Your advice on my next mones please ?

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Hello everybody !

I’ve been away from the forum for a long time, so I forgot a lot about the mones, what is best for what type of situations etc…

Anyways, i’m looking for some new goodies to buy and ’ narrowed down the list to the mones/molecules that i think would work better for me.

But, as always it’s better to follow the advice of those who know better, so here is the list of what i might consider buying :

Ammo
TUTH

theese are the main products, that i used in past and know.

But i thought i might give a try to some putatives, instead of taking ammo and tuth, or maybe taking one of the above and a putative or two…

P96
P86
P93
p75

p79
p83
p102

Long list i know, but the red ones are the ones i think would be better suited for me, used together, or stand alone or mixed with ammo or tuth.

what i “expect” :

for myself : some confidence boost (i count on the placebo effect too) and more of a outgoing and fun mood/behavior, as i tend to be a “too much serious” guy when i’m out of my comfort zone, which happens quite often, untill something makes me loosen up

for ladies : connection, that spark of attraction… to click right away, social connection, emotionnal connection…
and some sparks of sexual, that little bit of sexy aura that is needed, but not too much of it

I was thinking of buying 2-3 max of theese total, 2 mones and 1 putative, 1 mone and 2 putatives, or 3 putatives…

what are your thoughts ?

Thank you for your time

Cheers !

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Hey man,

absolutely get the P96! That is a wonderful little molecule that seems to moderate both none and rone incredibly well and create a deep bond and a very strong attraction in females.

When I add P96 to A314 or MX353 it seems like the core signature just slips in under everyone’s radar and hit them 10 times harder, both men and women.

So my vote is defo on the P96 :wink:

EDIT:

I know Mobocaster sings the praise of the combo TUTH + P96 so you might wanna look into that? I have only used P96 with MX353 which is also a hefty none-mix and even as low a dose as 7,5 mcg of P96 moderate 3 full sprays of 353 perfectly, so I believe it will work great with TUTH too.

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Thanks for your reply !

What would you add to the “to buy list” from the other putatives, or ammo/tuth ?

also i would like to ask about the fragrances for the putatives… neroli, grapefruit, himalayan, ammo, world, blue summer…

what do theese smell like ? and wich one is best for the molecule ? (duration, amplification of effects, etc)

Thanks again !

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Well, if I were you I would try the A314b spray if you haven’t yet… that is a super-versatile, hard-hitting mix that is useful both for high-status as well as attraction.

Instant Gentleman is also a superb, highly under-rated mix that will go over well both in work as well as night-time situations. Combined with the A314b spray, IG is probably the most attractive combo I know of.

Neroli scent is the standard scent most mones from AD comes in.. mild scent that goes well with anything, not obtrusive and have gotten a lot of compliments from girls IME.

I also really like the Himalayan scent, very manly and delicious scent.

I’m not too sure if I have had anything in the other scents mentioned so I can’t advice you on those.

Don’t be afraid to venture beyond the usual suspects like Ammo and TUTH… Androtics have some really interesting pheromones available and you never know which ones just ‘fits’ you until you experiment around :slight_smile:

Good luck!

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Thak you again for your reply.

actually i do have a few more mones other than tuth and ammo.

what i had and used are : ig io is tuth ammo and a314
but tuth and ammo i finished so i want to resupply either with ammo and tuth again, or some new stuff, and that’s where the putatives come into play :slight_smile:

Since i’m in europe i want to do the shopping one time, shipping and custom taxes are expensive, that’s why i’d like to buy the 3 best of the ones i listed, so i’ll have good and versatile molecules to use toghether, and with what i already have.

i really am considering more p96 and two other p.xx to buy rather that tuth and ammo, but the point is that i really don’t know which ones would be best both as stand alone to test and combos together (and also with the ones i still have).

i will be buying 30ml bottles, no to go size, so i’ll have plenty of time and usage to test and use them :slight_smile:

thoughts on the other two to buy along with p96 ?

thanks again :slight_smile:

cheers !

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If had to pick I would get 2 from the instant line and 1 putative. Putatives can drastically change a mix. For example when I add P74 to 2 sprays of Ammo it works pretty good for a work mix for me. But when I add P96 to 2 sprays of Ammo I get to much of the attention I am not looking for from women in a work environment. Both are similar but with P74 it makes Ammo useable for work for me and with P96 I just get hit on and sexual attention that is not appropriate for work but works great with my wife or going out.

If I were in your shoes I would get Ammo and IS and then P96 as the putative. I think these 3 are your best bet for what you are looking for.

Another option is to maybe get Summer Ammo, TUTH, and P96. I say Summer Ammo because it does have TAA in it which is one of the main ingredients in IS, so you could probably just wear this and get similar effects to Ammo/IS combo.

P75 For me seems to work well on women at the expense of irritating men. A lot of us have found 5MCG or less to be our sweet spot. Money wise it is a great value. It can be kind of tricky to work with.

P79 This one will amplify emotions and what one is feeling. This can be good and bad. If something goes wrong or someone is in a bad mood this will also amplify this also. Very touchy molecule. I have found 5-10MCG for me just enough to throw in a mix.

P96 This is my vote also to get. This thing will go well with your Ammo and TUTH. Like Scenthound mentions it modulates both None and Rone which your Ammo and TUTH will be. I have found 7.5MCG it starts to work and at around 15MCG it is more a beautifying effect and at around 50MCG it is more a straight emotional connection and 20-30MCG is my sweet spot where I get the best of both worlds. I would look at least 10MCG a spray.

As far as scent goes I have posted on this in my journal on all the men’s scent options. I think Ammo and Himilayan are really strong and can be just to much to a lot of people. Neroli is the standard and you can’t go wrong with it. I have found not to many people comment on the grape scent. Now World Ammo, and Blue Ammo are unique and smell nice.

I actually have P96 in 6% FF21/Ammo in 15MCG a spray. What I do is the molecule I want to stand out in a mix I get in FF21/Ammo. I have found the FF21 is a great diffuser and seems to always hit my target the hardest over the others in a mix. So for example I will wear say 2 spray IS(which is Neroli) 3 sprays MX487(Blue Summer) and my 2 sprays P96 in FF21/Ammo.

What this does is the P96 comes through and hits my targets and gets the emotional connection first then the other 2 come in and do what they do.

Sometimes it is a tradeoff with diffusion and scent. You don’t want something that people don’t like or they won’t even get close to you. If in doubt about the scent your best bet is to stay with Neroli 6%.

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If you are limiting yourself to two products, get yourself either TUTH or Ammo as your primary and the putative as your secondary/steering product.

P83 or P96 at around 10mcg per spray are the two I’d suggest as first candidates because both are already well researched and probably the easiest putatives to get to grips with out of that lot and the concentration lets you cover a fairly wide dose range with just a few sprays.

Scent - Stick to 6% Neroli for the putatives. This is because it settles light but still gives good diffusion and again lets yo uuse a good number of sprays so you have the widest range to test-in. Using any other scent will limit the number of sprays you can use in any given situation and what you can use it alongside. Some scents also hve different diffusion properties.

Of course, once you have found your dose range, then there is nothing to stop you experimenting with any scent you like. :slight_smile:

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Thanks Mobocaster I forgot about a cover scent and forgot to bring this up. I have found about the only scent I really have success with as far as a cover is Neroli 6%. I think 20% is to strong as far as the scent option goes.

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thanks to both your answers !

I am limiting myself to 3 products, wether it’s one instant line and 2 putatives, or 3 putatives is irrelevant actually, as long as it works.

I aslo forgot to mention, i will wear theese only on social occasions, pubs, bars, etc.
mostly at night or evening.

no work environement at all.

p96 is the first confirmed candidate then

i was a bit concerned about both p83 and p79. i’ve been out of the game for quite a bit si i don’t think that for a come back using theese molecules would be a good idea.

Still i was considering p83 over p79

I know i am asking a lof of questions, but it gets very confusing reading different reviews from different people, plus the reviews on androtics.

so i’ll go ahead and ask you 3 questions to make things simpler for you, and for me.

considering that p96 is already ok the purchase list and confirmed, i still have two more open spots.

now what i am considering are the following.

p83
p86
p93
p75
ammo

the questions are :

1- what is the main difference between ammo vs summer ? i mean that extra taa does only improve ammo, or it does have downsides ? i see on various polls that ammo is still prefered to summer ammo.

2- what do the putatives p83 p86 p75 and p93 exactly “do” ? each one separately possibly

i thought about p86 because i’m not the best looking guy around, i read that this sort of “enhances” your appearance, is taht correct ?

about p93 i read somewhere that it may have a similar “beautifying” effect like p86, plus the main advantage that is a “blonde magnet”

about p75, enhanced alpha aura and sexiness, minus the aggression from other males, correct ?

about p83, i don’t know where i read that it is a verbal/feeling disinhibitor ?

3- now that we have a shorter “to buy list” and you know where and when i want to use them, what would you add to p96 from the above list ? Also consider that i see myself as an absolute rookie when it comes to mones, i won’t try to pass for an advanced user when i’m not, even if i used 5-6 instant line products. so i would avoid molecules that are known to be tricky most of the time, or that need some experience both in mones and in the game generally to be handled properly

thanks again for your time

Cheers !!

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I haven’t tried any of the putatives on that new list just the ones I commented on from earlier P75, P79, and P96 so hopefully someone can come in and offer some help or direction there.

I would get Ammo for sure and use this as your main pheromone and steer with the others. Summer Ammo also has P130 I believe to. I think you could use just Ammo and achieve what you are looking for with just this one alone. I haven’t seen or heard any downsides with Summer Ammo.

If it were me definitely Ammo or Summer Ammo and P96. I think with these 2 you will definitely have what you are looking for.

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Putatives are best explored and experienced on an individual level TBH. Other people’s reports are useful guidance certainly but this is the reason you won’t find any hard and fast descriptions of their properties. This is the nature of experimentation.

As for the differences between Ammo and Summer Ammo - In addition to the standard Ammo formula, Summer contains TAA and P130, which give it a more chilled/laid-back feel and you may find it hits younger than standard. Personally I need to add some TUTH or other mainly Androstenone product to boost it back in line with my age.

Although saying that, Summer Ammo and IG has proved excellent around younger (early 20s) women with me but as a not very serious sexy/social/flirty mix, not a direct sexual - but that may be different on a younger guy who will inevitably produce more natural None.

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so i guess the second choice has been made, it’s going to be ammo… still have to weight the pro cons of ammo vs summer ammo for me personally.

Does summer ammo work better than ammo on youngers (early 20s to late 20s wich is my target btw) because of the added molecules ? does this make it any less effective on older women ?

i see about the putatives…
but are the general descriptions that i gave quite realistic ?

like p93 i read that it attracts specifically caucasian (and blonde?) women for example.

i’ll re-post the second question from my previous post that is aimed to the remaining putatives

i am considering theese four, each one because of the description that i gave, point is that i don’t know if the description for each one is actually what most people that have tested them found out about theese molecules.

From theese descriptions i would rank them as it follows for a purchase preference p93>p75>p83>p86

what you guys think is the best buy out of theese 4 ? most versatile, most tested and “secure and known effects”, most effective for my needs

to keep in mind that the last molecule will be used with p96 and or ammo but i’ll look to use it stand alone. so it has to give also the best mix with p96 and/or ammo/ammo summer.

thanks a lot !

Cheers

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Edit :

Or, if you think that i would not take much advantage from any of the remaining putatives listed, i could spend the extra $$ in getting more potent p96 and/or ammo, or i could get tuth if you think that it would work better than the putatives for what i intend it.

sorry for the second post guys.

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I was about the same age as you when I first got into pheromones.

Ammo would be perfect for you, especially considering that you’re just starting out. It’s one of the first products I tried, and had great results from it. It vibe is sexy, rather than sexual (BIG difference). If you add IShine, IO, or IH to it, the results will be smashing.

TUTH is more of a mixed bag. You only want to use it when the possibility of sex happening is close to 100%. It reduces LMR and makes your lady friend feel more aroused in your presence. When used willy-nilly, it makes women think you’re a horndog and makes men act aggressive.

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I would say that i am restarting, more than starting from scratch.
Ammo and tuth i know and used them, as of other instant line products.

As of now i will be taking p96 and ammo (or summer ammo, still have to decide)

The questiona that remain are :

Should i grab one of the following putatives, p93 p75 p83 p86 and which one would be the better choice for me ?
Or is it better to drop the putatives and grab tuth ?
Or if it would be better to use the money to take more potent p96 and/or ammo instead of grabbing a third product.

Again i am looking for the best product to take out of the putatives, or tuth, and the most versatile for my needs.
So if there is a putative that has tuth like effects, even if turned down, but has also other effects i will prefer that one over tuth.

Thanks !

Cheers

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Def. P96 (at least 10mcg/spray)! It also has a beautifying effect at higher doses (40-60 mcg).
I, for example, get the best of it at 40 mcg.

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Thanks !

Does anyone have any experience using p83 + p96 together ?
And ammo + p83 + p96 ?

I think i’ll stick with standard ammo, or maybe i’ll grab to go size ammo and summer ammo, this way i can test them both, but i’d like to know how is ammo + p96 + p83 stack sound like, or how was it for those that tested this stack.

Cheers !