Tonight I went out to dinner with 3 girls , all of which are friends. I wore 10mcg of none, 1 spray TUTH, 7.5 mcg TAH, 7.5 TAL, and 12.5 mcg p79. Everyone of them bitched me out hardcore for no reason. One flipped at me because I would not watch Grey’s Anatomy with her. Eventually the manager came over and asked the girls to calm down or leave. I honestly said maybe 10 words the entire night and the rest of the time I got bitched at. 
Jas thinks: Way too much none and P79!
They were probably P79-focusing on how aggravated the none made them feel. Happens all the time with me + none + P79. It’s like parachute pants: a tricky beast to wear and pull off with style!
Plus - there were THREE femmes. Each girl was picking up on each other’s aggravation/irritation and compounding it. sNONEball Effect in action!
Well, I’m glad you made it out alive, mate. Guess ya won’t do THAT again, love! :o
Why is it nobody wants to believe that none = aggression? You wore none and TUTH with none in it and expected what?
I was under the impression that TUTH had 2.5 mcg per spray , and I was told that 15-20 mcg of none is optimal. Given that I had just taken a shower and I had just put on deodorant I did not think there would be any chance of an OD. 
My God, who told you that?
I’ve managed to get over 100+ mcg of none on me without causing a riot But that’s only because I know how to buffer it well enough 
My typical daily none application levels probably run between 5-12.5 mcg at any one time …
Every individual has his or her own tolerance level for none. It really does depend on how strong your own pheromone levels are. There really isn’t any specific standard to go by, except that the younger you are, the less none you probably need because your body produces a lot more than an older individual would. Ethnicity also plays a part, as does diet and hygiene. Try incrementing up 1 spray at a time at each test occasion until you start seeing OD effects to determine your maximum allowable none level.
I read it on a pheromone study somewhere where they sprayed various amounts of none on people and found that 20 mcg was the breaking point between positive and negative responses.
Holy crap.. show us the study!
Definitely the none and the P79. When I wear P79 with none, I tone the none down. To me P79 seems to make the positive effects of none stronger, but can also make you OD
What are you guys using to taper the the -none off? I have some heavy -none products (instant jerk, Turn up the heat, ammo, Instant gentleman etc.), but im a little careful about using them, because im 22 and afraid of an OD. any suggestions?
Spin
dienone and alpha nol work well. any social or comfort type pheromones should do well.
The androstenone products offered by AD are pretty tame (not thats a bad thing) relative to others (except for RAW Power). PI and NPA are far more concentrated. Those were products that caused a lot of OD problems for me. Ammo and TUTH were far leess problematic…theres less to worry about.
TUTH already has P79 in it man!
You lucky dogs, I’ve never been able to OD on -none, and believe me I’ve tried. Must be a middle aged Asian thing but I can pour it on and responses only get better.
Incidentally the worst mix I’ve ever tried was WAGG. It did exactly zero for me and was expensive to boot.
-rone seems to tame the -none like no other! Also alpha-nol and A1 as Sigma mentioned.
I went back to find the study where I read THat 20 mcg was the correct amount of none to wear and it turned out to be a commercially motivated study to promote pheromore. I guess thats what I get for being a dumbass. I thought the TAH and TAL would lighten up the none but that definitely did not happen. In reality I think it just made them less afraid to flip out at me. 
i know for myself that there are people who will get irritated and NOT tell you that you (as the 'none wearer) piss them off because
alot of 'none = scary monster.
i will not be in a hurry to tell scary monster that i feel irrate or uncomfortable.
Lor, very interesting…
Hmmmmm i be having brother who is wearing this none as he says so it is, but is not so much SCARY MONSTER to myself as him still is seems the same, and also Hungs friends wear of this when around me, so as take me for bed being very hopefull and with no thoughts of reality, and also as i being sexy girl as they say, but it not scare me or even effect me, as i am not ready for mans bed till i be married, as i am so sensable a girl. Even Lor i be advise you that when you get some expereence with these none then after some time you will not become scared of this SCARY MONSTER lol.
I guess a number of products/pheromones tame Androstenone:
- A314
- straight Androsterone
- WAGG
- Androstadienone/IFM
- P93 possibly at least for women (see toilofday’s P93 post that I have pasted in below).
Just don’t go too high on any of these ‘tamers’ or you’ll lose the ‘sexual’ edge that Androstenone gives.
"…In regards to -none and p93 on women. Everytime I used a -none based product people seemed stand off ish, even with my first few runs of ammo. So I began using p93 shortly there after with my -none mixes. (that was the plan initialy but I had to test ammo by it’s self a few time first)
The problems that I normaly associate with -none seem to vanish when using p93. Don’t be confused by that. I doesn’t change the OD ranges of -none. It’s not going to allow you to wear more than you normaly could, it just helps facilitate the effectiveness. BTW i’m I don’t like -none. It fogs me over at times, but with p93 i’ve developed a fondness for it…"
Also AndrostAnone buffers AndrostEnone well. Kinda takes the edge off -none without killing it, but seems more social as well. I’ve used them in various ratios but 1:1 worked well for me. Both are pretty stinky stuff so run for cover.