toil: I agree with you.. I’m sorry to see that this perfectly innocent thread has become rather heated. Have a rep point for standing up for yourself
My personal reason for trying copulins was also that I wanted to give them a go for myself. I do not believe other people’s experiences translate well to myself, and I often feel that people see what they want/expect to see in their pheromone use - I wanted to see for myself what each one would or would not do.
I’m vary wary of these biological/scientific explanations for pheromone influences. I’m a neuroscientist, and when I was first training I often found that seemingly obvious explanations for neurological phenomena can turn out to be frighteningly over-simplified compared to the truth - for this reason, I do not accept the fact that only women produce copulins naturally to mean that they cannot be used productively by men.
Ail: I respect your opinion on this so would be interested to know some examples of products you consider definitely DO (as opposed to MIGHT) work for men? In my (admittedly very limited) experience, I have found no products to be significantly more positive in their effects than copulins, and am still wondering whether people are just reading what they see on the label into people’s behaviour…
I whole heartedly support you making a guinea pig of yourself. The more knowledge that is available the better.
From reading the boards, I seem to gather that cops are more oriented for an Instant Jerk sort of vibe. Not my style, or my scene, but if you can play the part, I know that any number of pretty girls dig it.
tru thanks tish for correcting i must have mis read it last night, i think im gonna hold off on buying cops just yet. but i see alot of men have had good luck using instant sexiness so im looking into trying that. but i would really like to know what new products androtics is coming out with in the near future
Although I know that several women have forcefully argued that copulins on a guy would be or is a turn off, I want to point out that, for the most part, we think of pheromone responses at the subliminal level - pheromones themselves do not get noticed by the target.
Because pheromones go in “under the radar” I do not think that the target, either woman or man, usually knows about the pheromones. The target MAY be aware of their own response, or may not.
If a man wears copulins, and the target woman does not overtly smell copulins, and is therefore NOT aware of the smell of cops on the man, I do not see how that speculative vociferous strong negative reaction can happen. How can she get all upset, if there is nothing she is aware of that should make her upset?
And, even if she does get turned off or cranky, as long as she is unaware of exactly why she had that reaction, I can’t see a long term bad thing for the guy who tries copulins on a woman.
If the reports are true, sometimes copulins on a guy can work quite well. I tend to think that these target women DID respond, at least somewhat, to the copulins. Because pheromones go in under the radar, I do NOT think that anti-slut-defenses ASD or ordinary jealousy will stop a woman from responding, or even cause a woman to react negatively to un-noticed copulins on a man. Lipstick or perfume on a shirt - now that is a different matter, BECAUSE it is overt.
I say if a guy wants to try them go for it, Thats what this forum is all about experimenting with mones and sharing your results.
I agree that they go under the radar. I dont think if someone smells them they will say to themselves " Boy he smells like a whoo whoo " Just as when women wear anone products or A314 people dont think they smell like a mans BO. When I say minimal results thats not saying no results. I think since all women are attracted to different types of people it could be beneficial to try them at some point.
We get them there because androtics dosnt sell a Pure cop product yet.