It went very well, the bulk of the meeting spent taking care of the business at hand. We were sitting at a table across each other, lots of smiling, eye contact and some accidental finger touching. It was sunny outside, although on the cool side (50s), so later we moved outside and sat at a park bench, me keeping a proper distance. The highlight at the bench was her coming around and sitting on the other side closer to me, “to shield me from the wind”, because I didn’t have a coat with me. I was happy . Other than that, when we were done with work, we discussed more personal stuff (but not too personal) and time went by quickly. All in all, a very pleasurable experience. I’m thinking of stepping up the Instant Honesty next time, which won’t be till the first week of June, because she’s going to Japan for a couple of weeks after she’s done with finals this week.
I’ll see her again tomorrow evening at the Japanese language group, where I’m thinking of trying the Instant Gentleman + p74 combo (my first experience with p74).
ah, success, a good time. Makes me smile knowing it went well. Sounds like you had great results. Let us know how your Gentleman + 74 goes. Great report. Did you guys start inside a building at first then moved outside to a park?
Exactly, still on campus, in front of a pond. Very romantic . Actually, she was the one who suggested it (I’m not familiar with the campus), asking me if I’d like to go outside so I can smoke. My wife would’ve chained me inside so that I couldn’t smoke (I don’t smoke at home). Got to go reply to a long email she just sent me…
The good people at Androtics will never stop to amaze me. Not only did I get my order delivered today via next day, when I had asked for the free ground service, but they threw in Instant Openness and Instant Shine togo freebies!
So now I have more toys to play with: Instant Shine 2x, Instant Honesty 2x but especially mx200 and mx105. W emailed me today and told me she’s not going to the social group this evening (studying for exams) but instead asked me to meet her at Starbucks tonight. I may still go to the group for a short time because it starts earlier, but I’m definitely going to see her. This may delay my plans for trying Instant Gentleman + p74, because I don’t want to freak her out with a totally different signature (although it will be a different time of day).
I’m totally open to suggestions for tonight, based on what I have, including the new MX goodies.
ETA: Some of the ideas I’m kicking around:
mx105 + ih. I believe that’s been referred to as MadTater’s Japanese mix (although I haven’t been able to find it in his journal). I’m thinking 1:2 or greater ratio; the reference I saw simply mentioned mx105 + ih 4x.
mx200 + something. I’ve been waiting for this and now that I got it, it’s burning a hole in my pocket
stick with ishine + ih but bump up the ih
too many alternatives to mention. Basically, I prefer not to use more than one things I haven’t tried before
I’ve found that you can change your signature and most people won’t notice TOO much IF your signature isn’t a huge change. Usually if you just add something to your “base” mix, you’ll get a raised eyebrow here, a curious look there, a “something’s different, but in a good way” type thing. It depends on how close your target feels around you and how radical the change is. It’s like hot glass and cold water, if you want to cool down extremely hot glass, you don’t pour cold ice water over it. The glass has a high chance of cracking and breaking. Same thing with your target, if your pheros are on one end of the phero spectrum and you move suddenly to the other side, you’ll get a “what the fuck” confused reaction, or maybe a ghost effect, or maybe nothing at all. Depends on the person. So if you’re going to change your sig, change it slowly. That’s how I feel about it, not sure if any of the more experienced users would agree with me. Hopefully some of them will weigh in on this.
I think the ability to handle different phero sigs is similar to the ability to handle higher levels of pheros without ODing. It seems to tie in to the ability to evaluate the energy of a scene, and either quickly connect with that energy and vibe with it, or change the energy of the scene to vibe with themselves. If you can adapt to shifting energies quickly, I think you would do okay with different phero sigs.
ah, I can see what you mean. I don’t change energies well, so I find it hard to change phero sigs radically. Thats why I prefer to gradually change sigs or add the extreme one to a base thats already established and slowly move towards that from there. I can evaluate the environment as long as I’m an observer and not actually in it. xD
The “problem” is that my relationship with W has been growing so quickly, I don’t have a chance to try different things. She seems to like everything anyway . It sounds strange to hear myself say that, but I’m almost glad she’s going to be gone for a couple of weeks, so that I can take a step back and reflect on what has happened in the last 10 days or so, pheros or not. It’s a delicate path we’re tip-toeing on and I don’t want to screw up her own marital situation, as messed up as mine is.
Ok, moderation is hitting me more often lately than in my first few days. Or maybe I’m more impatient today. Did you guys have a chance to read my edited post above?
ETA: Or perhaps I never posted that message? I was under the impression that once a message is held up, subsequent ones would be held too.
I’ll try recalling what I posted earlier in case I messed up somehow. If a duplicate post shows up, I’ll delete it when I get back.
The “problem” is that my relationship with W has been growing so quickly, I don’t have a chance to try different things. She seems to like everything anyway. It sounds strange to hear myself say that, but I’m almost glad she’s going to be gone for a couple of weeks, so that I can take a step back and reflect on what has happened in the last 10 days or so, pheros or not. It’s a delicate path we’re tip-toeing on and I respect her too much to run the risk of affecting her own marital situation, as messed up as mine is.
ETA: It just showed up, along with this one. It’s in a weird order in the thread, I’ll just go ahead and delete that one.
You might want to try MX105 +MX200 + Honesty 4x. Thats one I’m going to try once I find my sweet spots with all 3. Honesty 4x is supposed to be awesome with Asians, so is MX105 and 200. My only concern is that too much of a good thing can turn into a bad thing. I don’t know if anyone has tried that combo yet, but in theory, it should kick ass. Then again, the best laid plans…
Omph, once you hit 50, you will no longer be moderated. So, one more post and no more moderation. Sometimes your post takes longer to show cause mods aren’t always around. They have to clear you and stuff. But your next few posts will get you to 50, and that will leave you to post to your heart’s desire. =D
Good to hear about the 50 post threshold. Just a few more pointless posts then
Ended up going with mx105 x2 and Instant Honesty x4 (togo). Meant to add some Instant Shine but I hid it too well in the car and couldn’t find it on time . I find myself reaching for the shine often, I like the self effects…
Anyway, we ended up spending more than 4 hours together and had a great conversation on topics including but not limited to personal backgrounds, family, school, work, cultural differences and prejudices, religion, philosophy and even metaphysics and the supernatural . It was very stimulating and refreshing as I’m not accustomed to have such a deep and diverse conversation with one person in one sitting, especially with no alcohol or other traditional mind altering substances involved. Overall it was a blast.
I think I’m starting to like this Instant Honesty stuff, I only wish I’d picked up the 4x instead of 2x.
I will probably meet her again soon and I’ll try some mx200 combo next, but probably not with the mx105 yet. I also need to try the p74 sometime and bring Instant Gentleman back into the rotation.
ETA: Weird, I thought I was closer to 50 too. I must’ve dropped some posts somewhere. No matter, I’ll get there eventually. (heh, come to think of it, I should prolly double and triple post instead of editing)
A report from my first test of Instant Gentleman + p74 from yesterday. I’ll keep it short because work has been kicking my butt recently.
2x Instant Gentleman to throat/upper chest
1x p74 to wrists, 1x to back of neck
2x Instant Shine (togo) to back of head/neck
Met W for breakfast. When I arrived she was already sitting at a booth and, within seconds of me arriving, she was beaming. She was supposed to be studying for finals and me preparing for an afternoon presentation at work, but neither of us got anything done. Lots of talk, showing each other pictures, etc. In a sense I’m almost glad W will be going to Japan at the end of the week, so that I can get some work done
3 hours later I had to drag myself away and head to work. Upon arrival I added 1x Instant Shine to hair (it had been a little over 4 hours since initial application. The Korean woman I work (and take smoke breaks with) with, seemed to make more eye contact than usual and everybody else was more pleasant and chatty. At the first smoke break, 2 non-smokers followed us downstairs. On later breaks, the woman was inclined to talk about non-work stuff and even proceeded to show me fly bites on her arms she’d gotten from her recent trip to Florida (she was wearing long sleeves). I also noticed some instances of her rubbing the side of her neck and one of playing with her hair.
Overall, I would consider this test a success. I will try upping the p74 next time. Not sure if mx200 will be next. Waiting for your reports using it, Zeph
. Other than that, when we were done with work, we discussed more personal stuff (but not too personal) and time went by quickly. All in all, a very pleasurable experience. I’m thinking of stepping up the Instant Honesty next time, which won’t be till the first week of June, because she’s going to Japan for a couple of weeks after she’s done with finals this week.
(I don’t smoke at home). Got to go reply to a long email she just sent me…
