Im trying to buy A1 for a crushing effect but i can get access to it 
, if its not available to me how can i get the sames crushy/romantic effect? im starting to date a 21 latin girl, i have only TUTH, AMMO SE and A314 in my arsenal and im willing to buy p83, TUC, and dont know if buying mx412, 413 should be a good idea instead of a1.
Thanks!
There are places will sell you A1. IIRC, someone has a patent on A1 use restrictions. A314, oil or spray, two doses (~= 2 drops), 16 hours exposure to target broken over approx 2 weeks. That should be all you need. And Game. That and attraction. No attraction, no fallout. Big attraction, bigger fallout. I’ve done some journal posts on this. Another coming. It’s not -eRone, or -eNone, or beta nol. It’s not P74 (although P74 does have a slight crushy/boyfriend quality). It’s not P83. Or a partridge in a pear tree. I will do more tests with the oil and an experimental molecule in coming months. Spray hits quite hard though…but wicks through the bottle (sealed with waterproof tape) like nitroglycerin through dynamite paper. What in the wide world of sports EO or fixative they put in that is beyond me. 
If you want A1 go to one of the many firms who sell it - most of whom are to be found in discussion here. MX412/3 do simulate some of A1’s properties very well but they don’t do the crushy thing. You will find better alternative combos in the various fallout threads,
Also read K-Train’s superb “A1 Guide” thread before you even get started. A1 is not a beginners phero, it can have marked negative self effects and overuse in a mix can flatten other components to the point of near uselessness.
MMD - I think the patent on A1 in scented products expired/lapsed a couple of years ago, hence the proliferation of vendors now offering A1 mixes compared to a few years back.
Makes sense. I know Michael H. was rather vocal (or Jasmin/both). Runs contrary to Androtics goals to sell anything that really has such a potential for down moods. I used to like washing my hair with that Dial stuff. Only thing it’s good for. You get a tiny bit of mone residual in your hair. Never bothered me. Seemed like a sweet spot is quite tricky…like cops, hard to work with. Useful, but can backfire badly when poorly understood or in novice hands. -eNone, P83, -eRone can ruin your day if you don’t understand them. Understanding is not gained quickly. 
Thanks Mnsmededoit! i did a little research and found where i can get it, ill do as you tell and use two drops of a314, Well there’s attraction(no doubt), but im taking the next step, any other combo in mind, sure its going to night play. Ill read your journal and see what else i can do thnks again
OK ill read Mobo thanks for the advise! so there’s not a solution for that negative effects? it happens to everyone or just some persons?
There are several solutions - some of which will affect/alter A1’s properties to differing degrees and yes, not all guys suffer - so it is important to do a little work with the A1 alone to find out your situation/limits before taking it out in anger.
Another thing to remember is that posts here on any mixes involving A1 will not count towards your RU status, which is a shame because it is a very worthwhile thing to attain.
I am as reasonably sure as I can be that A314 has the specific molecule that is responsible for fallout/crush. It also tends to cause the “Awe” effect (like an audience with the King) in a way P75 and androsterone does not (by itself). Even though 314 is said to be 80 androsterone, that is not it. Read whatever you can about the Reticular Activating System. Read every post Michael Harris ever wrote from 2005. Find out why IH is a fallout product but beta nol alone likely is not. Then, read every post Tisha23 ever wrote from 2007> discussing IH and beta nol. This process will lead you to the answer. I have tried to strike a balance between the practical reality of proprietary information in the pheromone industry and a duty to report. Those with the requisite mones experience will test and report themselves. Or, I could be a witless sod…in which case the data will fall apart. Every significant thread on the board, if SteveO posted to it, I’d recommend reading his posts as well. Because he gave the answer to the fallout mystery a dozen times.
P74 can help induce a crush like feeling.
They make that crush face, I know because I got it from one of my guy friends too lol. It seemed sort of like adoration not admiration which I get with A314. People have blatantly called me james bond or mr GQ on several occasions with A314. P74 I’m assuming can be a good mix with A314 unfortunately I’m all out of a314 and accidentally thought p102 was a314 togo so was doing that and p74 instead. It was still good but no idea what p102 is.
Be careful with A1, it can be so depressing if not mixed correctly but women feel awesome and love you. Life is funny.
MMDI’s posts and observations about the “fallout” have me intrigued for quite a while now.
I’ve not yet used the suspected molecule isolated or apart from others and it’s quite a while ago that I used mones specifically to try to achieve fallout.
But when I did, I found that A314b-spray in combination wit IH always hit the hardest, even more than my then favourite of A314 + A1.
So this might encourage MMDI’s findings. TA(X) it might well be
Here’s what I think can be proved:
Except for the issues with Rev. 31, no one has credibly disclaimed the value of 314 for fallout or of 314 + IH. Beta nol has not been consistently shown to add to the effect to the degree of IH. P74 is effective but has drawbacks around males. I have not been able to validate the BNOL + 314 = crush. I don’t see it for now. The addition of one or two molecules should enhance the fallout effect of 314 per dose by as much as 50%? This is the Holy Grail of LTR seduction. If ever a bottled oil or spray in a single product screamed “Make Me,” this is it. Make the 314 High Fallout Edition. Make the oil. I think this is the big one. The One Androtics was destined to make. Fallout314. People will beat down the electronic doors for it.
Still, A1 is a valid mone for LTR’s or to help getting there with a desired subject. It can improve/provide feelings of comfort and security around the wearer, both rather crucial to establish relationship. No use of a fallout, if you can’t live up to the initial impression it imparts.
Would be a nice and worthwhile thing to explore if, how and how much A1 would benefit FALLOUT314, AD’s new figurehead-product 
I still remain unconvinced about it being a single molecule - the variance between the effects/strength/nature of different fallout combos and that some are more suitable for professional/nonsexual fallout or are at least much harder to steer in a sexual/romantic directon than others. This all suggests some kind of synergy between a number of molecules to me. Change one or more components and the properties move along with them.
Then there is A1, which stands right apart from the rest as a single molecule with a raft of fallout/crushy/comfort (physical and emotional)/affectionate properties all its own that have a more definite yearning/romantic feel and whilst some combos (eg IH/P74 or MX412/3) can replicate some of them, they can’t emulate the whole package - so it sits in a class of its own.
Although saying that, I do agree that one molecule could be a very important nexus for the differing effects in different combinations and I hope I’ll be in a much better position to do some more work on that one soon. 
Like any complex reaction there are probably a slew of chemicals and variables involved in the crush effect however it has been repeatedly demonstrated that A314 and A1 are the best at inducing this effect. I have a couple ideas why.
For A314 there are SOOOOO many chemicals in it we don’t know however we DO know that combined those chemicals tend to raise the person’s value. Fallout is essentially when a target develops one-itis over the user and begins bending over backwards. I’m sure there are lots of men (and perhaps women) who remembered that person way back when who they fell head over heels for and ended up catching one-itis over. You basically put a lot of value into that person which causes the sometimes beta or submissive behavior. If this sounds confusing this thread –>The "A314 Stalker Effect": A314/MX102 and female obsession will explain my point more clearly.
A1 is a little more straight forward because it’s a single molecule with loads of research behind it. Now scientifically it’s been proven that A1 tends to increase a person’s sensitivity to emotional stimuli. Now add in the fact that A1 probably the most reliable female relaxer and you can kinda see how it might induce that crushing feeling. Essentially, A1 primes targets and makes it easier for you to make a memorable impression and also might explain why A1 mixes well with some other mones in reasonable quantities. THIS, IMO, is also why so many A1 users report a “lingering” effect to A1 where the woman exposed will still treat them well even if they go mone-less. Unfortunately, this might also be why some men report a longing for an ex or experience increased affection towards a particular woman bordering on one-itis.
Another molecule that is reported to cause a crushing effect is P83. Now here’s the thing about P83: it’s a putative and until Androtics tells us the real name all effects are speculative however P83 benefits from a large amount of (anecdotal) evidence and testing most of which identifies it as a disinhibitor and as an emotion intensifier. Now if you read around, you’ll see some users (me included) who say P83 plays well with A1 and helps with the crush/falling in love effect. Well remember that A1 increases sensitivity to emotional stimuli and add in P83’s ability to intensify emotions while simultaneously making that person more willing to act on those emotions you can probably see why P83 and A1 make such a good team.
Again, as Mobo and others have alluded to, there is no one thing that does it, however I believe A314, A1, and P83 achieve e crush effect in the ways I just described.
I think this was all covered in Commander Kotov’s legendary “Nuclear fallout” thread, and this theme has been round the block a few times.
But now there are 2 shortcuts. If you’re just looking for androstadienone, then look for CohesionXS, which is well buffered against depression effects; a harder-hitting (ie. less buffered) version is also available - Crush XS.
The other shortcut is to accept the 2 years of hard work that Mustang put into developing a “crush” mix, which is now available in one bottle. Look for XiSt. The big problem with this is that people can’t help meddling with what is already a well-balanced and refined product, and they add other stuff that upsets the effect. It should only be used on it’s own, and only needs one to two sprays. Done. Nothing else.
The only limitations of XiSt are that it needs repeated exposures over a period of time to be effective, and some people complain that it is not “alpha” enough. But that’s the whole point. It’s the stealth fighter of the pheromone world.
Just my 2C.
TBH, all crushy/fallout mixes depend on repeated exposure/removal cycles to develop to their fullest extent. So its not just XiSt there and the main reason people fail with fallout mixes is that they expect too much too soon and fail to continue with them long enough.
It may just be the anesthetic affects still fogging me but has anyone ever tried making a P83 oil? A314 and A1 suit oils better than sprays IMO and I was wondering if oiling P83 may modify its response/diffusion in the all the right ways to support crush/fallout mixes best?
No one less than Steve has a sounder appreciation for certain exotic molecules (not A1). However, these XiSt and Crush remain in beta. They aren’t warranted as yet and their molecules aren’t yet disclosed. I am satisfied he truly has a firm grasp in products like Ascend. Some molecules are better than others. He should strongly consider hiring a grad student (chem/physics) intern. I am not. A trade out for product would probably do it.
One of my challenges is that I run across some highly skilled pheromone testers, but if I ask them what my avatar is, they’re lost. Or like what’s an enantiopure synthesis. Or conjugated metabolites of androsterone. Or whether pheromone diffusion from the skin is diabatic. I’m still very encouraged with Steve’s progress. I think he has a good future.
It always seemed like a volatile alcohol to me, like alpha nol is a steroid alcohol. Only a few hours longevity. Merely adding DPG and EO to the spray might make it hit a bit less hard and last longer. Less chance of OD. However, I confess a lack of expertise with oils. Case in point: no tape I use stops the 314 spray wicking through the closed bottle. The pure P83 crystal itself would have to be lipid soluble. It would not be an ethanol solution at all. And that, my friends, is way beyond my hobby interest.
However, I’ve been looking at mones diffuser schematics that could pump probably 100 mcg P83 into a 500 sq. ft. room like a jet turbine. Smaller ones would work in a car or be portable. Ain’t no body got 'dem, far as I know. Hehe.