Ok, let me start by saying that I am not stupid…I read Supreme Court cases, play chess, and I have a 145 IQ…that being said, I requested info on age versus dosing. Here’s the question…what is a “cougar” and what is a “jaguar”…
A cougar is an older woman who looks for a younger man to date or take home for the night. As in, a cat on the prowl. I would assume that a jaguar would be the opposite, an older man who looks for younger women.
So then my wife is a cougar…she’s 43, I am 30…so what’s a good dose for a 43 year old cougar?
JLove, you keep asking this question like theres some kind of magical formula… yes, age plays a factor. The older a woman is, the more -none she can handle. Yes, race plays a factor. It seems black women can handle more none than some other races. But we really can’t tell you “this amount of each spray will work like magic.” It’s all trial and error. You need to take some time and try each one out seperately, like we told you, and figure out what works on your wife. Yes, it may take 1-2 weeks for each product with proper testing, but that’s just the way it goes. Otherwise you’ll get random results, sometimes good, sometimes bad.
Kitten - young woman who likes older men
Puma - Under age 40 looking for young men
Cougar - 40 to 50 looking for young men
Jaguar - 50+ looking for young men
Feral cat - A fucked in the head woman of any age who gets involved with normal men for the express purpose of causing as much pain and anguish in the relationship as possible. A substantial number of the above are “feral cats”. At the first sign of anything hinting at an eating disorder or borderline personality disorder…dump with EXTREME prejudice.
cough I think someone has a few personal issues to work out regarding Feral Cats… 
LMFAO (laughing my fucking ass off)!!!
Unfortunately, I have alot of experience with that particular issue. I’ve learned the hard way that the ONLY way to deal with this is to get rid of the person. And, if you don’t, they WILL make you regret not doing so.
There’s a bunch of warning signs…diagnosis with personality disorder is right at the top of that list. More than extremely occassional drug use. Any sort of criminal record. Any involvement with people with criminal records, present or past, in any capacity whatsoever. Alcoholism. More than one divorce. Children from more than one person. Any involvement in any capacity whatsoever in the sex for money industry (stripping, working in bars as eye candy, etc.) Beyond a certain reasonable number of sexual partners. High risk partners.
There’s more…but that’s the gist. I consider the most important issue of relating to women is getting rid of the losers. And I’ve learned from bitter experience that giving someone the “benefit of the doubt” is a huge mistake, no matter what mitigating circumstances might be present. Everyone I know, exposed to similar crap has had the same experiences.
You’ve been warned…hehehe.
Well, most of those things could be a problem…but the children thing? Not everyone who has a child by someone before you is a lunatic.
No…but a woman who is having children by several different men, especially without marrying any of them, usually IS a lunatic. Especially if there is something wrong with the guy. For example, if some girl you are with starts telling you about her children’s father and how badly it ended, then it comes out that part of the reason it ended was one of the kids is by a different man, who is now in prison…well, that’s not a good thing. The more fathers, the more fucked up the circumstances, the worse it is.
Normal women avoid having children outside a stable marriage, like the plague. Shit happens though. Not every man turns out to be what she thought he was. But, if it’s happening again and again, usually, it’s because she’s seeking that crap out. And, unfortunately, a typical loser of this variety will have 3, 4, children with various men, none of which were ever long term interest material. Then, when she gets older, she seeks out a normal guy to support her demonseed brood while she turns into Roseanne Barr.
No thanks.
Also…never be afraid to say no to any woman for any reason whatsoever, whether you or (especially) anyone else think it’s unreasonable. Almost always, the person passing judgement on this is a manipulative asshole who either has no experience with the issue or, worse, knows damn well what the deal is and is steering you into disaster. In other words, if you decide to dump a girl, just becuase you find out she has kids or insitute a “no kids” rule for any reason, that is your right. Anyone who has a problem with it, especially the woman, can go fuck themselves. It’s your life and YOU decide the standards by which you live it and allow others to share it. A woman with kids is EXTREMELY unattractive. Has huge problems…perhaps insurmountable problems for the long term. Often, her kids means you won’t have room for your own kids. It’s OK to say no to that. Her kids are HER problem, not yours. You’re not put on the planet to take care of her. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that you are. Focus on what you want with a woman. You are either OK with it or you’re not. And it most definitely is OK if you’re not. If people don’t like it…tough. Most of them are clueless idiots who will never figure it out. Just be aware of this warning sign issue. It’s one thing to be OK with the kids. It’s quite another to be OK with that other stuff.
First off, I’m not bashing anyone here.
That being said, this is the second or third time I’ve seen people putting down or looking disparagingly upon women in the “exotic dancer” profession.
First off, if they solicit sex, then they’re not strippers or dancers, they’re hookers that can work a pole. The majority of respectable gentleman’s clubs will immediately fire a worker if they discover that they’re soliciting, on or off premise.
Second, I have known at least ten women that work/have worked at a gentleman’s club to pay their way through college. One of them is now a very successful physical therapist (and not in a between-the-sheets way), one is a dentist and yet another is a happily married mother of three working as a legal assistant.
Granted, not all exotic dancers have stellar morals. Many suffer from addictions of both the legal and illegal kinds, and many have less-than-desirable work ethics.
However, a great many of the women in that field ended up there because they were young, some guy knocked them up and split, leaving them with a kid and no professional skills. So they can flip burgers at McDonald’s for a whopping $6 an hour, lousy shifts and paying for day care, getting nowhere in life, or they can do like one friend of mine did, work at a gentleman’s club. She never had sex for money, I honestly don’t think she even had a boyfriend the four years she worked there. Her time was taken up by three things: work, college and her beautiful daughter. Her hours worked out so that her parents could watch the baby after they got home from work. She got her degree and is now working in a business office. Occasionally she’ll run into someone that recognizes her from the stage, and sure it’s awkward sometimes, but to her it’s completely worth it because her daughter is now well taken care of. Luckily, she did a “complete makeover” for the gentleman’s club (bleached hair, contacts, etc.) and has since gone back natural so recognition is rare.
I think that anyone that looks down on exotic dancers yet frequents gentleman’s clubs needs to take a good look at themselves. If they’re such lowlifes, why go drool over them? Sure, the occasional dancer may use that $20 for a line of coke, or she may need it to buy formula for her kid. Especially now, times are hard and many women would be hard-pressed to turn down the kind of money dancers make. I know a waitress at a gentleman’s club in Houston that routinely brings home $300-500 a night.
I have one friend that worked her way through college (bachelor’s), quit dancing and got a “respectable job”. She was back on stage in six months. Why? Her district supervisor made less money than she did working at the club, and he’d been with the company for 15 years. Now she has her Master’s, and is working on another Master’s in another field. She also has a very healthy 401k set aside, owns a Lexus (paid off), and will have her 4 bedroom house paid off before I have my used Nissan paid off. Her gameplan is to keep working at the club for a few more years, get everything paid off, and then possibly start her own advertising company without having to put a lien on anything for capital.
I’ll get off my soapbox now. Just remember, that girl in line at the grocery store tomorrow may dance on a stage and you wouldn’t even know it. They’re people trying to survive just like the rest of us, some of them with even less chances and options than we had, but they’re doing what has to be done to get by. We’ve all used our looks to get ahead (or attempted to), but they’re the ones getting the bum wrap for doing it.
An example of my experience with this issue.
I had a good friend of mine I met while working on my doctorate. By good friend, I mean someone I came very close to pursuing a sexual relationship with…but didn’t, for reasons that should become obvious.
She was a very nice girl and I liked her ALOT. It wasn’t until about a year after I met her that I found out she stripped for a living…to “put herself through college” and later, graduate school. She was very smart too (book smart at least). Other things I later found out about her…that she had been a coke head for many years. That she was a recovering alcoholic. Ten years working inpatient community mental health and I know those are problems…BIG problems. But, hey, she doesn’t do that stuff anymore.
One day, I come to class, flop my ass down, crack open my morning newspaper and front page headline is about a guy who is getting off on a technicality, on appeal for a murder he committed. Since he was caught riding around with a dead prostitute in the back of his van with an extension cord wrapped around her neck, I’m pretty sure he did it. Not according to his wife however…who happens to turn out to be my friend’s roommate…cough. She confides in me that he has been sending her sexually graphic drawings from prison, the last one with a letter saying how much he looks forward to seeing her again. Drama ensues.
Now…that is not the only fucked up thing I’ve come across with women like this. Just the worst…that demonstrates a pattern of behavior with these women. Who they hang around with. Why they do what they do.
They are nuts. Every last one of them. If you make excuses for them, then, that crap is going to become part of your life. If that’s OK with you, then that’s your choice. But understand that it is a packaged deal. I’m sure, somewhere, out there, there is a woman who is the exception. But, you know what…the stripper you are with…she’s not. Sooner or later, this issue is going to bite you on the ass if you dip into that scene. I’ve seen it before. Usually, the guy I know, getting into that, says some version of exactly what you say. Hell, my own brother did…and boy, did he regret it. When I told him about my own experiences, at the time, he said something VERY similar to what you just did. He had been working at that club and figured he knew what was up. He didn’t.
Bottom line…normal girls don’t do that. And there are plenty of normal girls just as hot, if not hotter than those types.
Look…all I am saying is that having high standards is a big part of relating to women. In my opinion, it’s the biggest part. And I suggested a few things to consider based on my experience and the experience of people I know. I’m not passing judgement so much as I’m suggesting something guys might want to consider if they haven’t run into these issues yet. And only because someone brought it up.
And I know guys have alot of resistance to stuff like that. You wouldn’t believe some of the crap guys have told me over the years about how their girl was different. My favorite was a good friend of mine who married a girl who traded sex for rent and heroin, while back in college. It took her 6 years to finish because she lost two, non-contiguous years strung out. But hey…she had “changed” and “didn’t do that stuff any more”. Three years later, he discovered that she was prostituting herself in exchange for drugs while he was out of town for work. She actually had a job and made more than him. When he confronted her on this, she basically told him, that she was going to do that now, and if he didn’t like it, he could divorce her. When he divorced her, she freaked out, acting like he had betrayed her in the worst way. They lost everything in an extremely rancorous divorce where she just absolutely refused to settle amicably, despite the no fault laws in their state. She actually attempted to break into his place late at night with a couple of hired thugs, during the worst part of it. Had to be dragged off by the cops.
Anyway…that’s something else to be aware of when you write responses like “blah, blah, blah…not all of them are like that, don’t be so judgemental etc.”. Denial is a big part of this issue and something every guy who has been burned by the psychos, smiles at, in the guys who haven’t…yet. Because we know…what’s coming. We’ve been there. And we get together with other guys who’ve been there…and laugh t how stupid we were.