likely to attract and inhale more mones if you smell good. In the previous centuries people were not so hygienic so no one really noticed BO it was just part of life.
For mones to diffuse well they have to bind to a scent. If you use unscented mones they can only bind to your natural body odor which may well be converted to stink after awhile. So scent is not just to cover the stinky smell its to help in the binding process so the mones can go airborne and reach there targets. Without diffusion you have nothing.
Unscented is really for advanced users who plan to make there own mixes and add there own binders and cover scent.
I wouldn’t suggest it.
Tisha
Also, don’t be afraid of having a bit of smell - I’ve lost count of how often a woman has told me that she gets really turned-on by a bit of “healthy sweat” on a man, or how certain cologne scents really hit the spot when interacting with a bit of natural male odour.
Not rancid/unwashed of course but a guy who smells like he’s been doing something physical and could be well-up for doing a lot more! 