Hi all. I haven’t used much pheromones lately because well frankly im a bit of a shut-in. Im working on that. However im going on vacation next week to the grand canyon which im sure will provide many more opperunities for pherimone testing. I will try to make sure to not to use it when im hiking but you never know and I want to minimise any attracting of bears, or snakes, or unwanted attention from any horses people may be riding on the trail. I realise in theory all pherimones should attract animals, but im wondering in practice do certian ones attract animals less than others?
Animals release pheromones all the time, this is how they know how to mate, how to find food, how to know if certain mates are suitable or not. You don’t suddenly find yourself wanting to mate with a moose when they’re in heat right? It’s pretty much the same thing with human pheromones it’s made for human interaction. I know that studies are not complete and there are probably certain circumstances where there will be exceptions for in general I doubt there would be any problem with that.
The repellant qualities of certain pheros has formed a large part of my work for the last few years and we have identified several that affect/or potentially affect different species of animal and insect.
However, these are now under a commercialisation agreement or have been picked-up by other researchers since we wound-up this work, so I can’t say much more FTM.
However, I’ve not seen any of them discussed here yet. 
Human Phermones do not attract animals to you. They have a different purpose in the wild.
They will signal something about your personality so take the horse for instance which is more used to human contact. If your wearing IJ he may not like you much. If your wearing Ishine they get a kind, warm signal so they may react better to you. Be more calm around you. A little bit of masculine mones probably would be fine or even something like A314 which indicates the alpha of the pack. Just dont over do those.
Your pheromone signal will also alert animals to your presence and you cant avoid this because they can smell your natural signature from miles away. This is good and bad. Most animals will avoid you and if they smell a human they will go away. Predators however may smell prey so they may come to do a visual to check it out.
The Grand Canyon has one major predator. Mountain Lions, Generally they dont attack adult humans unless you go near their young, corner them, startle them or they are sick. Once they have a visual of you they will try to avoid you. If you see one calmly back away, if it seems to interested in you then wave your arms over your head and yell. They usually high tail it out of there. Actually they will smell you coming better with your mones on so you probably wont see them. Keep in mind they will see small children as prey though so if kids are coming dont let them wander far.
I am not a reptile or scorpion expert but I dont think they are attracted to mones. They are attracted to the heat of your body. Just watch where you walk and where you put your hands. Check your pack and anything else you left on the ground good before you put it on.
I dont recall there being any bears in the G.C. They like the woods better then the desert but most will avoid you. My family has a farm upstate and we see a lot of bears. My mones never attract them but the blueberry bushes do. We just yell at them and wave our arms and they go away. Pisses them off though LOL. Grizzly bears are a whole different story but they dont hang in the grand canyon either. If you go to Yellowstone park take a big gun LOL (just kidding) snort 
Oh since we are on the subject of animals. Domesticated animals like your pets know you partly by your pheromone signature. So dont sneak up on your dog wearing mones they have never been exposed to before. They wont recognize you until they have a visual but they will smell a stranger approaching and could react badly. I have had my moms dog lunge at me even though she knows me well and Lor had the same problem with her dog. Once they got a visual and heard our voices they were fine though. After they have been exposed to the pheromones they know its you so they pay little attention to it.
Tisha
LOL this reminded me, I was wearing alot of IG one time must of been about 4 sprays and went to go pick up a pizza from dominoes down the road. When i walked into the shop there was a blind guy with his (Blind,Aid,Helpful?) dog you know the ones who make sure the poor guy doesn’t walk into a pole or out onto the road during peak hour traffic. Anyway i looked at the dog and thought “Awh how cute” then i noticed a fearful look in the dogs eyes straight away i thought it possibly was the IG and in the wild looking directly at another male animals eyes is usually an indicator of wanting conflict or something along those lines.. can’t quite remember 100%. Anyway sad as it is (Don’t hold me to it) i thought id see what happens so i kept staring at the dogs eyes and it started to cower away from me and hide behind its human companion, I kept staring then the dog freaked out and tried to make a run for it. It was somewhat amusing watching the blind guy swear and curse at his dog when it was constantly yanking at the leash trying to get away from my presence lol
Also another time i had a dog constantly sniffing me, cant remember what i was wearing that time though
thanks for the info. ive heard of pharomones effecting animals in wierd ways, but that probably has more to do with cheap pharomone colnes using pig sweat or deer urine.
they tell the animal about your temprement? that is interesting. kinda like how dogs seem to have a sixth sence about people? I can see that.
I didnt think about the possibility that they could smell you from farther away and make sure to stay out of your way.
Actually, snakes and lizards are attracted to pheromones. When they flick their tongues in and out of the mouth they are gathering chemical cues from the air and transferring them to sensory receptors inside of their mouth. That’s how they tell male snakes from females. Male snakes can actually purposely manipulate their own pheromone signature to that of a female snake in an effort to throw off their mating competition.
Unless the TC is wearing female snake pheromones though they wouldn’t be attracted and usually do their best to avoid humans the same as any other large predator.
ok so im leaving tomorrow so this is probably going to be my last post for awhile. Ive decided to take some shine and a bottle of instant gentleman since those are the only bottles I have that have more than a couple of drops left except for my 347 which im saving for job interviews. looks like im going to have to order some more soon. Im thinking about getting some more ammo and openness, or mabye some cttm.
Human pheromones are different from reptilian pheromones. Same as bees releasing pheromones from their Nasonov glands to alert the rest of a swarm, just like ants release pheromones to form a chemical trail, just like an animal in heat releases mating pheromones. There are over 10 different types of pheromones that either sound danger, for mating, for all other forms of primal communication. Could they have relation to each other? Yes absolutely, but the likelyhood of your dog not coming to you because you’re wearing Instant Jerk is little, just as smokey the bear isn’t going to tell you his life story because of Instant Honesty.
I’ve had clear reactions from cats and horses… the funniest was TAC on a cat… actually the TAC was on me, the cat began behaving in laughable, almost cartoonlike ways… I’ve never seen behaviors like that in a normal cat before… in horses, mares and their foals have come right up to me (w/ androstadienOL) as if I were another horse and wanted to cluster around me…
Oh yeah I understand completely. It just seemed that in Tisha’s post she was saying that mountain lions, etc. could detect your pheromone signature but snakes can not when actually snakes and other reptiles such as lizards detect pheromones just as well as mammals.
Human pheromones won’t have the same effect on animals of course but they still have the ability to detect them as their senses are far superior in that respect. That’s why you hear things about animals being able to “sense fear”, etc. Like Tisha said, mountain lions actually avoid humans and your mone signature will only give them more reason to.
The TC should be more concerned about attracting ‘cougars’ then mountain lions 
Every time I wear Ammo, I get buzzed by red wasps if there are any around.
They are naturally attracted to me anyway, but Ammo makes it a little worse.
I like Puma’s myself
No I said I was not a reptile expert so I didnt know. Like other wild creatures they are probably alerted by other species pheromones but I dont think they will attract them to us as they do other humans. Most bugs and reptiles are more eager to avoid you then they are attracted to you. Yes they can bite but thats usually in defense.
Domestic animals do react and its funny sometimes. The horses on my families farm are very sensitive to them and depending on what your wearing snub you or be more drawn to you. I noticed when wearing TAH the colts become protective and even if people get to close to me they will place themselves between me and the person like they are being protective. It actually gets annoying.
My female cat hates copulins LOL She gets very animated if I leave the bottle out. Even formulas that just contain copulins. She seems to get insulted by its presence., She will swat at the bottle and try to get rid of it and wants nothing to do with me if I have them on.
My male cats Arch and Theron also get protective when I use TAH they hover around me and insist on sleeping right on top of me as if they are protecting me.
Tisha
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I think we’re confusing attracting with attraction is this topic. Wearing pheromones in the wild will not cause a female mountain lion to come mate with you. But will simply alert the animal to your presence.
Like Tish stated, you could wash yourself quite thoroughly and not wear a single product and I can assure you that almost any creature living in the wild can and will smell you coming. And unlike humans, the animals are more inclined to act on instinct with little conscious thought reigning it in. So depending on if a particular animal considers humans to be dangerous trouble to be avoided or a tasty snack it will act accordingly. The signal our pheromones communicate however won’t work on most animals. It doesn’t tell them I’m nice, social, shy or anything like that. It might communicate at most that I’m a human male and maybe how fit and strong I am.
Side note, back when I was kickboxing I was following a diet called the Anabolic Diet to make weight. It’s basically a variation of the Atkins diet that calls for a high fat, moderate protien and extremely low carb intake to stimulate ketosis and burn off bodyfat. (works like a charm) but this meant the diet was basically meat. I lived on steak, bacon, fish, chicken and ham for two months. When I went to the zoo I noticed reactions ranging from nervousness to panic from herbivores and territorial aggression from carnivores. I didn’t really understand at fiirst why the animals were acting the way they did but in hindsight it would seem my diet caused my body chemistry to give off the signal of a predator. I was competition to the big cats, and a threat to the hooved animals and most apes. Likewise I imagine people that follow vegetarian and vegan diets would probably be well received by herbivores but seen as potential prey by predators.
Actually pheromones will convey some of those signals and animals can process them.
They know more about you then most humans know about them when it comes to pheromone signaling.
They can smell when your afraid. If your mean or cruel they usually know it even if you try to hide it. They know if your kind or nice. They know when your hurting. Unfortunately these are attributes they dont consider if they plan they want to eat you. So smelling like a nice guy or a mean guy wont make much difference
ok so im back from the grand canyon, and bryce, and zion, and hoover dam etc… I wore IG and IO in various ammounts totaling to 4 sprays moastly in my hair and on my chest. I didn’t see many animals at all actualy, except for a bunch of brave chipmunks the day I forgot to wear pherimones but im prety sure that has more to do with how much they get fed by tourists in the area I was at. We didnt have time to do much hikeing in any one area because there was a lot to see and not enough time to see it all so we never got that far from populated areas.
I did notice however we had verry good service at restaruants all week. Many times I noticed my family engaging the waiters and waitresses in friendly chit chat which doesnt happen verry often. in particular I noticed at jacobs lake inn our waitress seemed a bit stressed and zoned. The more time she spent at our table I could see her relax and open up. Also at a wings restaruant in utah I said “sounds good” to somebody while the waitress was at the table and after that “sounds good” was the only thing she would say to us.
I didnt get to talk to many tourists. most of them werent speaking english anyway. There werent too many people at our hotel because I think it was going bankrupt. The one day I realy got to talk to a lot of people happened to be the day I forgot to wear my pherimones. That day we had to ride a shuttlebus to view Zion park. I made sure to not sit next to my family so when the bus gets full someone would have to sit by me. I met an attractive young german lady and a female college student from kazikstan amoung others. I guess context is just as important to meeting new people as what pherimones you are wearing. I probably would have been better served by some more social pherimones at this trip but I worked with what I had.