Im lost. Most people’s results seem to be awesome when it comes to using AMMO. Accept for mine. twice ive tested it on its own with 1 x spray of it on my neck and i found out that most women tend to ignore me. Accept some really hot/bitchy girls! Without ammo i get ALOT more looks during the day/night than with it. What am i doing wrong?
Tested in - Shopping centres, trains, cafee places, shops.. common places.
If i go upto a female and like stand next to her or something, i quickly find out that she goes away. WTF? Never used to happen to me before.
GWTW is right. Your body may be producing a good amount of natural ‘none’, just nice to seduce girls. The ‘none’ in AMMO may have made your total ‘none’ too much.
like JB said you are probably putin too much none out there and r od’in.
But just to be sure why dont you try 2 sprays to the neck 1 on each side then try 3 the next day. If you r od’in then it’ll get progresivly worse if your not od’in it’ll get better either way you will finally know.
If you r od’in then try the socials more but stay on the low side, also with ammo you can try 1 spray to a q-tip and 1 swipe from that q-tip, be like 1/10th of 1 spray and go from there.
Just tried TUTH. which has abit of androst… than AMMO right? Women almost ran away as soon as i was near them. As if im gonna rape them or something.
Good point about my body producing enough none. ill keep it in mind. Thanks for that. never thought of it that way.
A314 works very well for me though. Even from 1 drop people move out my way to let me through, etc.
I think ill leave ammo+ tuth for now. and experiment with IO+Alpha+ Spaceland+ IS.
And when it comes to socials.. how many sprays do you guys recon i should use for socials ?(I.E. IO, IS?) with A314. I love that stuff. Gives me the edge in anything i do.
IO and Ishine are pretty forgiving, start with 2 sprays and work up to 5 and then back down to 2 a see what gives you the best effect. Use them one at a time and don’t use A314 with them until you have a feel for what they do alone. That was one of the biggest mistakes I made when starting.
Spaceland is more of a novelty product and I wouldn’t consider it a social so much as an experiment. Use it just for fun clubbing or partying.
I would suggest 2-3 shots shine for the social effects, that and it smells the BOMB.
Also, consider layering Turn Up The Heat, with 1 Shot of Shine.
So after application of TUTH, let it dry off fan it with a piece of paper and once it is dry, spritz over Instant shine for a layered effect, should cut back the effects of TUTH and with the combination of TUTH and shine being taken at the same time, buffer well.
Help from a more senior member… Am I correct in this assumption?
OP, don’t take this the wrong way, but what’s up with all these teens wearing Ammo and TUTH like they don’t have enough sexuality going for them to begin with?
Socials are key man, if there isn’t already a sticky, there should be one. If there is, people need to be reading it.
We’re men, not eunuchs. We’re plenty sexual already, if I’m not mistaken, that’s what a lot of girls get tired of at times. We can’t stop thinking about sex as is, we don’t need to ‘amp’ that part of our identities.
From what I’m reading, try out IO or IS first, see where that takes you. I think you’ll get better reactions. Don’t be bummed because Ammo didn’t turn out like you were hoping. The same way not every style works for every person, some products will mesh better with you than others. Find out what those products are and enjoy.
Dj, I don’t really have a problem with what you are saying. I would add though that TUTH and AMMO have the same amount of -none.
It’s very important that people use each product alone until they understand how it works. I see a lot of guys who have had good experiences with -none recommending combos right off the bat. The only problem is that when the combo doesn’t work, for reasons that usually have nothing to do with pheromones to start with, then everybody jumps to the conclusion that it’s a -none OD.
The question that my mentor GWTW asked to start with is the appropriate one, “How are the socials working for you?” The OP can’t answer that if he’s using a combo that includes -none.
My point is you can’t determine if you’ve ODed on AMMO by using TUTH.
I think your advice is good Dj, I just think it skips a step.
I’m going to agree with my buddy here; socials are the unsung hero!
You’re already young, so I am sure that you are producing a great amount of -none, plus you did mention that you already get decent attraction from girls to begin with without using pheromones so that’s another clue to know that we are making a correct assumption here. However, there are VARIOUS things to take a note of here; just to refresh your memory sure AMMO smells like a top of the line cologne, but remember that it is NOT supposed to be used like normal cologne.
With AMMO always remember that you can’t really spray as much as you want without worry about OD side effects, where as with cologne you spray as you want without worry about anything going wrong (because obviously there are no pheromones in cologne!) So always remember that AMMO will/may lead to negative side effects because of the -none in it. So obviously if you’re getting spray happy (not saying that you are) you may get negative results because you will eventually OD on the -none, but the thing is that this can also happen with -none build up!
So now that leads me to the question; do you wash off/scrub off your old AMMO application points? Because if you don’t maybe what is going on here is some good old fashion -none build up. If this is the case, I suggest buying some astringent with Witch Hazel in it and with a cotton ball wash off the application points VERY well, and then shower (or vice versa.)
Another thing to note is that maybe since you know you’re wearing pheromones and are dying to see results you are probably going up to girls to see if they will react to your AMMO signature, but are probably accidentally being too forward with your approach that it’s making them think “why is this guy going up to me all suspicious like?” Not saying that this is the case, but when you go up to a girl to see if they respond to your AMMO spray/s, are you doing it suspiciously or sneaky like? I mean, I know you mentioned that you go up to females and stand next to them, and then they leave. Well, if I was a female and suddenly saw an unknown guy go stand next to me the first thing that will come to mind is my safety. So maybe that may be another reason as to your lack of success with AMMO?
I have to agree with mikotorocks, If you have good hygiene and invest in a cheap body wash as well as a $5 bottle of witch hazel with lasts forever it seems, then there really should be no problem.
Just a suggestion from another newbie… Try Instant Gentleman. I have found that women (especially younger ones 18-24) seem to be very attracted to it when paired with Instant Openness or Instant Honesty.
The Instant Gentleman gives you an approachable Alpha male vibe and the others make women feel more willing to act on the feelings of interest. I use Instant Gentleman more than any other product because it is so easy to use and gets women very interested in me.
Now that i started using pheros i give my body a good scrub with Lynx showergel, and a sponge especialy concentrating on to where i applied it.
And i dont make things obvious when i mean i stand to them or something i.e. picking something up to the grocery store with innocent intentions.
Thanks for your advice everyone. I think ill begin with IO. or would it be better to start with IS? Will use straight for a week, See where that takes me, or should i test products for a longer time?
And also.. when testing a product for a week should i test it something like this:
1 x spray for 2 days
2 x spray for another 2
3 x for another day (if OD come back down?)
Am i along the right guidelines here?
Ill leave stronger stuff like A134, TUTH and AMMO till i got some experience with socials.
And as i mentioned. I often get looks as it is. Even from women 25+. Cuz i got a good build. Quet tall. (6’3 / 190cm) Look older than im. So maybe i don’t even need products like ammo? =)
Either one is a good place to start. You’ll see for yourself which ones your prefer. A week is usually long enough to see where its headed. Test for a longer time if you need more time to understand the subtleties. I usually need to test putatives several times.
That’s a pretty solid testing schedule. Try that and see how it goes.
I think you may find that you don’t really need TUTH or Ammo if you have a good handle on your socials, especially at your age. I personally almost never wear TUTH or Ammo, and rarely use A314 (which btw is very good, but also has many subtleties that are hard to grasp at first). The socials alone give me great results. I’ve had a girl jump into my lap and kiss me, just using Instant Shine. Yes, she was a random.
You look like you’ve got a good build, as well as other things going for you. Try it out, and let us know how it goes. Have fun.
And should i start with wearing it on my neck right? since its the most exposed area of my body, as it’s too cold just to go out in a shirt,usualy wear a top.
Will start with IO as discovered put’s me in a better mood, and gets me more chatty
