Why do guys stare and do nothing?

Fact of the matter is, he’s a relatively good lookin guy, in my opinion. Some of his techniques of dressing wierd and attracting attention help him build rapport, etc.
Lot of his stuff is BS, I personally think, especially this ‘caveman’/inherent instinct of talking to the wrong woman… evolution doesn’t work like that. Not only that, but evolution would take millions of years.. humans haven’t been around that long. And survival of the fittest wouldn’t isolate and pass on this gene for a certain construction of your linguistic and thought processing brain centers of being apprehensive about speaking to the wrong woman. Just BS

Hi it’s me!

I just smiled as if to say hi… didn’t necessarily have any seduction intentions in my mind. All I had in mind was here’s somebody I might get to know, perhaps…

Well he seems to know what he is doing right? so i’d couldnt care less if it was BS or not it seems to be working for him and others that are around him. I found it rather intresting and to a level it can be true. It’s not really the story he is going on about, its the way he does his material to get her to work for him instead of the other way around

there will be people who need to follow example,and people who make their own way. be yourself,smn1234, and allow them what works for them.

i could have followed my best friend when i was younger and did as she did and wound up with the same type she did, or do as i did and wind up with guys much more interesting.

for some people, mimicking is the only way.
and if it works, dont knock it :slight_smile:

mysteries method absolutley works for mystery, and there will be people who want to be like Britney Spears on Idol doing the same thing she does and reaching a certain amount of success.

i think your problem with this is that this method works for superficial hookups (and chicks that went out that night with the intention of getting laid to any guy that met their short list) and thats not what your looking for. if it was, you’d stand on your head and twirl around if it meant getting into anything with a dress on. :smiley:
guys say all the time they want women, but find themselves choosier than they thought they would be :roll_eyes:

take into consideration too that this is a money-making gimmick,so things are made to appear more complex and sophisticated (the terms/explanations/history lessons) than what is.

There are many different reasons why people in general do not approach one another. Social Anxiety, shyness, inferiority complex, pushing people away before they’re rejected, or perhaps they’re just confined by time, mood, or another male/female. In general, men may not approach the lady for various reasons that normally is centered around the fear of rejection. Fear of rejection haunts everybody, so there’s no getting around it, unless you work on moving past it, instead of living comfortably with it.

In my experience, I do not approach women that I do not know, because of my social anxiety issues. It’s not just women, though. I do not approach anybody! I cannot help it as it is a reactionary defense mechanism that is ingrained into my subconscious. My reasoning in general for not approaching a hot woman is because either a) I percieve her as having higher value than me, b) I consider her to already be taken, so there’s no use, and/or c) I just like to look due to testosterone issues.

I never understood why the woman does not approach a desireable target. Social conditioning, perhaps?

I live in a crowded city–Honolulu–and there are so many attractive women you quickly learn to ignore them just go about your business. Otherwise you’d never make it to work or even the bathroom. Normally she needs more than a smile and a pretty face to stand out in the crowd. In fact women smile at me all the time and I just grin back.

Oddly, when I lived in a small town, I’d run across the street to meet an attractive woman. They were a rare sighting.

i can only speak for myself, while i do not suffer from “beatiful woman” syndrome, i still only approach for every reason BUT that im interested.
i will approach anyone and everyone, but if im interested im not obvious about it.
gals are going to have issues taking initiative because of how they are viewed if they do.
if we initiate we are desperate or something is wrong with us and if you take the bait you will soon find out what it is :roll_eyes:
we’d get rejected just as often.prolly more.

how do i know this is a prevalent thought?
bartending.

omg she just said hi to me…wonder what she wants!
does she have cooties?
why doesnt she have a boyfriend?
why is she interested in ME?

May not suffer from the syndrome, but that doesn’t mean you’re not one.

:wink:

Like everyone else here seems to be saying, the best way I’ve found to get guys to approach me is to smile like a drooling idiot. :smiley::smiley::smiley: I think that one reason smart chicks sometimes have trouble doing this is that we tend to smile only when there is something to smile about. Personally, I usually have a lot on my mind and my thinking/pondering face is not especially welcoming. Or, if a guy is really really hot, sometimes I freeze and I truly can’t make my face muscles smile back at him.
:confused: <—I look kind of like that.

I totally agree with Lor about social smiles and saying Hi. With pheromones on, everyone says hi to me when passing. There is never an excuse not to be pleasant and say Hey back.

Phoenix, I quite agree with you too. Certain people growl at anything anybody says. Quite nice of the lady to save you the time and money you might have otherwise wasted on her. Alternatively, tho, she may have just been stunned by your magnificence (and phero signature)…:wink:

I agree with you too… That day I was wearing a mix of A314 and a few drops of Aquagen. Couple of days before I put some -none in my armpit too, it may have still been in effect actually.. hmm could I have intimidated her? I don’t know it was just a few seconds after she entered the large room I was in with other people.

Well at least I didn’t notice strange behaviour like women rubbing their legs like I did with the aquagen alone.. probably restrained by the a314!

He is purely about making $ off a men that are desperate to get laid. Not the theory of evolution. Portrayals of accurate science are non existant. It’s merely a pyschological tool more then anything to put students into his style of PUA mindset.

I don’t buy into everything either. But nobody says you have to look to or buy into Pickup Artistry. I like some techniques, and some of the stuff I was doing without ever knowing anything about PU Artistry. Other things I don’t like at all and would never even humor the idea of trying out.

OMG IOI SHE MUST WANT ME! lol. I always love the assumption that guys get under if they get the slightest bit of attention from a girl.

oh yes my friend, that is the other end of the spectrum.
bravo in pointing that out :slight_smile:

um im bending over -not because i dropped something or need to grab something up from the floor ,
but because i really really really hope this guy is checking out my fat ass :smiley:
wait no, how about finding an itch…one that i may have to ignore forbid that the guy next to me thinks i cant help rubbing myself near him…

but my ultimate all time favorite is having to use the bathroom.

more men on this board believe women use the bathroom because they are hot and bothered by them.
um, what exactly are we doing in a nasty gross public bathroom???
cold water on the face?
panting?
trying to think of baseball?

:roll_eyes: nevermind.

Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do to make an anxious guy confident unless you are willing to initiate the conversation yourself. Are you by yourself when these men stare at you? If you are with friends then that can be a bad situation for you . Approaching a pack of females rarely turns out positive. Dressing like the girl next door can really make you seem much more chill and thus more approachable which could help. Also if you are reading or talking on the cell phone all the time then you seem really busy and uninterested. Maybe that might help but there really is no easy fix for your problem. :frowning:

On a scale of one to ten, how hot are you? Seriously. Because there could be 2 different reasons for guys not approaching.

The first and most common reason is that most guys are not willing to step extremely out of their comfort zone. “Losery” or “excuses” if you want to be mean and call it that. There are nights where I do 2-3 approaches as conversion starts and just wing (when I already know I will get a lay from a FB) and there are “collection/multisarging” nights where we blow through 5 approaches each, after that, the approach anxiety goes away signficantly, though the really hot ones still cause a stir.

The fact that your friend is bubbly helps. Also, is she hotter than you? (Honestly). Because that makes a huge difference too. Hotness and attitude combined. The hotter the girl, the less likely the chumps will attempt to approach her. However, if she has an awesome attitude (always laughing, teasing, talking to friends) a lot of guys, including chumps will approach. This is why beautiful, outgoing and put together women often go out with friends, so that the alphas can first approach the group and she can eliminate the loser guys. Non puas always approach the hotter girl first. They think, since Im willing to make a mockery of myself, might as well hit the hot one. PUAs know to approach the less attractive one first and work his way around. I have seen less attractive girls pull more guys because of their fun attitude versus cold HB bitchy types.

Try entering sets that your friend has opened. I.e. Are you here with your other guy friends? Laugh a lot. Make eye contact. Touch a guy as you are passing him. Say Hi. I guarantee you you will not get rejected. No guy will reject a girl who approaches him except a total loser, in which case you have nothing to lose anyway.

Now, back to the reason why I asked how hot you are. There’s an interesting exception to the rule whereby you are a HB10 and you’re not as bubbly. This creates a difficult situation for us. Super hot chick with friends who’s smelling sexy :slight_smile: but seems un-openable causes extreme approach anxiety. This is why a lot of model/fashion type girls end up fucking their gay friends. In this case you’ll just have to wait for the PUAs or a natural player to approach :wink:. I have seen an exception in a girlfriend called Maria. She’s a total seductress but she’s an exception to the rule. She’s fun, bubbly and EVERY single guy who we go out with ends up hitting on her, even the self proclaimed “PUAs”.

Most girls are not HB10s, taking into account the statistical distribution of beauty in the population, so just adjust your body language, use your friends as pivots, make eye contact, smile, and if you really think a guy is hot, just go up to him and say “hi”. He won’t bite honey. I promise. Lick maybe, but not bite.

-AW

Well, omsetimes it’s difficult to interpret.
You sure as hell could BEND at a different angle or all together kneel and not expose your butt so :slight_smile:

people listen to this in the mens forum, but rating ourselves is probably the most ignorant thing women do to themselves or one another.

now lets think about this.

shall sugernspice try talking and relating to you, M3trbo, because you are the ugly one so that she can get to your friend?

your going to grow out of this phase, god forbid the universe plays a little joke and surprises you with a daughter someday that you fearfully think will only grow up to be an HB4,because well she didnt get mom’s legs or your eyes…:roll_eyes: …double :roll_eyes:

hopefully i posted before one of the gals humored themselves to think about how "hot " they really are :smiley:

-HB bitchy-type

http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/love0084.gif

note to self:
carry jacket around waist when kneeling to pick up objects around smn1234,because kneeling could expose thong…:smiley:
oh and try to remember to think of different angles at that moment,too…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Well, I tried to explain with a mathematical model of expectations, and that fell pretty flat. Here goes another try in words.

Many men have had multiple experiences of attractive women being rude or mean to them. In many cases approaching such a woman is not worth the trouble of an unpleasant interaction, even if the woman is quite attractive.

Thoughts like

and

may not be as private as you may wish, even if they are not verbalised. That could explain why men come to talk to your “bubbly” friend, but not to you. If someone is putting out a friendly vibe, they’re fun to talk to and be around, even if they may not be physically attractive. Such a person is easy and fun to approach and talk to.

PUAs seem to pride themselves on having the “balls” to approach women putting out hostile vibes, and winning them over. For many of us, hostile or seemingly hostile women are just not worth the trouble. A woman who continiously evaluates converstaional partners and hurts those not good enough for her, may be condemming herself to a lifetime of interactions with PUAs.

Even if a woman is not trying to hurt people, but it appears that she would - a scowl, a dismissive gesture, etc., may be enough for many men to dismiss her out of hand.

I’m sure this is a difficult situation for many women, who perhaps get more attention than they want and find that they have to discourage some of it. There’s probably some art of which I know little, concerning how to discourage some without turning almost everybody off.

I don’t understand. Why would a girl want to give herself some arbitrary rating as a determining factor of her value versus her friends (or at all, really)? What could be the possible benefit in that? Someone ends up feeling badly. So what if her friend is more or less attractive? Who cares? If you want more people to approach you, laugh, smile and be approachable. If your posture says leave me alone and your clothing says stare at me, that is probably what will happen. If your clothing says there is (far) more than meets the eye and your posture says come get to know me, your chances are greater.

Of course, if you only want to get laid, don’t talk to me. My advice cannot and will not help you.

Go ahead, tell me “Men are more visually oriented than women are.” That’s a load of crap. Do you think women don’t care what their man looks like? Furthermore, do you think the women you end up in a LTR with will look the same as when you met her for the rest of her life? No, she won’t stay the same, she will look better with every day that you spend together.

To what pheromones help, I suggest if you want more people to approach you, try Instant Shine or MX140 or similar, it will put you in a better mood which will make you more approachable. Perhaps a bit of IO to lighten things up as well.