Why being the "nice guy" never works....READ THIS

I used to be the typical “nice guy” and now I know better. Read this to find out what not to do, and what you can do to improve yourself and get out of the “nice guy” and “friendship zone”, and move into the wanted zone.

Dating Question: Can a Guy Be Too Nice? – Yahoo! Personals

i recommend this article from good ol’ dave deangelo - it explains the social dynamics a bit more:

http://www.datingformenandwomen.com/david-deangelo-being-a-wussy.html

its the truth women would never tell you - but i don’t think any women could disagree if she is honest…

I agree with both articles.

But is this really all that different from what men want? Do men want a woman who is fakey nice to them in an obvious ploy to get/keep their attention (pretending to like his interests, e.g. football when she really hates it)? Do men want women who give up all of their power and self esteem? Who say yes all the time, no matter what? Who chase their subway train waving goodbye?

I dunno Xev, you’ve seeded a few mines in the above example. If a woman is making an genuine attempt to get/keep a guys attention, it’ll turn him on to no end, obvious beats subtle cuz we sometimes miss subtle . Fakey nice no.

She need not pretend to like something she doesn’t, but if she has to pretend in order to accept his love of football he’s not going to mind.

Give up all power and self esteem, no, most guys don’t really like marshmallows.

She should say yes most of the time. :smiley:

Chase the train waving goodbye? Absolutely…just once anyway. Probably wouldn’t want you to make a habit of it though. What would the neighbors think.:roll_eyes:

I’ve tried to be a little light hearted and teasing here. I do think though that when guys in general think of “the game” they want to see it as having a resolution. Games in a guys world start with the whistle and end with a win or draw. The too nice guy forfeits in hope of finding that resolution. Women see that as submissiveness.

If it’s the other way around and the woman forfeits, the guy may see it as a win.

Well the thing is that its not being nice or being a jerk that makes women attracted to you. Its CONFIDENCE! Confident people give out interesting aura. Both confident women and men attract a lot of people.

no one wants a bowling ball to carry through life.

On the other hand, many men and women wish for a love that would cause them to run after a train.

Thanks for the links revivia & magnum :slight_smile:, it was very interesting & informative & yes all that is true, nice guys finish last sadly. Girls want badass guys nowadays :wink:

Np man. I found the links very informative as well. Sharing is caring :stuck_out_tongue:.

Let me see it I can add something here,

Nice guys are not the prize.

Perhaps I should expand on that.

Nice guys are not the prize.

Maybe I can clarfiy that.

Nice guys are not the prize.

Am I communicating?

OoohYahhh

hrmmmmm, guess I should be a bit more of an ass

But, when all is said and done what is left, the nice guys, why? Because all the jerks are gone, because well, they’re jerks. :slight_smile: Tease, don’t be an ass. :wink:

Dominick

Lol, I think jerks and asses more or less have a greater pool to choose from, so if they are unhappy, they say NEXT! :smiley: “Nice guys” are left with no choice but to stick around and “hope” things will turn for the better with the relationship, and just maybe he’ll get “lucky” and land a better/hotter girl for him. :wink: Just my 2 cents.

I find that I’m not interested in anything but the game. That aggravating ambiguity is more interesting to me then an actual manifestation of effort. When obvious displays of affection are displayed then it is no longer mysterious, and therefore no longer interesting. Struggle is the nature of relationships, people who have partners whom happen to be “jerks” complain that they want them to be more sensitive or nice, but once that happens, or they already have that and they want the former, there is a 180 shift in thought processes.

The mind is stimulated by ambiguity, yet to much can lead to boredom, focus on that ambiguity, because that is what people are truly drawn to. Confidence is merely an outlet of such.

Like my generalizations, which neither help nor hinder? Of course you do! (See what I mean?) :wink:

Dominick

You’re spot on. Amguity, spontenuity, being unpreditable, confident, flirty, sexual to an extent is what wins. :smiley: Being a tad bit of an ass, and some jerkness helps too.

That comes with the territory doesn’t it :slight_smile::wink:

Very true. Practice makes permanent, and perfect practice makes perfect. :wink: