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Alright, hello guys (and girls :wink: !

This shall be my introductory post. I pondered rather long whether to post something, but then I thought that you could probably help. I’m 25 years old, always been very athletic, I think I look pretty good and I’m definitely more muscular than most people. Even at the brink of being a bit intimidating I guess, especially when I weighted more. I come from one of the colder nordic countries.

So, I’d either want:

  1. help turning my gf into a beast in bed (and more initiating and willing)
    or
  2. help me in getting laid with other girls to prevent me from losing my mind and having to end this relationship due to her lower sex drive

As for choice nr. 2, I don’t have problems being bold or direct, initiating kino or going for a kiss etc, but I’m not good at talking with strangers (can’t really think of anything to talk about). To my pleasure I do sometimes get (prolonged) eye-contact from pretty girls. Is there something that could let us skip the conversation part and go more directly for the action (provided my looks and body suffice) or at least make them initiate the conversations and/or make it go more smoothly?

Also, just getting more eye-contact from girls would definitely be a huge boost to my mood.

I’ve tried finding my speet spot for Wolf for some time, but for me it seems to be more like “Lone Wolf”. I feel that no one initiates conversation with me when I’m wearing it, and if I initiate it, I have to do all the talking - which I’m not very good at - and I don’t really get the other person engaged. It’s almost as if people avoid me.

True Love might’ve helped me with some conversations, but nothing outstanding. I got a True Alpha bodyspray with my order, and that’s the one I like the most. It smells bloody awesome, I’m almost addicted to it. It makes me feel really good, strong and confident. But no real hits with that either. And it’s hard to find a sweet spot with the spray (haven’t found it with Wolf or TL either) so I’ve mostly just applied TA for self-effects.

I’ve tried Wolf 1-3 drops, usually behind or in front of my ears. TL 1-3 sprays, neck, throat, wrists and hair, and TA usually just around my neck. Even tried a few seconds of TA around my neck and 1 spray TL in my hair, but didn’t notice any hits.

(Oh yeah, and I’ve got a shipment of A314 with TUTH coming.)

What thoughts does this arouse?

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hey Jonas,

I don’t know the products you’ve mentioned, so hard to tell what kind of results should be expected. If the “True Alpha” is any similar to A314 (I remember coming across a definite A314 knock-off somewhere on the web, might be this), it’s sort of understood that you don’t get “hits” like more conversations initiated by strangers. Especially if you wear higher doses. You said your appearance may be intimidating already; that type of pheromone product can make you even more so.

I’m not sure if I understand this correctly. You want to have sex with other girls, so you don’t have to end the current relationship? Now I don’t have a problem with you having sex with multiple people, but that’s not the way to make a relationship healthier. It has to be honest to work, that’s what I believe. So yeah, let’s concentrate on the first of your goals :wink:

There sure are pheromone products to help you with that. You ordered TUTH, good, that’s reported to work well in the bedroom. Remember though, pheromones don’t make other people do stuff. They send an information about the person that’s wearing them. Other can either find that subconscious info about you attractive or repelling. If/when your girlfriend is totally not into it, wearing a sexual pheromone like TUTH doesn’t necessarily have to make it different. If she’s not against it though, just lacks some sort of internal kick in her loins, yeah, it should help :slight_smile:

For social situations, you might want to add something with a lighter note than A314 and TUTH. I admit that most of the time I use A314 on its own, but it works with my personality, or complements it rather. I look much younger than I am, smile a lot, can be too talkative and I’m not a big guy. So I don’t find that I need anything like Instant Openness (I have tried it and liked it though). That’s something that could complement you, as you mentioned to have a difficulty with the initial conversation. On the other hand, you said things like kino, going for a kiss etc are not difficult for you. They have been difficult for me for most of my life, although it’s getting much better now (with a lot of practice). I found Ammo and MX297 very helpful with it. Oh, P83 as well.

Anyways, my personal suggestions would be: add Ammo and Instant Shine to your arsenal, maybe Instant Openness as well (although the price has gone up a lot lately). Keep TUTH for bedroom situations with your girlfriend or late night clubbing. Don’t go too heavy on A314, sometimes just one drop is all that’s needed.

And keep us updated :slight_smile:

Welcome to PheromoneTalk :slight_smile:

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I’ll say now that True is one of the companies that are unwelcome here - for very good reason. Discussion of their products is liable to be deleted.

I don’t know Wolf at all but I think I have seen some discussion on it here before, so a search might be useful.

As for conversation, yes the more in your face status products like A314 can be daunting, especially to younger women. I would tend to soften it with IH/IS, which does help loosen tounges in a steered, happy way without disrupting the A314 status.

However, at your age you may want to consider IG, which still has plenty status but with a lighter suave/smooth feel that goes down much better around younger people.

Another good one for social/sexy interaction is Ammo and particularly Ammo and IS - these work together superbly and you can add IO to this for a mix that really promotes conversation and attractive feelings in all sorts of ways. Especially in younger - teens to mid 20s women. :slight_smile:

A314/TUTH is a good mix in more secually charged situations - Clubs/parties and the like, whilst A314 on its own is a superb mix for status and respect at work. TUTH on its own can be a bit much in a work/general social context but it is very good to use with an existing partner - which is exactly what it was designed for. :slight_smile:

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Hello Jonas and welcome to the forum.

You have gotten a lot of good information from both of the guys so far.

First - women usually need to feel connected emotionally to guys beforethey are willing to connect physically. Unless they are looking for a quickie or think the emotinal connection will come with time. Seeing as how youare already in a relationship with this girl neither situation applies to you. So in order to achieve that emotinal connection there is no way around the need for communication. Read the thread in my signature block that talks about married guys. You are not married I know but a relationship is a relationship for this purpose. Focus on IH. TUTH is OK especially if things are already heading in that direction but if they are not it is more like trying to brute force the issue.

If you are already in good enough shape to almost be physically intimidating (I am there too) then you might want to tone down your phero signature. The advice you got about using IG for this purpose is dead on. I use it that way also.

If you have trouble getting conversations going with strangers try a mix of IO & IH. The IO will help with the chatty side of things and the IH will draw them in deeper.

Good luck!

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Hi guys and thanks for all your answers!

I’m positively surprised to have gotten three replies already!

Marihino, you’re pretty much on spot. I thought about adding a “disclaimer” or further explanation in my post, but I though it would’ve made it too long. Anyway, I like this girl I’ve been dating (for a few years already) very much, but our sex life is pretty much dead. I’m sick of feeling like a horny puppy bothering her, she never initiates things, and if/when I do and she “goes along”, it’s pretty much me doing everything. You are probably right that me jumping around with other girls won’t make the relationship any better, so I’m running into a tough choice here. She’s not against having sex at all, and when we do she does enjoy it, it’s just not very enjoyable for me (anymore).

mobocaster, I didn’t know about True being unwelcome. Could you elaborate on that; what’s up (with them)? I’ll have to go easy on the A314 then, I don’t want to intimidate (younger) women any more than I possibly already do. Teens to mid-20’s sound awesome..makes me think about getting Ammo&IS&IO.

bosshank, thanks for you input. I should definitely work on my social skills. Thanks for the links too, I’ll look into them. I’m just 175cm/5ft8" so I’m probably not too scary though muscular (~80kg/176 pounds, abs visible), but IG sounds like a good plan, especially since mobocaster also recommended it.

I’m a bit on a budget here, what would be the one or two (next) product(s) to add to my arsenal, making me more approachable and successful in my interactions? Ammo, IG, IH, IO and IS all sound good, so I guess I’ll have to prioritize:

My #1 priority, for my next purchase, shall be to help me work on my oratory skills and learn to better talk with people. I want girls to make eye contact with me, and strangers coming to talk with me and making the talking easy (for both of us). Would that mean IO&IH, or IG instead of one, or what do you think?

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Hm…to gain confidence in speaking to others or having others be comfortable speaking to you.

Instant Shine would make people drawn to your happy/bright aura.
Instant Openness would make others comfortable in approaching you/talking.
Instant Honesty will help with making others feel that they can trust you.
For self effects IO and IS should make you very open and happy.

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Thanks for your tips!

I’m not sure if anyone’s following this thread anymore, since I already chose a “best answer”, but anyway:

I found this other thread, where Gegogi wrote:
“PP has plenty 'o androstenone , and the before mentioned is well known to to difficult for younger men to wear. Their high natural androstenone production combines with PP for an OD . Save it for when you’re outta college. Plus, most teenage women are easily frightened and/or befuddled by androstenone . I’d recommed more social pheromones like Scent of Eros, CTTM , Instant Honesty , etc. Steer clear of even remotely badass buffered sh!t like A314 Ammo , EG or PP. Don’t even think of touching Alpha 7, Edge, Primal or Turn Up The Heat or you’ll send those chickies running..”

I haven’t really had any visible effects wearing A314 (just three days, 2 drops), maybe this could explain it? After all, I’m young and probably at pretty much the peak of my own production(?), could it bee too much androstenone already? I’ll keep trying.

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Welcome to pherotalk Jonas!

The introductory thread is just to get you started and when you are guided to the right start up products and issue your gc the rest of your comments, questions are directed in the men section.

You will get more answers and responses there.

Your gc was issued!