Must say..Very interesting conversation lol. i have been on this forum for a couple of days. i haven’t used any -mones so far but im thinking about it. i have a hypothetical fun question though..lol, so I’d get an idea about how strong these pheromones are…say….if I combined A314, TUTH, IS, IO, IG, MX203, CTTM2, all together (ONE spray from each), on my chest, wrists, back of ears, and in my hair, and I went to a night club, what should I expect..
I wd like to hear from the experienced guys in here who have used such products for some time now..based on your experience gurus, walk me through what might happen. what kind of women am i gona attract, am i gona get some at all ? am i gona get beaten up by guys ? lol
A314 and IG are siblings. This should give you a status/alpha vibe but less so than 2 drops of A314. IG is said to be friendlier and more approachable.
IO is very fun and friendly, Instant Shine is too but not as chatty, more charismatic.
CTTM2 is like IO+IH so it might help make the communication vibe a touch more serious, but not overly so.
TuTH is a very sexually forward None based product but between the Rone of A314 and IG and the Nols from IO and CTTM2 it should be pretty well buffered to just add “sexy guy” to the list of qualities your signal communicates.
I know nothing about MX203 so I can’t say what that’s supposed to do.
Basically not counting the 203 you have a little sexuality, a little bit more status, and a lot of social signal. The Shine and IO combined with the Anol if CTTM2 would likely make your main quality be…“very likable guy that’s fun and easy to talk to”
The A314 and IG would actually be over powered by that much social signal imo since IG is already pretty friendly and A314 diffuses slower than any of the sprays so you’ll have an UNDERlying “who’s also fairly mature and seems to have his act together”.
The 2.5 mcg of none/steering molecules of TuTH would be so well buffered that your tertiary signal would be “and who’s also kinda sexy”
Depending on what’s in MX203 it could simply strengthen either the social aspect of the Shine/IO/CTTM2…the respect vibe of the A314/IG…or the attraction/sexuality of the TuTH.
Interesting logic. There is only one problem, if younger women prefer lower levels, and men over 40 naturally have lower levels than men in their 20’s, then that would mean that young women would prefer men over 40. We don’t see that though..
You can’t deny the fact that lots of men in their mid 30’s to early 40’s are marrying women that are in their mid to later 20’s though. Its not every case but it is quite prevalent.
Catlord knows what hes talking about and the idea that your confused about is considered pretty factual conjecture based on experience.
One idea is that younger women are not as comfortable with their “sexuality”
as older women normally are. This isn’t to say older men aren’t inclined to sexual activity anymore its just that virile sexual energy/ urges aren’t quite as impressive as when they were around 18-28. Its been shown time and time again that Socials can be more effective than immediate sexual undertones when trying to get her to be intimate with you.
Radman513: thanks alot for the info. gave me a sense of what to expect. i know that on here they say try each product alone, but i think based on the experience of others what to expect ‘generally’ from each product, if i combine them i’ll get a much more desired effect much faster! Not sure if im gona smell like urine though! lol.
Natural preference and social stigma are two different beasts. Once upon a time it was totally natural, common and acceptable for a 40 year old man to marry a woman barely out of her teens…in some parts of the world it still is. The status of the older man ensured a better chance of survival for both the female and her offspring as well as the fact that human lifespans were shorter so girls were married off earlier when they had more breeding years ahead of them, boys close to their age were still struggling to establish themselves against older males so they weren’t ideal choices. This has been the case from prehistoric tribal societies on up to almost the turn of the century.
I’ll tell you this much
When I wear a high rone product like A314 (3 drops) or MX347 (2 sprays) with MX301 I get hits with females ranging from 16-24. I get ok results with women older than that but that age range eats up the combo like candy. I’m 38 and starting to get some random grays here and there. And I have had jailbait almost throw themselves at me. in ways that make me uncomfortable. I’ll date 19 or 20 but I’m not stupid.
Now 301 has none but it’s so well buffered and intelligently buffered as far as what socials and putaives were used that when a single spray is added to a high rone product women that you would assume would call you a dirty old man for approaching them…approach YOU. I see younger girls flirt with older men all the time, and I see cougars (so often it’s hypocritcally become a fashionable term now) chasing guys barely old enough to buy their own beer.
If you want a younger (But still legal and ethical dammit!) woman, play up your strong points as an older man. Also make HER age the issue. You’re not too old…she’s too young and tell her so, watch her become argumentative about the point and she’ll start qualifying herself to you going on about how she’s more mature than her friends, about how she’s more cultured and sophisticated than you probably assume etc.
Radman..i was wondering if you could suggest some of your favourite combinations of mones used together, like 3 or 4 different combinations that works for you..
Much appreciated..thanks.
For selling ice to eskimo’s mix
3 Drops A314 1 Spray IH, and 1 spray of Instant Shine. Respect, Likability, and a sense of honesty and trust…everything you need to make people shell out the dough.
Cougar Hunting Mix
2 sprays MX297, 2 sprays double strength TuTH, 2 sprays IO (single spray of Shine Optional) older women tend to like it sexual but also light and fun. So IO works better than IH with them.
May/December I wanna girl half my age mix
3 Drops A314(alt 2 sprays MX347), 2 sprays MX301, 1 spray IH and one spray Shine.
This is the one that’s still in development, I want it to continue working like it is on 21 year olds…I just wish it would stop working on the 16 year olds dammit.
Old reliable go anywhere and be prepared for anything mix
3 drops A314, 2 sprays Instant Shine and 2 sprays regular str. Ammo (or a single spray of Heavy Ammo.) This is the mix I use like 80% of the time, I’ll alternate between this and the Eskimo mix above.
Everybody’s best friend mix.
1 spray Ammo, 3 sprays IO, 3 sprays Shine
The Ammo might seem odd but I’ve noticed that for me at least, too much Anol without some masculine None/Rone comes off as a great big beta-like “kick me” sign. Lots of tooling and amoging if you seem too “nice”. The none and rone in the ammo seems just enough to remind them that you might be a nice guy but dammit you’re still a guy. To be honest I tried this a couple of times after finding that too much social can be as bad as too little (for me at least) but I really prefer Rone based mixes so A314 is my go to product but MX297 is REALLY catching up.
Oh this one is simple and sweet.
The tonight’s the night combo
Shower with Dial Magnetic (no clue if it helps but it can’t hurt) I actually rinse once, then lather again and rinse the second time with the water as cold as I can stand it…closes up the pores so I retain some more of the A1. Then two sprays each of TuTH and IH…hot and romantic.
i’m 18, so that 16-21 year old combo of A314/MX301 sounds really good to me ahaha (it’s still legal for me to get with jailbait, consensually of course! ). i have both, but given how i’m 18 i’m sure the sprays/drops required would be a little different than you. what would you suggest in my case? thanks!
Not positive but I’d wager younger guys producing more none and all could most likely cut the MX301 down to a single spray to avoid None OD. Outside of that things I’ve picked up on is that Rone gives a mature sense of security that younger women respond to. Anol works better on milfs and cougars looking for no strings type stuff and bnol like in ih works great for younger women still looking for prince charming. Honestly mx301 is so well buffered and has about as much a “instant boyfriend material” quality as a sexual one that it might just work fine even for younger guys.
A good possible variation might be IG instead of A314. Lighter and less serious but still masculine and secure feeling. Probably easier for a younger guy to be congruent with that than A314.
this all makes sense. i have ordered 1 TUTH 2.5mcg and 1 TUTH 5mcg just to test the differences in concentration levels and yesterday i tested one spray of the 5mcg on a friend of mine who is 17 and for the hour we were together she kept saying that i was very demanding!!! and i wasnt even trying to do anything or send across that vibe . so i saw that as being to high of a dose TUTH so next i will try one spray of 2.5mcg and see what effects that brings and let you guys know.
i think olfact is right and would like to ask some advice. would TUTH and IH ( i got a 4x strentgh) be a got social additive??
personally i think it would because it would create that closeness feeling
another Question. has anyone established the age range to spray ratio for TUTH?
As you were stating IH brings comfort/knowingness so it eases the tension and makes the girl accept the arousal shes feeling more than in contrast of wearing TUTH without a social component. No matter what we say or do women are still emotional creatures and we have to appeal to their emotions before they play into their more carnal desires. The beta androstenol in IH helps with that aspect.
THe 5mcg of -anone isn’t too bad IME, I’ve done this up to 6 sprays. I’ve thought it was the P93 in the mix that really gets it going so I figured that it has a softening effect with a slower sexual tension that goes on with MX301, I’ve done IG + MX301 and has worked amazingly well for it and switched the sig up to MX297 + 83 + 75 + 79 + IH and it was a perfect lead in sexual tension wise.
18-23 around there. I usually come out late because of the shit I have to do, and by then some of my friends already got pickups, and sometimes I come there with girls that are younger that my friends know and I just get ridiculous IOI’s from them when it comes to eye contact, that seductive look that the youngin’s give you. It gets to the point of uncomfortable because they’re there clearly with your friend and you don’t want to be that late comer scumbag that steps on everyone else’s toes. As for girls around my age (mid 20’s) I usually have great success with MX301 and IG at equal sprays, it’s a great lead in to my closer mix, MX297 & Co. I tailor that based on who it is. P93 really does give that boyfriendish effect as in girls are more possessive over you, the TAA with IS, and bnol that just gives them the little teaser with the IG androsterone effects makes for a non-threatening, yet fun first encounter. I came up with my MX297 mix based on MX301 and took the parts I liked about it and exchanged it with putatives that worked better for me.
MX297 has a high Androsterone IME, and I added from the ICM 0.25.1a the bnol with IH, replaced -anone with P75, replaced the P93 with P83, and took some P79 in there to intensify the prior feelings.
I doubt this mix would work with anyone just right off the bat, I calculated this based on the person and the prior times we’ve gone out.
Also the putatives I’ve tested helped me gauge the effects of it and kinda showed me where I needed to make tweaks to this mix.
). i have both, but given how i’m 18 i’m sure the sprays/drops required would be a little different than you. what would you suggest in my case? thanks! 
. so i saw that as being to high of a dose TUTH so next i will try one spray of 2.5mcg and see what effects that brings and let you guys know.