a complicated situation ... advice appreciated

Hi everybody

First of all an apology if this is not in the right ‘group’, i am not sure if this is a strictly heterosexual group or not!

I have a somewhat complicated situation on hand (female same-sex relationship) so sorry about the length of this post as well.

A little about myself: I am late 20s, asian, average height/build. I project somewhat of an androgynous sort of image - I definitely don’t behave girly at all.

Her: She is in her 30s, asian. Dominant, bossy, aggressive. Likes the occasional no-strings-attached one night stand. By her own admission, she needs someone of superior intelligence to dominate her.

We’re in Asia and the weather is always hot – temperatures in the 30s (Celsius) or 90s (Fahrenheit) – and very humid at 80-90% humidity every day.

Before me, she had always been straight. Never even thought about experimenting … until I came along. We had a great relationship for just over two years, were very happy, sex was great etc. Towards the end however, she started pulling away and eventually said she wanted to end things as she felt she was fundamentally straight. I naturally couldn’t quite accept her reasoning as, after all, she couldn’t really have been straight if we had had great sex for two years.

This was three months ago, and since then we’ve still been great friends. In fact she’s said she doesn’t want things to change between us – i.e. we have the emotional commitment, we get along great in all respects, we are physically close and comfortable with each other, we just don’t have the sex. In all other respects we behave as if we’re still together, and people have asked if we are. (note: it’s not that she’s lost her sex drive completely, because after we broke up she slept with a guy.)

I’m wondering if there’s anything I could use that would perhaps help to ‘awaken’ her sexual drive for me. I’ve read loads of posts on this forum but I still can’t really figure out what to do because of the complicated confluence of factors here … is she straight? Bisexual? Experimenting? Confused? I don’t know how her nose works either (aside from the fact that it’s often blocked and congested, but nothing a little pseudoephedrine cant take care of).

I bought a few products from love-scent recently: WAGG, NPA (W) (with Pheromol Factor), liquid trust. Along with some gel packs of SOE (M), AE (W), and perception. So far LT has done absolutely nothing at 3-4 sprays at neck and chest level just prior to meeting her. No reaction from all of the gel packs as well. Nothing from the PF. Nothing from NPA (W) at one drop spread over wrists and neck, except for giving myself a headache (none of the aggression or OD signals either). The only thing that might have possibly gotten any reaction has been WAGG, one drop tipped over the back of my hand (I actually like the way it smells after a while, kind of a faint sweet muskiness) – which has tended to make us both very friendly and chatty. But there’s been absolutely no reaction on her part to say “let’s have sex” although there’s been a fair bit of platonic snuggling and cuddling, enough to make me wonder WTF?

What would you guys suggest – knowing that this is someone who needs to be dominated and I’m not naturally the aggressive sort? Or is it a lost cause altogether? She might very well be suppressing any urges after all since she’s as much as admitted she was never going to come out of the closet.

Any input would be very much appreciated!

Hey zapper, welcome! :slight_smile:

“…she needs someone of superior intelligence to dominate her…”

You can try experimenting with some of more dominant mixes.
MX105, MX134/ISexi A and TUTH would be my suggestion for this.

OR you can enhance your femininity and let her see the beauty in that.
MX135 would be my suggestion if you choose to take this route.

First of all, this is a very open group! Please feel welcome here :slight_smile:

Well, if she’s said she’s never going to come out of the closet, she might be embarrassed or ashamed… and that is likely the reason. You said that she slept with a guy after you two broke up. Was this only once or twice, or was this an actual relationship? What I’m thinking is that maybe she had sex with him just to prove to herself that she isn’t homosexual, and doesn’t prefer women over what is socially more acceptable. It sounds so far like she’s repressing her sexuality. :frowning:

My guess on what to use would be a -none product like Turn Up the Heat. I did see a post at some point about a woman using copulins to arouse her female partner though… Men are usually the ‘victims’ of copulins, but I suppose anyone who is biologically attracted to women would have a similar response?

I think for now you should pair -none with social pheros. Sexuality rounded out with nice fuzzy feelings… hmm… maybe even Ammo might work? There’s the same amount of -none per spray as Turn Up the Heat, but with social buffers. Ah, but it comes in a men’s cologne… if you don’t mind that, I would suggest trying a to-go. If smelling like a guy bothers you, maybe go for to-gos of Turn Up The Heat and Instant Shine or Honesty.

Nbully has got some great suggestions too.

And don’t forget to post in the New Members forum. You get a nifty $15 gift certificate for the Androtics store :smiley:

thanks, nbully and tealeaves! will check out your suggestions, the $15 gift cert will certainly help!

would it be better to go for an alcohol-based or oil-based product in a hot and humid environment? the products i have right now are all alcohol-based. maybe that’s why they dont seem to work so well?

I live in the exact same weather conditions… and I would say I get maximum benifits from oil based products (a314) I can smell it on me all day, even the following day when I wake up. Although thats just the smell, I dunno if pheromones last that long.

Alcohol based on the other hand (instant shine togo bottle) seems to give huge boosts but burns out really quick. 3 hours average.

Traditionally, where I live (India) people only used essential oils as fragrances. Weather conditions might be the reason for that.

The Androtics store says this about oil-based products:

Sooo… I wouldn’t know for certain, since you said you live in an area with high humidity, but she would be pretty close to you a lot of the time, right? I think oil-based products would be better, actually.

You could also slow the diffusion of the alcohol-based products by applying lotion or something over them.

Welcome Zapper! You’ll find we’re a very open and accepting group here.

The suggestions above are great. And if you don’t like men’s fragrances, there is the option to change the fragrance to neroli, a citrusy scent I really like, or unscented under Men’s Frangrance Customization. You can do this for Ammo & Turn Up The Heat.

Another product I might suggest if Instant Female Magic. I haven’t played with it yet (although I have the men’s version), but word is it’s kind of a warm & fuzzy stress reducer and can lower a woman’s inhibitions… let her be more expressive &/or agressive.

It depends on how masculine she or you want you to seem… MX131 has Turn Up The Heat + alpha-nol + MX102 (a sprayable version of A314) in it. Might be a little overbearing for you, I don’t know.

MX200 might be nice to try, too, since it’s known as “Asian Persuasion” :smiley:

Have fun!!!

thank you everybody! this forum is great - i’ve put in an order and look forward to getting it. will post my results!