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what do you mean when you launch a consumer product, wont be advertising this forum or store anymore?

haven’t you already launched consumer products like ammo and instant shine?

or is there something new in the works that I do not understand?

sorry had a long day at work and maybe i misunderstood, but sounds exciting what you just posted.

I do not think I am an advance user yet, i will get there soon, but make sure you keep one door open for me before you keep it sealed forever because these pheromones are addicting is all i will tell you

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They are launching stuff for “Brick & Mortar” stores like Macys :smiley:

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Jasmin, I hope you don’t mind, but I thought I would respond to denec’s question, as well as anyone else who are new to the forum and may not to know about the incredible things happening and the future of Androtics.

What Jasmin is calling the launch of a consumer product, is making that product available through standard retail channels on a mass scale.

Ammo, Instant Shine, A314 and other products in the Mens and Womens sections of the store are considered consumer release products, but currently there are not really any other marketing channels aside from the smartmones store for selling these products.

As I understand it, they are tweaking the current Ammo product and plan on marketing it through more conventional distribution channels and selling the products in retail stores. I don’t know about this, but would expect that the retail release of Ammo will be followed up with releases of products like A314 and Instant Sexiness.

What I hope and expect this will mean for Androtics, is an influx of funds that will enable them to go from a small struggling research and development company, to a large and well respected retail provider of pheromone products, while maintaining and expanding the research capabilities.

She has also promised that regardless of anything released to the general consumer, we will always have toys that nobody else does. :slight_smile:

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Almost :wink: Androtics will remain its own entity. AMMO is to be launched under a different company name I believe. So if you purchase AMMO in the store it wont take you to this site. At least this is what I understand from Jasmins post on it.

I guess it will depend on the success of AMMO whether others will be released in the same fashion but I am sure that is a ways off.

Androtics smartmones will still remain the research and development company it is and still have great goodies for us to test out and use.

Tisha

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thanks for all the responses

i wish you much success, you guys deserve it

just curious any idea when it will go retail?

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If the products are release commercially to the store, then they are not exclusive anymore. Meaning, everybody will be wearing pheromones out in the street.
By the way, will the price be higher compare to Androtics? Or you won’t sell those products in Androtics anymore once they are launched?

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At this time only AMMO is going retail. I am unsure if they will still sell it here I assume so. The price will probably be different in stores. My guess is higher.

We will still have a edge on the compitition. From what I understand there will be no connection to this forum or smartmones and the retail product. The AMMO sold here and the one that is going retail with be slightly different. I will let Jasmin or SteveO explain what those differences are when they are ready. Its gonna be great for both the company and mone users. :slight_smile: Tisha

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That’d suck, not being able to fill all my pheromone needs (as Smartmones presently do) in the one spot. Thats one of the things I love about the place is you guys have such a mix and variety for all the different situations all in the one spot.

Okay, an idea maybe about the membership thing. If A314 goes retail and you decide maybe not to stock it anymore, why not make it one of the ones thats only available to members or something… That way, Joe Blogs (random name) who buys A314 to try it out, or buys some pheromones from Smartmones can still try stuff out, but those more serious and more regular buyers who are willing and happy to pay a membership fee can still have our pheromone needs all filled in one place. Its convenient, and cheaper (even if it costed exactly the same, it would double the shipment cost for people overseas). Especially us aussies who pay $35 for postage. And to pay that for just 1 product on top of a more expensive product?

Dunno… Just some thoughts…

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You know jamesbonded this very idea has been researched thoroughly. It usually never actually happens like that though. Many people will buy an item, use it and think it’s a magic bullet, not get over-the-top results and then stop using it. Happens everyday in marketing. The ones who are socially aware and understand dynamics of human interactions will use it successfully.

It’s like the movie The Secret: Many people got on the bandwagon and tried it without what they called success and then it was all over for them. However with proper training and help they could still be doing it and still be getting incredible success.

If anybody needs help with seduction, social awareness, PUA, pheromones and the likes you could always give me a call and I will be happy to assist you. I have my own experiences, my own “lair” here in Memphis, and I also associate with some of the very best/famous in the pickup and persuasion industries. I CAN help you!

I’m looking forward to all the new things that are happening and I can promise NO ONE will be left out in the cold.

The members here are more like friends and are loved for your individuality and as a whole we comprise the best forum on the net. You can’t find this type of quality anywhere else. Together we will make it even better.

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Yeah but the Secret is more or less a watered down belief set of what is regarded as magick. To sum it up, the will microsom manifesting from the macrosm. Microsm being the human, and the macrosm being the universe. Not to mention the emerald tablet of Thoth which alchemical influence has had massive influence throughout the course of humanity. More or less the Secret is selling a belief system.

To acknowledge the physical universe as the governing force and using one’s will to manifest what it is they desire from it. It’s a bit more of a life change and more or less embracing a religion with the universe as your god. Or your agnostic and this shit just happens sound real swell.

Where as Androtics in this case sells a physical product. But the product sells a belief with it. Science that to this day still hasn’t fully been understood and properly explained in an academical sense. Be wary of it.

Juxtaposition: Ammunition and the Secret. The Secret sells religion which can’t be proved by science and Androtics sells Ammunition which the science behind is not yet made religion when referring to science in a definitive dogmatic way of explaining everything rationally.

Time for me to remove my philosopher’s cap.

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Our similarity to The Secret would be that for the mass market, you’d have “intro” products and ongoing education.

You might think of it as watering down, and some people do that, but we’re taking a more “make some of the colors obvious” approach. Simple stuff, easier to see. Practical for everyday use.

We want our consumer product will be more like a entry-level Mac than The Secret. Accessible, polished and a little silly. Not watered down in a bad way. A good, solid product.

A new version of Ammo would be the mass market intro product. We also hope to (and are working on) good quality education to go along with it, to help people expand socially and better deal with the world they’re in.

I was personally very impressed with The Secret trailer, btw, but not the actual movie so much. I didn’t think it had the promised depth, or really went over much of anything the trailer talked about. I even think it portrays some people in a shallow light that betrays their depth.

I’ve met a few people in that movie (John Assaraf, Bill Harris from Centerpointe, Joe Vitale, etc), and some were genuinely cool, helpful people. Some are even helping with this project! And, I might mention, with with no payment to them or other types of compensation. They’re just being helpful people, like many older gentlemen are.

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Anyway, the formulas we’ve been trying for a mass market Ammo are “green” in a way. i.e., we’ve been thinking about what we call the “Emotiuonal Environment” and “Emotional Pollution”.

We’ve been thinking a lot about this.

We feel that a strong, inexpensive androstenone based product would lead to more “Emotional Pollution” in the world. Sure, it’d provide some strong proof about pheromones, but would it be a good idea to make such a product popular? I don’t think so.

That’s why, if we must include a “proof of pheromones” type product that provides beat you over the head type results, we’re going to make it super small, and overly expensive for the mass market to re-order. (and no, I don’t consider people who regularly participate on this forum to really be part of the “mass market”… you’re anything but!)

Sure, something overjuiced with androstenone might be good for a kind of immediate proof, but if it flowed like liquor did on a Friday night, well… that’s not the kind of world we want to live in. It’s already stressful enough to go out on a Friday. We don’t need buckets more -none wafting through the air!

On the other hand, if you have a product that makes people brighter, happier and cheerier, in general, then you’re actually making the world better with each and every sale. This is the opposite of something like Coca-Cola, which tastes good to many people, but kills them and puts a burden on society at least a little with each and every sale.

So the primary effects we plan are good, and so are the side effects… including the side effects in the world around them. This is how nature itself designs things. You eat something nourishing, but in doing so, you also spread the seeds for further renewal and good.

Nature thinks about the whole system of life… how to make things good for everyone and everything involved.

This is responsible thinking, and a key part of why we’re not in any rush to do things wrong.

It’s also why we’re in no rush to take outside money with strings attached. Angel investment, going public, etc. That’s just asking to be pushed around by investors who only think of money and have overall sense of responsibility.

We’re a bunch of touchy feely pansies compared to cut throat people who can only think about money. Money is not our god. Quality of life for people at large is. That’s our ultimate product. And like everything we do, we’re doing our very best to do this right. As right as we can!

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I expect nothing less from you guys. Much like the hardware geek with regards to my computer, I’m definitely a PC geek in regards to pheros. I’d say everybody is here.

The science we have right now is still conflicting and indecisive. It would be nice to get some unbiased world class lab coats to get some solid definitives. That would most definitely bolster the education department.

Well I figured a world marred by none edginess would be the primary reason. I’d say not product proof by necessarily formulation, but proof by academic science. To which it seems you guys are clearly working on.

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It would be really cool if anyone can get back to me and bump me as advanced user?

I sent a PM to SteveO, about a week ago and have not heard anything, and would love to get into testing putatives and TAA oil, would love to test TAA oil with Raw Power especially since Raw power has become my favorite now

Thanks

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Steveo will modify profiles like once a month I think, but not sure when. Raw power is the same price for everyone btw

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its not favorites or the amount of time uv been here im afraid… its more about the ratio of ur test and results vs. ur help and responses. dont worry u will be promoted, just give a good amount of tests and feed bak… if u take the time to read some of the posts by jazy and steve u will understand how to achieve this :slight_smile:

bond

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wow… my post disappeared… im sure it will pop up some time though :stuck_out_tongue:

bond

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oh i know but TAA oil is like $140. I already own Raw Power and already posted a few reports about it. Raw power works great as it is, I bet it will work superb as well and can help out texaspete with his findings as well

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I am still a little unclear on what makes you eligible to be an advanced user. Is there a set number of reviews on experimental products that you have to write or what?

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I believe it is not the “numbers of reviews”, but rather the quality and accuracy of the reports that will make you a advanced member in the long run (of course not gonna happen in a week or two)