A gay, transgender guy and his pheromones

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Ha ha, I’m not 19 either! But I’ll take your word for it, for now :wink:

Yeah, I find the whole not kissing thing weird. But then again, humans are weird creatures. Like you said, it’s usually either closeted or cheating or some kind of deception going on, though sometimes guys just have issues with anything resembling emotional intimacy.

I don’t have P96 yet. I got P102 as a freebie in my last order, which (from the bit I’ve skimmed) seems to augment whatever mones one wears. Have you tried using that at all?

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Quick update:

Nothing exciting to report. I’ve been getting more familiar with Instant Gentlemen (2-3 sprays neck and wrists) in work and social settings and find IG is similar though slightly weaker to A314 in keeping me focused. I’m going to try higher doses to get more noticeable self-effects.

I also got to try MX297 in a few social situations, but alcohol was also involved and that normally makes me chatty, so I couldn’t definitively say whether MX297 played a role. I’ve got some interesting social and work situations coming up where I’ll try this and the new P102 more carefully.

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Situation
This past weekend was Black Pride and I wanted to try out Ammo in (what I assumed would be) a sexually liberated space. Turns out it was far more conservative than other pride events/queer spaces I’ve been to, which made Ammo all the more interesting to experiment with.

Because I was expecting skimpy shorts and (semi-)nude men running around, I thought I’d be somewhat tame wearing leggings and a long t-shirt. Some guys were wearing shorts that would cause a second glance but only because guys don’t usually wear shorts that short. Needless to say, I was probably among the more “provocative” dressed among the crowd…oops!

Pheromones
Ammo To Go 1x strength (Summer 2012 edition) - 3 sprays to neck

Observations
As I said, compared to other queer spaces I’ve been to, this was a relatively tame and conservative event. Some folks were even wearing their military uniforms, not in a sexual way, but to show pride in serving, I guess. I wasn’t expecting much from my mones, perhaps some turned heads and MAYBE some flirting (I’m horrible at flirting), but I was not expecting to hook up or anything.

At one point a guy approached me. We chatted for a bit and he asked if I was a dancer because of how I was dressed (I’m not) and said I was cute. He said he needed help looking for a restroom and innocently I offered to help him, thinking nothing of it. As we looked around, he mentioned a few more times that I was cute, and asked if I thought he was cute. He wasn’t bad on the eyes, and I told him he was an attractive guy. When we finally found the restroom, he beckoned me to come inside and I thought, “What the heck? Let’s see where this goes.” I wasn’t looking for sex, but this was a rather new experience and I was curious to see how it would turn out. He immediately hugged me, grabbed my butt, and nuzzled my neck where I sprayed the Ammo. We kissed for a bit and ended up having sex. It was kinda quick (!) and totally unexpected. I’ve only had sex in a public restroom once before that was also unexpected. When he finished, he insisted that I not to tell anyone, which I thought was strange. I joked and asked why was he worried, did he think I’d tweet about it? He gave an unconvincing response that he didn’t want to get in trouble because we were in the restroom together. Vibes from him were kinda iffy, so when he asked me for my number, I gave him one of my burners. I don’t really plan to see him or talk much with him.

Conclusion
I’ve worn Ammo at this strength (3 sprays) around gay men before as part of an even more sexual mix (see Posts #24 and #25), yet hadn’t gotten more than an innocent compliment, so I was very surprised by this reaction. I’m guessing my outfit unintentionally signaled sexual availability in a way that mones on their own had not. To be honest, I felt pretty self-conscious with what I was wearing and unless I know for sure other guys will be dressed in more revealing attire, I’m not sure I’d have the guts to go out like this again and do a repeat test. Still, this was a fun experiment.

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Situation
I’ve played with my n00b set of pheros quite a bit over the last few weeks, but haven’t been able to update this journal. Normally, I would go in chronological order, but I had to post about the fun I had tonight with TUTH.

I was feeling a little frisky today, so after work, I found a local guy online and we arranged to meet up. He’s a bit younger than me (which I normally don’t go for) but very friendly and chatty via text. I showered, sprayed on my mones, and headed out.

Pheromones
TUTH To Go – 4 sprays (yes, four!) to neck

Observations
I took a Lyft and can’t say I noticed anything about the driver. Some are very talkative (with or without me wearing social mones) and others are pretty quiet. This driver was a quiet one.

Once I got to his place, he welcomed me at the door and apologized for how hot his place was (it was pretty warm, even for me). He seemed a little nervous and usually I am, too. However, tonight I felt like I should be the more forward one if he wasn’t going to make the first move. We settled on the couch and I offered to give him a back rub. From there, clothes were eventually discarded and we got into some deep kissing.

I’d told him before that I’m a big kisser and cuddler, which he said he really liked as well. After what seemed like a good 20 minutes of making out, he asked if I wanted to take things to his bedroom. I’ll spare you all the intimate details, but let’s just say we went a good three rounds before he had to leave to meet up with some friends for an event. We had a pretty good vibe, very sexy, passionate, but still light and playful. I quickly found his spots that make him go weak and attacked them mercilessly. :smiley: I can’t say that was due to TUTH because I’ve always loved teasing my partner just enough, even before I started using mones. Yeah, I’m pretty evil. :cool:

After the first round, he joked and said I should be locked up because I was too dangerous. I took this to mean he wanted more teasing, so I made out with him some more and got him ready for a second round. While we took a break to get water and let him recharge, he joked some more about me needing to be locked up, that there should be a law made to stop me because I was just ‘too much’. Of course I couldn’t let him get away with that slander without giving him a sexy little show and making him want a third round. :smiley: I would have stayed longer, but I wanted to respect his time and his prior commitment with his friends. He admitted he was already late, but that he had such a great time with me, he didn’t care if his friends got mad. We were tired but energized in the way that a great romp in the sheets does to you. We kissed a long goodbye and agreed we’d meet up again: he had some positions he wanted to try and I assured him we’d try next time.

Conclusion

I wasn’t sure if 4 sprays would be too much, but it looks like it works very well. I definitely want to try this level a few more times, and maybe even up it to 5 sprays. Even though I’m on testosterone, I don’t naturally produce that much pheromones on my own, so I think I can afford to get to OD levels without negative effects.

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I think you intimidated the driver a little bit with that TUTH of yours. You’re 31, so at your age, 4 sprays of TUTH might be too much. Since he was driving you, aggression on his part (common response in men to TUTH) was out of the question. Or if the driver was a woman, your sexual vibe was too strong. So the driver clammed up. I’m almost the same age as you, and I generally limit it at 3.

I know very little about the pheromone’s effect on LGBT’s, but going by own experiences, I’d say use 3 instead of 4 sprays of TUTH.

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My main target wasn’t the driver, so I wasn’t all too worried about his reaction (and as I said, even when I’m wearing sociable mones drivers may not engage much). 4 seems to work wonders for intimate encounters, though, which is where it counts :wink:

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I need some help desperatly!!!

What is the best mix combo for my situation

I’m facing a big issue with my boyfriend. I’m white gay passive 36 yo but he is Bi-sexual black dominant 35 active.
We are in a stage where he does not want to even talk to me. We got in argue where he is very disappointed and lost his trust and sexual attention in me. He just lost totally interest in me. What is the best combo mix to take all his anger and that distance away, get back his trust and strong sexual attention, make him feel good, open and comfortable with me with that warmness and love feeling with joyful and happiness. Something that will pull him like a magnet back to me. He is normally under a lot of stress on the daily basics so also something that will make him feel relief in a way.
I’m going to see him once more and this is the actually only time that I can use to make him feel.
Should I mix with Mystery boy with something or something different?

I’m so desperate because he mean a lot to me :frowning:
Please help me

I created a seperate journal for my issue

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Happy new year all! I’m still here!

I didn’t realize I didn’t update since…JULY! :open_mouth: I was/am still using mones here and there, and taking paper-and-pencil notes, but I guess I forgot to post them here. Whoops.

A few things have happened in the ensuing months: I moved, got a new job (which I hate, ugh…), and am thinking about what my next move should be in 2017. I also ran out of my 8 (in)famous year old bottle of A314 and a few other staples, so I’m looking into which mones to repurchase and which to try. Oh, and I happen to still have the gift certificate I received for my birthday (woot!), so my wallet will be happier with me.

Right now, I’m looking to get A314 1.32A To Go spray (because full size is too $$$ after the holidays), TUTH To Go stealth, IS double strength (since I never got noticeable effects even when trying to OD with 5+ sprays in regular strength), P74 10 mcg, Ammo stealth, and TAA 5 mcg. I know you’re supposed to wear something to mask the smell of certain mones, but I tend to wear my own fragrances that sometimes clash with neroli and don’t want to be limited to blue summer or whatever cologne scent the mones ship with. I find the neroli at 6% “lightly” scented is too much for me, too. I’d rather add my own scent.

One thing I’m not sure about is what dosage I should be starting with. For whatever reason, I feel like I need stronger dosages than most people to notice effects (except for A314), and that getting something weaker, like 1.25 mcg or something would be paying more for less of a product, if that makes sense. But then I also have no idea if I’m starting with something that is already too highly dosed at 5 mcg, such that what I’m perceiving as “no effect” is really me ODing. Should I be starting with the lowest dosage 626 nanograms and then work my way up? If I’m going with stealth, that should be OK in terms of overwhelming fragrance, right?

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With the stealth diffusion technology available, starting low is the standard recommendation as you search for your sweetspot. The fragrance issue caused by double or multiple sprays is non-existent with stealth.

2.5mcg is a safe strength to start with, if your molecule of choice is with fragrance.

Regarding Neroli, if the 6% scent is too much for you, you can either try it in 3% or get your product in the stealth and use your favorite cologne as the cover scent instead. :slight_smile:

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Nice hearing from you Zedster. Please drop by more often in 2017. It’s always nice reading your journal. You’ve been through eight bottle of A314 in a year? Wow. I guess you enjoy the stuff, hehe.

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Thanks, I plan to be more active this time around.

Regarding A314, it’s the opposite: I had an 8 year old bottle of A314 that I hardly used, finally finished it a few months ago!

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Great plan!

Oh, sorry I misread about the A314, lol.

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If I’m using stealth, should I go less than 2.5mcg? I plan on trying A314 in 3% (my brain now associates that mone with Neroli, lol).

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Stealth or not, you can use the same dosage IMO. You’ll see if you need a cover scent of some sort at the chosen dose.

I don’t think the A314 is available in 3% fragrance?

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Yeah. A314 is not available in 3% :frowning: And regular A314’s fragrance is not Neroli, it’s Akuto. :slight_smile:

Also being stealth does not mean the dosage has upped or lowered. It’s still the same 2.5 or 5 or 1.25mcg, fragranced or unscented. :slight_smile:

The good thing about the stealth is that you can use it in environments where fragrance is not welcome at all. And when a fragrance is a must, your fave cologne can be used as your perfect cover. In fact, they might think that your cologne is the one giving them the effect and if they liked it, they might order the same cologne in no time hahahaha! Perfume salespersons out there, hear! hear! :smiley:

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Ah, it must be the A314 oil that is Neroli. This will be my first time trying the spray.

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A314 oil’s fragrance is akuto too, hehe.

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When I first tried A oil in Nude I had to get used to the idea of mones not being scented, but once I got the self effects my worries went away. It is different, but I think you will like it.

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It wasn’t 8 years ago! Lol :smiley:

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Ooooh. Vintage oddity that is then :smiley:.