A bit Skeptical, but Definitely Excited & Curious!!

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Hey guys,

I’ve been roaming this site for a while so I decided to jump in and tell a bit about myself today. I’ve read up on as much as I could, bought some pheromones, and began testing a bit already (2 months or so). Never had much experience before, except for a bottle of Realm for Men I got years ago (didn’t do anything, but I still have it for the cologne part lol).

To introduce myself: I’m a 30 year old South East Asian male living in the US. Although born in Asia, I grew up in France and have lived here as long. As most Asians, I guess I look younger than I am (closer to 24 than 30). I’d say I have above average, slightly boyish/cute, look. I’m about 5’9 and fit (neither muscular nor fat).

I work in financial sales so I am fairly outgoing at work since I deal with clients all the time. In social settings, I’m a pretty silly and easy going guy once you get to know me. Otherwise at first, I can be slightly reserved until I get to know you. So when I meet girls, it takes me a bit longer to create some type of connections the first time around.

Most girls find me cute, fun, and NICE in general. I actually hear these words quite often. It leads me to have many girls who enjoy hanging out with me and feel comfortable around me. BUT this, also, often lead more toward friendship than relationship in the short term.

Based on this forum’s previous discussions, is this partly due the fact that I have high levels of Androsterone and lower levels of Androstenone? Do I smell too ‘sweet’ to attract women?? lol I’m convinced it’s more on ME than my natural 'mones, but it’s been interesting to learn about how they ‘can’ possibly affect things.

I’ve dated and been involved with girls of various ethnicities from blacks to whites to Latin (not many Asians). Growing up in Europe, I mostly learned to be around white girls (French, Italians, Germans, etc…) and also Africans (Moroccan, Senegalese, etc…). Living here, I’ve learned to expand my horizon even more so and enjoy women of various backgrounds. Strangely enough, I still never really found myself connecting with Asian (American) women. So, although I’m not excluding them, I’m not trying to attract them specifically either (unless I can find a nice Euro-Asian girl here in the states :stuck_out_tongue:)

The pheromones that I have are: TUTH, IG, IH, IO, IJ (just added) and finally to-go AMMO & IS. I’ve used a combination of everything at one time or another without much result (1x to 2x spray at a time)

In clubbing and bar scene, I’m always wondering if it’s the drinks or the music or the actual 'mones? The most obvious result I got is from this girl I know who kept saying: “Wow you smell so good” (said it several times that night while were closely dancing but not much more than that)

That night, I used 3 to 4 sprays of TUTH + 1x IS + 1x IO with not much results. But I don’t believe I OD’ed either as I was talking and dancing with my female friends as I usually would. Other women were not running away from me (got a couple of look and smiles I think) while guys were not trying to beat me up. I’m still testing IJ so I’ll let you know what I see any reactions from that in future club scene.

Even better, I’ve used a couple of sprays of TUTH in a work setting buffered with IG. I barely noticed anything except small compliments from co-workers about how well I dressed that day and this client might have checked me out for a second.

In more social & work events, I’m definitely noticing much less results in general. Not much self-effect nor effect on others. What I do notice is so SUBTLE that it could be anything… Bad day or good day for people around me. OR perhaps I was funny today but not the next. Maybe I dressed well and did look and feel like James Bond so that’s why the client felt like chatting more than usual that day. BUT it’s not anything I would think: “Wow that’s different!! What was that?”

I’m not discrediting the products at all in any way. I think they DO work in the RIGHT working situation (distance, room temperature, humidity, combination of sprays, persons involved, timing). I mean I have noticed things happening to a certain level, but it’s not magic (as others have mentioned).

SO I guess my questions are: What I am supposed to REALLY notice that I am missing right now? Am I expecting too much? I’m a fairly good judge of character and I’m not seeing changes in people. What combination should I try based on my background (socially & professionally)? Should I just increase my dosage?

Thanks for any help (but sorry for the long post)! :smiley:

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Welcome to the forum.

Most users have said that Asians produce less none. Also, getting older causes you to produce less as well. Even your blood type can effect your natural pheromone production.

I would definitely suggest increasing your dosages. You could stand to use slightly more sexual mones but definitely increase the socials. For instance, with that 3-4 sprays TUTH, 1x IS, and 1x IO, I would suggest bumping IS and IO to at least 2-3 sprays, maybe more. Hits can be blatant or subtle depending on the situation, mix, etc. You just have to be aware of your surroundings and what would be consider IOI’s from females, out of the ordinary behavior from males, etc.

Good luck.

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Welcome to Pherotalk Digitalace!,

Note: you mentioned a couple of girls smiled at you, personally, I take this as a hit, But you have to remember that you have to push the interaction along in order to see if to was the pheromones or not. You may have started talking to her and then she starts to really get into and says, “you know I was really drawn into you by your scent, what’s that cologne you’re wearing?”and during your conversation she keeps touching you. Then you would “KNOW” that it was the pheromones. On the other hand you could start talking and she could say I was drawn to your clothes. But if she smiles at you and you don’t do anything about it then you’re right, it could be ANYTHING.

Another thing is that you mentioned that you weren’t really seeing too much from your co workers. This is because they are probably used to your old signature and that’s mentally ingrained in them so it will take a little time for them to adjust to the new signature you are giving off and if you keep switching products and combinations that could also be confusing to them. Plus there are a lot of other things that may be involved like maybe they did feel something sexual for you, but they were in the workplace so they suppressed it….etc

Because of this paragraph:
“In clubbing and bar scene, I’m always wondering if it’s the drinks or the music or the actual ’ mones ? The most obvious result I got is from this girl I know who kept saying: “Wow you smell so good” (said it several times that night while were closely dancing but not much more than that)”

I think it will be very important to ask yourself WHAT EXACTLY DO I WANT TO SEE FROM PHEROMONES? (for example you may define what you want to see as a girl coming up and saying hi to you)(This will set a clear goal -how can we find what we want if we don’t know what we are looking for :slight_smile:)

I think that if you do these things it will help you a lot in seeing results from your pheromones.

I feel you should stop using pheromones for 3 days and write everything that happens to you down during those 3 days. (This will really help you to set a base from which you can measure your results from)

.After that I feel that in order to be able to really notice results and get what you are looking for that you should START COMPLETELY OVER AGAIN with your products and test to find out what you sweet spot for each product is.

Using this guide from the Legendary Steve for each product separately:

How to find your sweet spot... (How to find your sweet spot...)

That is the best way to learn how to use pheromones. I remember when I started mixing products together before I had found all of my sweet spots and sometimes it would work out - that’s what kept me experimenting- but many times I would get nothing and I would blame all the products I used-( that how I ended up disliking Instant Openness for a while) Then finally I started going back and finding my sweet spot for the products I hadn’t done that for and that is when I really started seeing hits(this is when I found out Instant Openness really does work -I had just been using it wrong) and then it snowballed on into the point today where I am in love with pheromones. Finding your sweet spot for every product you own is VERY IMPORTANT because every time you make a mix you are adding in new variables and unless you know each separate product well your results will be a toss up.

I feel that starting over will also give you a chance to start over mentally. This will restore your faith in pheromones and finding you sweet spot will allow the pheromones to work their magic.

I think that if you actually start over and find all of your sweet spots you Will Be happy with your results

Please keep posting so that we can help you along the way. Everybody wants to help each other succeed with pheromones and be able to get the results that they want out of them. So, don’t be afraid to ask even more questions and post so that we can offer advice and help you get what you want

ClintX2

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Hey digitlace, you did well coming to us :slight_smile: .

I suggest you take a look into this thread, you will find usefull :wink: .

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Thanks Theboggieman & ClintX2.

ClintX2, You’ve made some good points regarding my personal experience with the 'mones so far. I think I’ll just take a few step back and start over with my experimenting.

Most importantly, I will take a bit more time in regards to the entire process of testing and my own expectations out of this.

I will certainly ask more questions as soon as I read up on everyone’s recommended links and posts for newbies like me :smiley:

Falcos,

Thank you for the link. I will be trying to absorb as much as I can! I’ve gotten quite a few links today so I’ve got lots to catch up and read.

Cheers…

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Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too :slight_smile:.

I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too :slight_smile:. Its cool!

Of course Steve is available to answer any question you might have regarding mones and you can speak to him personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and he will be able to consult you one on one.

Welcome to the forum.