Word of Advice

Pheromones are potent molecules both single and mixes of molecules, so there is one thing that must be kept in mind. Certain molecules can change the higher the dose, and these are stages that most pheromone enthusiasts are familiar with. Certain mones may cause ghosting or OD at higher mcg doses, or may not work at lower doeses for certain people. One thing i just recently found, and maybe someone else noted it as well, i just have yet to find any posts on it yet, is that if multiple people are wearing the same mone, in the same vicinity of each other, the mcg dose can actually work as if it was added together. An example is this. You and a freind decide to rock P83 at 10mcg/spray. You both decided to put on 3 sprays for a total of 30mcg each. If you both are standing in line to enter a bar or any event, your combined signature will read as 60mcg. And the signs around you will show it. For men it will cause drowsiness, and for women increased comfort and/or increased subconscious kino. Ive noticed myself that at 85.7mcg, men fall into a dazed state, described as unfocused for both them and wearers. This could also happen with other mones, so its best to wear light signature mones in a group, or wear different mones. Does anyone have any experiences with this?

Yes - I’ve found that high-dose P83 can often work against you, eventually it gets to the point where people simply become disinclined to do anything around you. They just sit about, a little dazed and unresponsive instead,

What makes the dose high does depend on the rest of the mix to quite some extent. With a largely social or lightly sexual mix, less P83 is usually better but with an overt sexual or sexual/status, you can go quite a bit higher - often up to 80-odd mcg.

However IME by the time you get to 100mcg and over, P83 is usually working against you in any mix.

And on a side note, it is also quite possible to overuse P83 in mixes - to the point that instead of supporting/complementing them, it flattens or confuses responses to the primary mones.

Yep but the main point here is to outline that if too many people are wearing the same mones, they can OD without even realizing it, because mones whether on the skin or in the air will work like a combined dosage. If you your freind, and another freind each have one 3 sprays of any mone, it will act as if you were 1 entity wearing 9 sprays of that mone. Now one you guys separate and enter different portions of the area, it is different in the sence that now its operating at 3 sprays rather than 9. I could be wrong but its just something i have noticed among other people and seld effects when giving my freind something to wear as any guinea pig is inclined to do When their mad scientist freind says lol.

But i do agree, P83 at high doses does work against. Has anyone ever tried a buildup of it? I know some sexual blends benefit from build up like NPA, so i wonder how P83 would work If at all…?

Couldn’t you always just not tell your friends? I stopping telling some of my general friends the things I was up to for self improvement. I was either met with skepticism (sometimes harsh) or this lazy just tell me the best thing to do so I can be awesome. I have found that many of the self improvement ideas do work but its not some easy process…requires work. So if someone isn’t really interested in the idea and learning with me I just pass on even mentioning it no matter how awesome it is.

That’s whay you either keep your mone advantage to yourself. :wink:

OR

If you do share them, ensure that each one of you is wearing a different style of mix. :slight_smile:

I’ve use P83 as steering in mixes that involve buildup, yes but as a primary for buildup itself, no. P83 isn’t really a sexual in that sense.

I give them other stuff to try, stuff that i am curious to try myself but wish to first test on someone else. if i do change signature it will be a gradual change. My mone advantage is not something i wish to keep to myself alone, or else i no longer fulfill my life purpose of helping people around me. I also fail the idea of recruiting new pheromone soldiers and possible clients, and im sure Androtics, Apex, LAL, and other companies would be against that in some sense. Not only that, doing this supports my rise in Status as those who look upon my knowledge with some kind of skepticism are turned into avid followers once they see the power of mones and this gives credit to any other information i may have shared in the past which they may have regarded skeptically. Its a win win situation for us all.