Hey all. I’m wondering if there are any situations where wearing certain pheros would be a bad idea. I’ve heard that some kinds make children extra wild and crazy.
I’m guessing wearing Spaceland would be a bad idea if you’re an open heart surgeon or an air traffic controller, but are there any bad mixes that are a little less obvious?
Thanks in advance! 
LOL… Spaceland is bad for pilots 
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Turn Up The Heat is not good around kids, cuz it scares the sh*t out of them
Turn Up The Heat is not good in school… people get the wrong idea and look down at u
OD ing of Instant Female Magic at a funeral would be horrendous.
ODing on A314 at a Mafia meeting would be bad
(for all u contract killers ) dont where Ishine, or IO
Dont where Cops or -none around kids in general
bond
I would not wear spaceland piloting anything from what I have read, a couple people have already posted it is dangerous in a car.
My wife is bipolar so I have to be careful wearing just about anything around her. I have found that the female version of instant female magic works wonders on her. Anything with ~none however is definitely bad for her. So is a large dose of instant openness.
Turn up the heat is not something I would wear in a public place that does not have sexual overtones. Class, meetings, work all would be bad places for it. It might be the same for something with cops.. unless that is something your wanting to have happen.
Other than that I have not tested enough to give an opinion. I have read some posts on different mixes that did not turn out well.
Ponderu
I wear ridiculous amounts of cops to work, but I work in an environment where it’s not such a problem that it might be elsewhere.
Plus one of my TGs is at work. 
You were actually who I was thinking of when I said unless it is something you want to have happen 
Ponderu
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y? sounds kinda fun
bond
I bought P83.
Why is it bad to wear around people age 75 and older?
Y? P83 seems to make certain older people cranky. I wrote a thread on it a while ago. Called Two Little Old Ladies Tried to Fight Me.
Thanks, Kitten.
I bought P83 and P79 a few weeks ago. They both gave off this incredible, amazing vibe for about 25-45 minutes.
People were enveloped in this warm, golden glow and looked at me like I was some kind of angel. And then crankiness ensued. Directed at me. 
I’ve been hesitant to wear them out in public since then. I think these are stay-at-home products.
I’ve had the same problem with P83, Lillith, except I bypass the golden glow and move on straight to “please bitch at me” at 100mph.
What kind of dosages were you guys using? Do you get negative reactions around a certain type of person or age group only?
Jasmin, with the P83 I’ve tried both 12.5mcg and 25mcg. It seems to affect older people, but I mean people older than myself, ie. 40’s and up. People my own age (20’s) don’t seem to be affected by it one way or the other.
I still plan to continue testing this in some different settings.
From an old compilation post of mine (see below), P83 is well known to have an aggresive/agitative edge to it. Perhaps older people react more aggressively to it for some reason, though I definitely have seen younger people snap a bit with it on too (and so have some others)…
P83… a nice little empathogen
Carrie (November 19, 2006):
"…I do believe W was acted on by the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314). He is very permeable to environmental influence, sensitive and psychic, and he responds quite a bit to my vibe, whether it’s pheromonally amped or not. I think that he does have a naturally aggressive personality but it’s been damped down by circumstances and typically has only come out under pressure. For example, he was bullied as a kid, but morphed into a monster on the football field - all that adolescent rage found the perfect outlet!
**On ****Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314
King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open - #4 by sigma (King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open - #4 by sigma)
Sigma (January 22, 2007):
“…There’s defiantely an aggressiveness to P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314)…it isn’t really none-like, but high dose none+ high dose P83 definately doesn’t work out…”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #10 by sigma (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #10 by sigma)
Sigma (May 16, 2007):
“P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) has a strong none-like aggressive side to it. It created a lot of intimidation and agitation when I used it socially…”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #53 by sigma (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #53 by sigma)
Sigma (May 25, 2007):
“…**Its a tricky pheromone to use, and wouldn’t really recommend it outside of sexual mixes.
Very aggressive in a none like kinda way. It can have some nasty effects if used in the wrong setting. Really wouldn’t call P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) a mind bender…more of an aggressor.**”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #55 by sigma (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #55 by sigma)
Sigma (May 25, 2007):
“…The aggression could be reduced, but it would likely work to diminish the effect that you want from P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314). With P83, you want the aggression, even knowing that it comes with some strongly anti-social, anti-comfort type of effects. The benefit of P83 really seems to come from the lack of comfot …the tension, it creates. P83 to me seems to capture the highly ‘raw aggression’ of androstenone…the part that creates a lot of sexual intensity. That sense of aggression/agitation is also what we seem to try to buffer out when we use androstenone with social pheromones.
P83 seems to take the aggressive notes of androstenone further when the two are combined. Creates a whole lot of sexual tension that can really flip switches with women in the right context (based on my experience with that mix last night anyway). I don’t see this mix working too well in most social interactions, however. I experimented with P83 quite a bit when I first got it, concluding that it should stay out of most of my mixes. When the time and place is right though, it can work wonders.”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #61 by sigma (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #61 by sigma)
Sigma (May 28, 2007):
“…**Used socially, P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) seems to create a good amount of agitation…similar to none, but a bit different. To me P83 negative effects feel a lot like the agitation create by chikara.
It has an aggressive edge to it, and a sexual energy thats a lot like androstenone. The synergy between androstenone and P83 is excessive for most social situations, but used in straight sex mixes, the two work very well together. **Without going into too much detail, I had a very rare instance of the lady sniffing my neck (where I had applied Turn Up The Heat + P83, TAA + Androstadienone + P79), and within minutes she and I were going at it again. Good stuff.”
P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #41 by SteveO (P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #41 by SteveO)
SteveO (May 18, 2007):
“…P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) has a strange aggressive effect on other males. I tried unsuccessfully to talk to a guy about his laptop. He was standoffish and did not want to be bothered by me. I initiated several times and although he was a pretty big fella, he looked intimidated…”
My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #15 by SteveO (My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #15 by SteveO)
SteveO (October 1, 2007):
“…Then managers daughter employee came out and asked for help with garbage can. Big country, another friend who had joined us was pulling the bag while Navy was pulling the can. I yelled smack it, smack it harder and managers daughter employee hit me in the shoulder. I was kind of shocked at this as I gave her no reason too. She said she was sorry but I had offended her with my sexual remark!
I asked her what specifically she had taken from smack it (subsequently was totally said about the garbage can being stuck) did she take as sexual and even more so about her?
Side-note: She is not someone I find even remotely attractive. From what I understand from Pink and Sparkly she is super prudish.
Pink and sparkly had come outside for ten minute break and asked managers daughter employee why she hit me. Both my friends who were wrangling the garbage can were surprised too. Everyone agreed that my comments were about the garbage can and had absolutely nothing to do with her. She tried, all to no avail, to continue to blame it on my sexual innuendo directed at her. In fact she wasn’t around for my conversation with any of the other girls. I may be a PUA, but as such I am discreet when I am talking to women.
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) has some very sexually aggressive undertones that can be mistaken by some. Especially those that you are not interested in still have the tendency, even when no suggestions to substantiate their claims, to validate your sexual desire for them. This can be a negative aspect of the molecule. I will continue to try and buffer this with some other molecules.
Feedback is appreciated.”
My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #19 by SteveO (My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #19 by SteveO)
SteveO (October 2, 2007):
“…As far as the agitation side I have noticed apprehension in some instances, but not outright aggression. However, that being said, the managers daughter employee did strike me. I’m not sure if that can be taken in the context of aggression from the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314), or another theory I have been going over is maybe because I wasn’t paying her any attention she became upset. It really has me thinking about it and why she was so angry over something that didn’t occur…”
P74, P79, P83, P88 - #15 by May (P74, P79, P83, P88 - #15 by May)
May (July 5, 2007):
“P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314)
Havingseen Steveo post that his woman responds to high doses of P83 I coated myself with a humongous 75 mcg this evening . I also thought if I piled it on I would notice the effect and could then reduce if necessary before using it on public or with the Mystery Boy
I used a 12.5 mcg to go spray in standard fragrance
One spray to each side of the neck
Two sprays to the chest
One spray to each wrist
**Initially it wasn’t great. I was reading and sitting there frowning with a of tension headache across the top of my eyebrows and, yup, I was grumpy. So, I stuck my wrists to my nose and huffed the stuff as hard as I could to see where it took me.
It’s actually quite strange, because for a while (about 15 mins) the angry mood and the headache lifted and it felt kind of warm and fuzzy, comforting with the merest tinge of sexual frisson.
But then I was back to scowling and having a headache. For some reason this gives me a bit of a short fuse and makes my head hurt - at least at this dose it does.**
**
It also seems to have a very detrimental effect on my ability to hit the right keys on the keyboard.
I’ll try it again at a lower dose, but a high dose definitely makes me a bit moody.**
Best
May”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx101-p83-a314-p74/4517/3
May (July 6, 2007):
“I can kind of understand this. If only from the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) part. P83 in large doses (75 mcg) makes me combative , then comfortable, then grumpy.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/16
May (July 6, 2007):
“P83
I have been wearing 25 mcg of P83 today and that is totally different from the overdose level stipulated above - where I tried 75 mcg…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440/22
May (August 19, 2007):
“…High dose of P83 made me irritable and gave me a headache…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-latest-results-of-p83-disturbia-dementia-erotica/5792/26
May (October 3, 2007):
“Hi all
**I must admit I find the reports of “aggressive tension” when p83 is initially applied fairly understandable.
When I applied 75mcg of p83 it made me very grumpy and irritable.** I had to drop to a much lower dose to get a pleasant self-effect. I think Tisha also reported that it worked better for her at lower doses too.
So experiencing tension either from yourself or from others straight after a dose of 60mcg makes sense to me.
May”
Two Little Old Ladies Tried to Fight Me!! The Strange Effect of P83 (Two Little Old Ladies Tried to Fight Me!! The Strange Effect of P83)
Kitten (December 6, 2007):
“ Two Little Old Ladies Tried to Fight Me!! The Strange Effect of P83
I like P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314). Every so often I wear one or two 5 mcg sprays along with my various combos. All good so far. With P83 I’m flirtier, and the men in my life love my extra-minxy attitude. Other women joke around with me and I get lots of smiles reflected back to me.
**There’s just one thing. Little old ladies hate me. Under normal circumstances they ignore me or are polite. But twice now while wearing P83, I’ve been harangued by seemingly sweet 70+ little old grannies.
One flipped out on me for being five minutes late to an appointment with someone else (the appt wasn’t even with her!)–going on and on and on. And on. About consideration for others. I agreed with her in principle, but she seemed to need to make her point again and again, heedless of anything I said.
The other lady took great offense at a quip I made to her husband. I can’t remember exactly what I said, but my non-flirting humor with strangers is always PG *and *fairly PC. We were in line at Walgreens and I had to deal with this irate woman all the way up to the register. “That was not a funny joke! You should be sorry to insinuate such a thing!! That is not something to joke about!!”
At first, people around us were glowering at me like I must have made some sort of obscene or terroristic threat to get her so upset. But after a bit of me using my “dealing with difficult people” appeasement skills, everyone–including the husband–just looked embarrassed.
With both ladies, I finally had to turn away and totally disengage because neither of them was about to stop on her own.** So I guess this is a little warning. Next time you’re volunteering at the retirement center or visiting your Great Aunt Esther, might want to skip the P83.
Best,
Kitten”
Somebody stop me! A girl OD on P83? - #15 by Kitten (Somebody stop me! A girl OD on P83? - #15 by Kitten)
Kitten (January 2008):
“50 MCG (Microgram - Wikipedia) P83…**When thwarted in any way, I got mad all out of proportion. So did other women around me. At the restaurant, a lady at a table nearby got ever so irritated that she couldn’t have her hibiscus iced tea. And would not let it go.
Later back at work, I felt positively murderous when I tried to print out a document on the group printer, only to find that the toner needed replacing. I banged around the storage cabinets trying to find another cartridge and the team admin came in to see what was the matter. When I told her, she too became incensed. Not really proud of that reaction, but it happened**…”
I try not to wear pheromones when I’m visiting the zoo. Or when I go camping. I don’t want to attract the wrong kind of animal if you know what I mean.
yeah i too had a horrible aggressive experience with an asian girl when she was exposed to p83 [25mcg]/ p79 [20mcg]
I think people get cranky when exposed to P79 and especially P83 in social or work settings because you can’t consummate the deal.
I think these products would work best for relationship mixes when you can get a good vibe going and then act on it.
Omg, this sounds gross but I swear I attract little flying critters when I wear a lot of pheros. Also birds. The weather’s really warm, don’t know if that has anything to do with it. I’m gonna where my pheros only in the evening and at night until the weather cools down.
Lol, I don’t want to attract anything else either, so what pheromones are big animal friendly? Nol and rone?