What do you suggest for a fourteen year old? Will anything work for me?

what do you suggest for a 14 year old? i’m kinda fat, but ppl say i have a great personality… will anything work for me?

Well, i would DEFINITELY tell you to stay away from the sexual products. You really just don’t need them at this age, and to be honest, they’d be more likely to scare girls away than attract them right now. I’d stick with the socials. But it would help to know a bit more about you first.

You said you have a great personality, but are you shy or outgoing? What were you hoping phero’s could do for you? And where were you planning on using them and on whom? These kinda things will help us give you the best recommendations for your needs. Looking forward to hearing back from ya!

well… i wanted to use it around school, so it’s not so awkward when girls dont talk to me. I mean im fine with the guys, but when there’s a girl in the group, i just stop talking, cuzz they dont talk to me… I just want to talk to more girls…

Hmm. Depends how much your parents would spend…I personally have not tried out pheromones YET…but I’d give NPA for Men a try. Its cheap, and I don’t know if it works well or not but I shall put up results when I buy it.

I say NPA For Men because alot of people give it good reviews. Also, it makes woman, or girls in your case, act more sexual towards you.

Now see, that may be a good idea for you, Carlos, since you’re 29. But he’s 14 years old and NPA is a highly-concentrated androstenone product. Really not a good idea for him. I would actually recommend trying out Come Talk To Me (mix 2), which has a mix of alpha and beta androstenols. That means it helps make people more chatty and open (alpha) while helping create that feeling of deeper connection and comfort (beta). I think it could help not only affect the girls in the group and make them more comfortable, but have some self-effects on yourself as well and make YOU more comfortable in those situations. But that’s just my two cents.

But i agree that NPA is a good product, don’t get me wrong. I own a bottle myself. :roll_eyes: But then, i’m also 22 years old.

Good Goddess. Stay away from NPA your 14 and it will just get your ass kicked by the older boys. Go with IG for a more mature smooth masculine vibe and the socials IO IH or Ishine.

Tisha

have you tried come talk to me, and does it actually work? can u send me a link, cuz i googled it and cant find it…

Yup! I have a bottle of it! It was one of the first products i got here.

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In my opinion, it’s not as strong… maybe directed is a better term… as either Instant Openness (alpha -nol) or Instant Honesty (beta -nol), but it gets the job done in a single bottle, so you don’t need to buy multiple ones. I mean, it’s not gonna bring girls over to talk to you if you’re hiding in a corner, but it’ll help when you both (girl and you) feel more relaxed and comfortable talking. Should help with those group situations.

Go introduce yourself in the new member’s section so that you can qualify for the Gift Certificate :slight_smile:

Hello miliads, 14 is a difficult age and i speak this not only as someone who has been there but i was youth worker for many years and encountered many 14 year old with all the anxiety that arise from that age.

Although i am using pheromones to add in my social anxiety which i have at varying degree since youth i would be reluctant to advise thier use.

Your size is not a barrier to conversation however your perception that it is, is a big barrier. Using pheros will not make girls talk to you more if don’t have the social skills or confidence to respond, if you put that emotional barrier up.

I have seen the confidence of young boys increase from nothing to being very social without pheros, this mainly due to ‘positive feedback’ and so building self esteem. Of course i can’t give this to you but would suggest finding an activity that you are good at or could become good at, nothing too geeky, this will raise your self esteem and if you find that something that is of interest to girls they will talk to you.

My point is that pheros alone will not help, if you want to go the phero route then stick with the socials, IG IS IO and maybe IH. I have read that IH can lower social boundaries and this something i am noticing in myself.

See this thread for good info on IH IO IS.

The reason i am reluctant to recommend pheros to start with is that they can become a crutch rather than a helper. The use of alcohol and drugs when young has this effect in that a young person who uses these to overcome or hide from problems does not learn to deal with situation or emotional difficulties and thus when older and when trying to loose this dependency on drugs and alcohol they find themselves left with the same issues that had when young and what had caused them to use drugs and alcohol.

I am not saying that pheros are the same as drugs and alcohol but the concept is.

Between the age of 16 and 20 i had very bad acne but pulled the hottest girl in my friendship group, why? Because i made concious decision to just get out there and not hide, i used humour and bluff.

Humour is good way to get interaction with others (girls) and will boost your confidence in speaking to them which in turn makes you more attractive, pheros can help but you have to make the effort as well.

Ask yourself some questions about yourself, even put yourself in the shoes of the girls who don’t talk to you and see if you can work out why they don’t?

Being aware and taking steps to move forward is a half the journey.

Good luck

PS hope this was not long winded :slight_smile:

Great advice from all of the above. 12-15 is an extremely difficult age for anyone. I would advise against pheromones for the simple fact that during puberty and shortly thereafter your body is pumping out pheromones at a mad rate anyway, it hasn’t “sorted itself out” yet.

I was one of the chunkiest guys in my class at that age, yet two years later I was the tallest guy in the class and was down to a 32 waist. I stretched almost 7" in height. I was exhausted.

The best piece of advice I ever got in high school almost came too late to help: quit trying. I’m not saying give up, not by a long shot. But the main problem is most guys try too hard. This creates the anxiety and awkwardness and can lead to embarrassing situations. Just be yourself, and if you don’t get the particular girl you approach, hey, there’s more. And you’ve learned a little bit.

Another thing that can be a HUGE help is if you have a sister or female friend/cousin/friend’s sister etc. that is older than you by a few years that you can talk to. They are the BEST source at helping you “tune your game”. The closer they are the better, because they know the real you yet can easily see the person you’re putting forward.

I can tell you’re going to be all right, because you’re researching, looking for ways to improve yourself. You’re not wallowing, thinking there’s no way to improve, and you’re not egotistical. Right now pheromones are not the answer. Well, at least not lab created…

as a former teacher for at-risk teens i highly suggest you stay away from pheromones right now, as this will make your situation worse, not better.

at 14, you are going through too many changes,
and until these changes stabilize you are going to get mixed up,inconsistant outcomes.

is anyone else here answering
from this planet?

i promise
that at your age
your not supposed to have all the social skills down.
there are people here
much older than you
that still dont have all the social skills down, and thats okay.

in a few years,
your going to see some things in your life smooth out ,
and you will have better luck
with stuff like this.

right now stuff like this may just exaggerate any awkwardness that anyone your age (not you perosnally, but everyone that is 14) may be going through at times.

personality traits like seeing the good in others,
finding reasons to choose positive words and being uplifting,
are going to make people (including the chicks)
gravitate towards you
because they feel good around you.

being uplifting is the most charasmatic quality
any guy can have.

I can speak with you im also 14 :smiley:.

But indeed like Lor say’s If you already have a great personalty and not to shy you really don’t need it i guess . i bet you have lots of friends because you get complimeted about your personality. you just need to wait for your girl to see you :roll_eyes: ( if that’s what you want eh :wink: ) , And my instant shine is almost here , you will know if it isn’t good for me ^^

Great advice. HS was the longest 4 years of my life. Or at least it felt that way. IMO have fun. Don’t worry about all the drama, all the ignorance and bigotry. That’s how high schoolers are. Cliques, who’s cool, who does this, who does that, etc. It wasn’t the best 4 years of my life, but it wasn’t the worst either. I think self esteem, self confidence and a few good, close friends are the best thing to ask for at that age. Cause honestly, HS is an environment and society of it’s own.
If you HAVE to use pheromones, try Instant Shine, Instant Gentleman and Instant Openness/Honesty/CTTM. I’d say to wait a bit cause you’re already producing a lot of pheromones and there’s a lot of hormones coursing through your body making changes.
Keep in mind that shit changes fast in HS. Just like your body will at your age.

hi,
I am the opposite 41 !

My advice to you would be:

  1. Be yourself - you are enough as is.
  2. Excercise (this is good advice for me too!)
  3. talk to as many girls/women as possible

results will follow…

Dude, you’re 14, don’t worry about you’re girl problems as you have all of high school to develop your girl skills, just give yourself some time to come out of your shell! At your age girls can be unpredictable so all you have to do is talk to them, be flirty, make them laugh, and don’t be intimidated by them and your chances will greatly increase.

I would say to just use a bit of Instant Shine to make yourself and others feel good and the rest work on being your usual self (since you say you already have a great personality). Don’t rely on other things like pheromones yet as you don’t want to get used to other things doing the work for you, but rather push yourself at this young age to develop your personality! Shine will give you the edge you need, but the rest is up to you!

ps. Stay away from -none like it’s the plague, a 14 year old reeking of -none would freak the crap out of me!!!

Not to mention the 17 year old linemen from the football team.:open_mouth:

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Does it work? As long as you stay with the regular consumer products here, it is guaranteed. Or your money back.

$25. That’s $25 just for introducing yourself and telling your story. As you can see everybody is ready to help around here.

But… before you go … Pheromones are not going to make you Joe Smooth. Just like buying a hammer is not going to make you a carpenter. To become Joe Smooth, you need to commit your self to a long program of self improvement. Study human nature. Try to objectively observe your own behavior. Learn about human body chemistry - hormones and pheromones. Commit yourself to making your mind and body healthy.

What goes on between men and women is the mystery of the ages. If you become the fortunate one who finally figures this one out, please let me know.

Oh man, i figured that one out a long time ago OoohYahhh. Are you ready for the answer? The answer is: Chaos. Pure and simple. :roll_eyes: