Tell me about this wierd picture of me. THIS I need to hear…:o
“Absorb what is useful; reject what is useless.” - Bruce Fricking Lee
Throughout December my diet and schedule is going to be insane.
I’m working an extra shift every week, droppping my weight training to twice a week, and riding my bike + doing yoga daily. Also have an interview on the 5th for a staff position with a local
chain of emergency clinics. Let’s just say that it’s a “high-testosterone and high-stress” month. According to another thread, cortisol output supposedly attracts women. Well, I’ll be cranking out a lot of that this
month.
I will also be using straight up A314 by itself, beginning Monday November 27th, to see what happens, but I’m not sure it will work at all. There is a lot of dogmatic presupposition and psychological construction that goes into A314 usage on this forum, and its use has become
accepted without doubt by many people. Me? I think it effects me, and my actions and attitude effect other people. I’m not sure it directly effects others. As usual I’ve journeyed from total disbelief and skepticism to casual acceptance, and I’m now back to a more healthy level of what I call “balanced skepticism and reactionary nonconformity”. I’m also entertaining the idea that A314’s effects could possibly be 100% from a placebo effect.
I intend to revisit and re-evaluate its use it for a month, but because of the intensity of my diet and schedule, I don’t know if I can accurately assess it’s effect on myself or other people because I may turn into a raging Biatch or an aggro prick (As in “more of a prick than usual”).
I’ve warned my coworkers about possible moodiness caused by the diet, but maybe I should not have done that. Now they’ll be pre-disposed to saying "Pete*, have a shake, you’re being an obnoxious prick."*
If I remember correctly, I get very raunchy, short tempered, and curse like a sailor when I’m always hungry.
This will take some self control.
My diet will normalize after a month, at which point I will probably begin a “Grey market pharmaceutical assistance” program for a few months, so even after I’m off the liquid phase of my diet, my metabolism will still be off the chart. But at least I won’t be starving.
Having said all of that, here is my planned progression of A314 use. I plan to ramp up the doses over 4 weeks, but it’s possible that 4 drops will intolerable to me and/ or my peers. If at any point it becomes obvious that I’m using too much, then I will back off the dose to what appears
to be a comfortable level. I’ll try my best to avoid using any other -pheromones, but weekends will be likely exceptions to this since I will be celebrating Christmas early, as well as Hannukah, and will likely spend New Years “babysitting” my 100 year old Grandparents at home in NY.
This schedule assumes my waning bottle of A314 will last to the end of the month. It may not, because it’s about 45% full.
Week 1= One drop /day
Week 2= Two drops /day
Week 3= Three drops /day
Week 4 = Four drops /day
My diet and schedule will definitely effect my cortisol levels and probably my pheromone output, and as noted in my original A314/IS thread by MHarris, “the bodybuilder stack” (as he calls it) can skew my results. Therefor I’m going to detail “the bodybuilder stack” below so you can glean from it what you may. Commentary as always is welcome, including negative responses, but this time I expect a disproportionate amount of negativity so pardon me while I get this out of my system - consideer this a preemptive strike- naysayers can just suck it.
A Heads Up: After Decemeber I’ll be done experimenting with -pheromones and will move on to using specific products, so you won’t see many posts by me and little to no blogging on this thread.
My diet:
As I mentioned, it’s whacked…
As in Insane…
Off the fricking hook…
97% LIQUID…
As in one meal a week. I’m essentially living on meal Replacement drinks.
My supplements revolve around making me healthier and “more manly” - QUICKLY - fatty acids, fiber, and a testosterone booster. For you UK readers, I don’t want to go into my martial arts classes as a veteran who is “all mouth and no trousers”. I’m also taking Cranberry concentrate
and a herbal immune booster on top of frequent doses of vitamins and minerals, for health reasons. I’m already sick - again - with a massively annoying cough which I picked up at work, but I’m not letting it interfere with my schedule. If I can get out of bed, then I go to work,
so I should also be able to exercise… dammit.
I should lose my final 16-20 pounds this month and be in good enough shape to make it through daily martial arts classes without a CVA or heart attack. That’s my goal - to survive Martial Arts classes! The Martial Arts training itself will get me back into “fighting shape”. This diet drops weight, influences your dietary cravings, lowers cholesterol faster than anything else known to man (or womyn, you crazy witches), and normalizes blood pressure. I’ve already dropped my cholesterol and have a low-normal BP, so those aren’t issues I have to worry about but they
are positive points that some members of this forum might like to know about. The dietary cravings side effect is interesting and part of the reason I’m committed to this mad experiment -
supposedly it makes you crave veggies.
Yep, crave veggies. I know. That’s “Hard to swallow”, right? 
Training: I’m on a traditional bodybuilding program right now and I’m not enthusiastic about it.Been there, done that. It’s boring and I’ve seen little to no results due to inconsistency on my part. I’m switching to a simple 2 day a week weightlifting program designed by Chad Waterbury,
called the “10x3 For Fat Loss” program and I will be doing “Tabata Intervals” on my bike, DAILY. I’m already doing intervals, but not daily. I will also be doing a 30 minute Power Yoga workout daily and alternating between 5 and 6 day workweeks as opposed to my current 4 and 5 day
rotation. This will easily finance my Martial Arts obsession and Pheromone habit. I just need to figure out a way to calm down at the end of my day and fall asleep quickly. Herbal teas don’t help. I’m investigating buying myself a Sound/Light-machine for my Post-Christmas present to
myself. That and a decent camera. Oh, and a 1990 BMW 330xi, and…
Here are links that will fill in the details for this, my "Short ANTI-fat Guy Experiment":
The Velocity Diet:
Testosterone Nation - The New V-Diet Test Drive
chad Waterbury’s 10x3 for Fat Loss:
Testosterone Nation - 10 x 3 For Fat Loss
tabata Intervals:
Lean & Hungry Fitness: Tabata Intervals
Rodney Yee Power Yoga:
Yoga DVDS
Metabolic Drive Complete, Meal replacements:
Testosterone Nation - NEW! Metabolic Drive COMPLETE!
Alpha Male, Testosterone booster:
Testosterone Nation - Super Concentrated Alpha Male
Sound and Light Machines:
MindMachines.com
Wow,
that is very ambitious Pete! I don’t think that I could stay with a diet that is primarily all liquid. But good for you! You seem to be very determined. I have never tried any of Rodney Yee’s programs before, but I am an avid follower of Baron Baptiste. Have you ever tried any of his yoga workouts before?
Well good luck with all of this. Just don’t push yourself too much. You’ll have to post new pictures of yourself at the end of the month.
The diet is simple and straight forward, and involves no thought or creativity whatsoever. So I think it will work.
I could not find any of Baptistes “Short Form” DVDs locally, but Yee’s cheap and short DVD programs are everywhere. Which DVD’s do you recommend? There is a beginners DVD/book package on his website that I may be interested in.
You are looking for a yoga workout about 30 minutes long? Well, I really like his journey into power series. His book by the same name is a must read- it is very empowering.
Oh wait, I was thinking of David Swensons website. I haven’t seriously considered baptiste - came off as being all about self-promotion.
You just gave me a lot more
Your December program is crazy and I can understand you determination. I have been in similar situations.
I imagine you walking around at the hospital and telling your coworkers about this program, warning them that you might freak out, while at the same time telling them pheromonically that you are superior, the next day that you are happy, funny and healthy, an other day that you are sooooo approachable… and you have so many coworkers, often in close physical proximity for more than 3 seconds, and that gives you so many more options of noticing reactions.
The picture I really see in my mind, I can’t describe. It keeps changing when I try to grab it. And probably that’s exactly what makes it weired.
Re: your December program. I am impressed by the research you have done and by your determination.
I know there would be no point tryinig to tell you that taking it slower might give you more LONG TERM results.
3 years ago, I have done a similar thing (less professionally planned, but psychologically very similar and physically very effective, also supported by grey market stuff and working out to the limit).
Because of my life situation, I felt a psychological need to do this and so, actually doing it relieved psychological pressure and made me proud of myself. Nothing wrong with that! Since we have the internet, doing research on these issues has totally changed and allows us to get information which would not have been accessible 10 years ygo. I took some health risks but did not suffer permanent damage (nothing I know of at least) and hey - I am a grown up man and only I decide what I do with my body. And so do you! If anybody would have told me: Take it slow, this will be better for your body and give you more long term results, I would have totally ingnored them. I had a psychological need to be fulfilled NOW and QUICKLY (even though I was not really aware of the full psychological mechanics at work, at that time).
After that need was fulfilled, I went back to my old shape within a year. Ended up with a girl who was not in perfect shape herself (good looking, just not working out and with a little bit of extra body fat) and suddenly enjoyed that she did love me even with a little bit of fat on myself.
And here is what I see behind your December plan: A strong psychological need. I absolutetly understand that your plan will fill this need QUICKLY and that it must be filled. Me advice (from my experience) is to do more work on the spiritual level, or more substancial, get a good life coach (like I did). I was able to recognize my needs and found ways to fill them long term without pushing my body through extreme phases which are not really healthy (if I go back to the old things when the phase is over). I am still on the way myself of cause…
In any case: Keep us up to date throughout December and take care of yourself!
Oh, and your are really brave trying A314 only. I want to do that too, but there is so much to play with! I am really looking forward to your report over those 4 weeks. The effect on myself is very obvious and I believe we can never tell if we get hits because of ONLY effects on ourself or because of a combination pheromone effects on self and others.
A314 really deserves a better test run, Pete… like replace day with week. If you get desparate for hits, you can always switch back to your normal want me, like me, dream me, do me mix.
Can’t wait for the movie … “An Uncool Goober Monk Gone Willllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld!”
I’m confused - please elaboarate on what you mean by “replace day with week” - you’re saying I should use 1 drop per WEEK on the first week?
I think you’re confusing me with Catlord. I occasionally use "Catloads" but that’s not “normal” for me.
Has not been greenlighted yet. Still in negotiations with M Night Shyamalan…
Hah! I can’t help but pity anyone who understands me or can relate to me!
Actually I’ve only told the ones I sit around and chat with. The RN’s, etc all over the hospital won’t have any clue why I’ll (probably) be so much more of a jerk.
I don’t think I give out mixed signals. Sure, it’s a possibility, but I don’t want people to burn out on me this month like they did during my A314+NPA binge. We’ll all soon find out if they also burn out on A314 in two weeks, as per the A314/NPA deal.
It’s more desperation than determination. The “diet” leaves nothing to chance, no variabilty, no choice, no options. And my cupboard is almost bare. I feel bad, but I’m going to throw out what milk, juice, cereal, etc I still have left, or else I’ll cheat. And it’s merely a part of a long term training and diet plan. I’ve got the next 18 months mapped out precisely.
Good advice. Thank you for sharing it. I have a higly qualified life coach in mind, who fortunately happens to own the Martial Arts School, plus I will be pursuing Yoga and Meditation in more depth, and I’m “shopping around” for a Unitarian Church or Meditation Center which has a schedule that matches my own. But first things first - my body, my temple, is in disrepair.
I’m not brave. How bad can an OD be? It’s not like it’s pure Androstenone, Testosterone, or NPA. I don’t know what’s in A314 or understand the mechanism of its effects but I know it’s nothing like those products (wait a minute – maybe it’s like NPA with less -None. Hmmmm…). I’m trying to wrap my mind around the effects, and the duration of this little experiment will probably actually be “until I run out.” I’m guessing that’s 3-6 weeks.
I just put it on my Amazon.com shopping list. I’ve seen it in Paperback at Borders for like $20ish, but it’s a $8 Hardcover “Bargain Book” right now at Amazon. Will probably spring for it this weekend, along with the $10 DVD and another cheap DVD I’ve been eyeballing for awhile. But do you recommend it over" 40 days to Personal Revolution"?
27 November - 1 December
27 November - 1 December
BUMP
“Oh. Mmmmmm…”
(GRIND)
“…SO sorry.”
An attractive female bumped and grinded against me a few minutes after I got to work on Monday. That’s how I started my week of testing A314. I poked her (tickled her) playfully in the side and walked off, conversing with a male.
Two days later I overheard a male talking about ten feet away: “Why’s he have to wear those wierd shoes? Why can’t he wear normal shoes (mumble-mumble-murmur)?”
Me: “Because I’m not a f-ing brainless sheep like you are, and I’m not f-ing deaf, either.” His buddy started laughing insanely, slapping his knee and pushing the whispering prick out of his chair - the guy just blinked at me, and I got up to get a glass of water. Nothing more happened or was said when I got back.
Today, Friday. while shopping for Christmas decorations at Ikea – Cute blonde Employee: “All you need now is someone to help you put up the tree and decorate it with you.”
Me, the Mac-daddy of Uncoolness: “D’ehhhrrrrr…ummm…”
At work - Beautiful, Sophisticated, Foreign, Older Female sat next to me, discussed merits of different airlines and the amenities of foreign companies vs american air travel, as well as my next planned trip. She spent some time wandering around, approaching the chair before finally sitting down next to me. She had other choices - lucky me.
Later in the evening, just before the young cutie came in to work her shift – I discussed how I might leave early because we had been bickering the night before, like we were married.
Secretary:“Hmmmmm… I bet you guys DO, don’t you?”
This obviously got under my skin, so she continued, “Oooh, it’s getting hot in here.” (Does a little dance - damn, she’s hot AND can work those hips…) “Love is - oh wait, how’s that song go?”
“Love is in the air…”
More bantering back and forth. I deny it vociferously.
Young cutie walks in while secretary was gone. Said hello, I waited 'til she settled in, then I said
“FYI - before you hear it from _____, You and I? We’re a couple.”
Her: “Yep. Been hearing that for a week. We’re an item.”
Secretary walks in, sits down…
Me: “Sugar!”
Her: “Baby!”
Me: “DEAR!”
Her: “Yes, Daaahhhhhling.”
Secretary shakes her head and blushes.
Me: “I want you so.”
her: “Rowwrrrr. Purrrr Purrrrr.”
(My thoughts: “Wait a minute. I LIKE this. Hmmmm…”)
Later on … conversation turned to a debate on Quilted Northern vs Charmin. Scott tissue was “banned from even being in the conversation” by the secretary. The cutie and I ganged up on her, playing up our supposed love affair, and made her blush again.
According to what I’ve read, this behavior was NOT what’s expected when one wears A314 but make of it what you will. Me? I’m chalking it up to good natured fun, an immature male coworker, a lonely Ikea employee, my usual bumbling response when a woman is apparently interested, and a bunch of
fun female coworkers messing with my head. I can’t find a place for A314 in this equation.
I wore one drop all week.
Moving up to TWO, next week.
Pete,
I have read your interesting older thread Help/Advice A314/IS.
You start out somewhat disappointed because you did not notice any effects or reaction from the pheromones. During the course of the thread you start noticing effects, and continue to do so in this thread.
This is very interesting - because other people reading this forum, even the many readers who never post anything, might be in a similar situation.
Looking back to August of this year, what would you say are the main reasons why your experience with pheromones changed?
Did you just need more time - and why? Develop more social awareness?
How much do you think your reduction of stimulants (stack…) has been related to your successes with pheromones?
I am using too much caffeine and sometimes ECA myself and I am wondering if I could seriously improve my results by stopping it?
TexasPete, it sounds like you garnered some “social invitations” – I don’t want to be more definite than that, because I don’t know you and I wasn’t there. But I’d speculate that your pheromone experience is based on “you just being you” (with a drop of A314) versus making an effort to leverage A314 and use it as a tool.
I’m wondering if the nature of your experiment is what’s producing the apparently ‘random’ results. I can see you, in an active phero cloud, behaving in such a way that your work associates “get the signal” from the pheromones, but then “stall” because you don’t express a congruent “intent” (in voice tone and rhythm, in body dynamics and posture …)
My own leaning would be to interpret “odd” or “random” social invitations as expressions of curiosity – people saying, in essence “what’s going on with you”?
BTW – the IKEA salesperson: I would have said that was a definite IOI; but maybe you need a wingman to give you some objective feedback.
I think that certain pheromones work for me in particular, on certain people, in certain situations, but that I don’t tolerate the effects of certain -mones very well.
You’ll notice in that thread that I ramp up the doses over time and my blogging is long term. It took time to notice, for instance, that my A314+NPA stack worked extremely well and then backfired on me. If I had only done it for one week, I would never have known that the combination eventually backfires.
I think that my success has been more ratio dependent than anything else. If I remember correctly the only effects which I saw change when I came off the ECA stack was that IS and IH suddenly effected ME more (and I did not like that). You might want to go back to the thread and see if you notice any other trend over time.
I imagine that if IS and IH have clearly positive effects on your personailty then it might do you some good. If you need to be more talkative and don’t need to control yourself, then they might be for you. For me, IH and IS were not enjoyable or useful. I don’t know why this is true, because I do not mind the effects of the ANOL and BNOL sprays quite as much as the effects of IH and IS. Since I don’t know the exact ingredients in IH and IS vs ANOL and BNOL, AND I haven’t tried combining IH or IS with Ammo and IFM, I have no acceptable way of discriminating between the effects of these formulas. This inability to discern exactly what is working is the reason I’ve declined to pursue the use of any of the new MX mix freebie packs.
I don’t want to be any more definite than that either, because I fell that it will skew my judgement towards believing the A314 is working when my results may have absolutely nothing to do with wearing it. This week was the perfect example. Everything that happened could be “explained away” as being perfectly normal.
I think so, too. If I were to “use A314 as a tool” then there would not be any way for me to judge if its working or not, because I would be operating on the assumption that it works and saying that it was responsible for everything that happened to me. That’s why I look for dramatic and unusual effects like IOI’s and changes in behavior patterns. Anything else that I observe should be safe to write off as “normal behavior” that can’t definitely be attributed to the use of pheromones. To be honest, there are at least two problems with this approach, though.
#1: My personality and attractiveness is still an unknown variable because I established myself in this environment for several months with the aid of pheromones before I ever thought to see what it was like to go without, and because my reputation/status is already established at this point. Any further experiments will be effected by this. (ie Nurses, etc already know me and have established opinions/behavior towards me, “the flirt who isn’t available yet” and “…who might be hot when he loses weight” as I’ve heard that they call me.)
#2: I’m part of the equation. It’s difficult to be an objective and effective participant-observer… especially when I have to literally elbow and squeeze my way through a crowd of 20-30 INCREDIBLE women to work in the ER sometimes.
I suppose that’s all possible but to begin with, I don’t see any randomness - at least not over the one week I’ve been using straight A314. Peoples moods and situations change over time. What appears to be random over the course of one week of sporadic interaction with a wide variety of people may tRend to be normal over time. I’m ramping up the doses to see if I can quickly notice trends in amplified behavior over just 4 weeks. And I should explain that my weeks vary in length while the “weeks” that my coworkers spend interacting with me on overlapping workdays are not 5 or 7 day weeks and our shifts may overlap anywhere from 2 to 16 hours. It’s impossible for me to keep track of who has been exposed to what pheromones for how long and how often, and I think this is relevant. But I would need fricking tracking collars and a spreadsheet to do that.
I see no stalling and have no intent other than observation of any unusual and striking behavior.
That’s possible but doesn’t help me. I’m trying to be as passive and unreactive to IOI’s as possible.
Yeah, that was an unexpected IOI which I was unprepared for and which I think I could have capitalized on (I was definitely interested.) I’ve never seen or at least noticed her before ( I visit Ikea often) so I couldn’t tell if it was linked to pheromone use or not. And to reiterate for new forum members or new readers, I look for IOI’s to record here but I’m not acting on them. Long story.
I forgot to mention that I don’t think social awareness has anything to do with it, but that could be my ego talking. I think it simply takes time to spot trends.
Only if the ECA stack effects your own personality. I know for a fact that I’m effected by my diet, etc…
I ALSO forgot to mention that in one of my “roundtable discussions” with my female coworkers, it was mentioned that “Yeah, you can tell that Pete is on a diet. He’s sometimes grumpy and short.”
I think that being on the low calorie, low carb diet with testosterone boosters has really effected my own personality this week, especially when I’m hungry. Also I’m frequently very quiet, because I’m trying hard not to say all of the raunchy things that cross my mind. I’ve been biting my tongue so hard and so often this week, that i may end up with a speech impediment by monday…
On one occasion this week I had to exert great self control not to yell at a resident for stupidity, when it normally would not have ocurred to me. The internal monologue in my head was something along the lines of "Dammit, he’s a fricking idiot. Piece of shiite! I’m going to kick his ass - he has no clue what I could do with that scalpel…wait, is this my testosterone speaking? Or the diet? Dumbass MotherF-----er! " etc.
I imagine I was telegraphing my thoughts, because one of the nurses was getting VERY nervous and wide eyed. When I took a deep breath to calm down, she shook her head quickly as if to say “No, No, don’t say it.”
I am reposting this quote here for my own reference - I’ve been meaning to revisit my use of A314 for quite awhile. I should go back and re-read my older posts more often.
Now I think that it will take more than just one month to test out A314 and after re-reading my old posts I think it would be a waste of time to go over 3 drops at all. So I’m going to continue to use 1 drop for the next week. And it’s funny to see in writing exactly how badly I misjudged people when I first met them.
A314 - the man or the mones?
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Yes - there is always a problem of inference unless one has a sense for what is normal for that context (and then, as you say, in contexts one knows very well it will often be the case that it’s the same people there and they get used to you). But I guess the cumulation of relatively frequent slightly surprising events and not uncommon very surprising ones ought over time to be persuasive.
For instance I had dinner at a pretty decent restaurant near the Casino in Monte Carlo. I wasn’t in the best of shape - hung over, a bit bedraggled and my clothes were a bit crumpled and not 100% attuned to the venue. After dinner the Maitre D came over and shook my hand and said ‘Thank you so much for coming to our restaurant Sir’. To me, that’s really pretty surprising - the social comparison group in Monaco is stiff! Generally plenty of people very much richer than me and/or well-known socially. No way would that have happened pre-A314, and that’s just one of many incidents - not all of which stick in my mind.
One other thing you might experiment a bit with is changing the way you dress - wear your smartest outfit, project your most confident body language and act like you are used to being in charge. Do this with and without A314 - my sense is that congruency seems to have a multiplicative effect (otherwise people can get a bit confused). It’s also interesting to do the same with and without experiment whilst dressing your scruffiest, slouching and hesitating. I think BTW that Harris is spot on by likening it to a James Bond effect - I have heard that specific comparison lots of times when dressed up with A314.