What CONCRETE RESULTS have MONES given you with THE LADIES?

hey, how is it going AplAy?

I have read this whole thread and yes, most of the replies were harsh, but you weren’t clear enough with your question and whether you were bashing them, making fun of the people who used it or just asking questions to learn more about them. But you cleared it up and i believe you

Now to answer your question about negative self effects, I had a few.I find that using the product P75, anything more then 2.5mcg/spray for me makes me low in patience, get ticked off easily, and blurt stuff without thinking. i should have a full report on it and the postive and negative self effects with detailed descriptions. Probably on the weekend.

Another product that i had negative self effects was instant shine. I’m usually an energetic person and i do alot of activity in one day but when i add Instant shine in the morning, it makes me feel good, but after couple of hours, all my energy is gone and i don’t feel like doing anything. Applying more didn’t help at all after the mones wore off, so i have to time it perfectly(probably in the evenings) on when to use this one. I’m giving you my observation based on 2 weeks worth of testing.

Take care
God bless

For A314

The major component is Androsterone. It is a naturally occuring chemical in humans. There are others which I’m guessing are Androstenone and Androstenol as well but we don’t know the exact quantities. Plenty of people here have expressed concerns over the long term usage of pheromones, and the likes of tisha23 and tacitus, have all had medical tests done and are in good health. Those are only two people I’ve read about with long term usages and no effects present, now there are about 20k plus people here who are first time users, and there hasn’t been too much concern reported except some skin irritations, which can happen with any fragrance products. DPG is the main carrier for A314, it is used in many cosmetic products on the market out there as well, as for any chemical compounds, the DPG can irritate skin but again that’s the most of it.

For products like Instant Shine, it can give you a caffine like crash, but you’ll get used to it. As for the anxiety feelings, they last like 10-15 min, its just a new sensation your body gets. Otherwise been pretty safe so far.

AplAy, I think Mones wont do the whole work for you, there is some parts are all depending on you, like do NOT sit on a corner and wait for women to come up to you, if you know what I mean. Mones would help you A LOT though, but you have to play it good when you get into convos and stuff.

Whenever someone comes on here sounding even slightly skeptical people seem to jump all over them. It’s kind of over-the-top.
Weren’t we all skeptical at first? Give these guys a break

I think it was the attitude component… demanding responses according to one’s specifications in never the best idea

LOL this is just funny, ok

That was pretty rude. Considering. Just watch your words

I don’t think they were jumping on him for asking questions. I’ve seen these guys help newbies time in and time out, but don’t be hostile cause we’re here to help. We’re not in the service business that we have to kiss your behind even if you are rude.

Go away, please.

Correct. Remember months ago when a couple newbies showed up demanding answers. They wanted scientific data and what the ratios were in what products. Thankfully Steve sent them packing like evicted tenants.

P51 shoooo away

If you REALLY want to see if the mones work without any placebo effects try this idea.
Order to go sizes of Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, Instant Gentleman, Ammo, Instant Jerk and Turn Up the Heat…specially orders so they all have the same cover scent…even call AD and have them send you a bottle of pure cover scent with no mones at all in it.

Then wrap each bottle with black electrical tape so the labels are totally covered.
Put all the bottles in a hat, and randomly remove them and label each randomly chosen mystery bottle with a number.
Follow Steves instructions for finding your sweet spot (3 days at one spray a day, 2 days off, 3 days at 2 sprays a day, 2 days off etc. And journal the experience. Make not of IF people seem to react differently to you when you wear bottle number 1 and in what way.
After you’ve gone through the whole process and have journal ed what…if any changes you may have observed then you can uncover the labels and see if your observations line up with the product descriptions.

I only suggest this since you mention placebo effect when talking about trying A314.

As for concrete results…I’ve been studying and practicing PUA for a few years now, add to that I’m one damn sexy sunavabitch, I can’t give mones total credit for getting me laid, I’m good enough at doing that myself. BUT having been doing the whole PUA gig for a while I’ve gotten pretty good at actually being in the moment and catching signs that your typical AFC might not notice.

Preopening: If I walk into a club and make my rounds (making sure everyone has a chance to see me), and then I take a temporary position. I would normally get some eye contact and or proximity from a couple of girls in one or two sets within 10-15 minutes. When I do this wearing a mone mix…(usually 3 sprays each of Ammo and Instant Shine over 2 drops of A314) I’ll get 4-5 girls displaying interest under similar conditions (factoring whether I’m displaying SP by being in set or not) and usually in less than 10 minutes.

Opening: If I open set 10 times in a night, I might get blown out on the opener 3 times on average…With mones…maybe one in ten will reject the approach (note I’m talking aproach only and not referring to being blown out at a later stage)

Attraction: This is where I usually kick ass and have NO problems once opened. But I will have to say it does just feel easier. It’s as if the attraction is already there before I’ve done many (if any) DHV’s or flipped any attraction switches. Sometimes once I get past “hello” I’m getting girlish giggles and some playful kino slapping of the arm and such.

Male to female attraction. Mixed bag, at first I actually had trouble with this stage until I figured out to pull back on the A314. Seemed that when I wear A314 what was my normal rate of compliance testing/screening etc was seen as me being an asshole. Turns out the vibe I was giving off was TOO high status and the attraction was already there on her part so playing too hard to get would upset and/or embarrass her. I switched from 2pts Ammo/3 pts A314 to 3 pts Ammo/2Pts A314 and it got a whole lot easier.

Comfort: Again mixed bag for me. Seems the attraction was always there and if I stuck with the above described mix of A314/Ammo/Shine I did ok, with some slight improvement but nothing huge. However…
If I were to swap out the Instant Shine for Instant Openness I would sail through opening and attraction but comfort would be a bit harder as attention spans seemed all over the place. Comfort is hard to achieve when the girls going a million miles an hour about fucking NOTHING!
Instant Honesty…maaaade for comfort. Good for the earlier stages too but just seems like they take a few minutes longer. For this reason I prefer IH to IO.

Seduction stage. I’d say my rate of LMR was about the same as my rate of being blown out on the opener. I get 10 girls to comfort stage, I can close with 7 of them. Since using mones it fluctuates between 8 and 9 now.

Now like I said, I could get girls without mones, but it DOES enhance my game and makes it easier. I’m trained to notice facial expressions, changes in vocal pitch and body language etc. and I can tell you I see IOI’s and signs of attraction more often, they’re usually more intense and obvious and they occur much faster and with less effort on my part than I get without them.

Beyond the women, I work in sales and I’ve experienced a substantial and measurable increase in my monthly average when I use A314 and IH at the office.

ktrain’s black fallout mix (my revision with p86) and a few other mixes helped me to land my current gf.

not saying it’s all the mones because I worked that shit like a motherfucker… but they definitely helped me push it over the edge

my gf is 21, 5’11/6’ tall, 150 lbs, pierced, inked, and sexy as all hell. I’m 30, 5’11/6’, 240 lbs, inked, used to be pierced, and not nearly as sexy as she is… but at the beginning of the year I weighed almost 300 lbs, so I’m getting there.

This helped me immensely!!! The whole post BUT this in particular :roll_eyes: