Bad reactions with p74 p75 combo

Has anyone else experienced this?

I wore my usual 2.5 mcg p75 which always works for me but when combined with p74 at 20 mcg the result was disasterous. Complete lucid and stoned self effects. I couldn’t focus properly for the life of me.

I noticed NO results from others.

I find p74 works best by itself or maybe with mixes I haven’t tried, and at smaller amounts like 10 mcg for me. Even then I call it the coffee shop mix because its more for that environment.

I read a lot about p74/a314. Anyone care to comment why they think this maybe a good or bad mix? Would you combine it with IS? I can’t stand IH… Any other takes?

How strange, I get the complete opposite self effects from this mix, really focused and rock solid social confidence, maybe you could try lowering the p74 and upping the p75.

Tried p74 by itself at 10 mcg (1 spray) and results were terrible. I was more social but I was also becoming dumb seriously! It must of lowered my ability to think because I was totally out of it with this product.. For example at one time my SO asked me what time it is, and I answered my car is black. yes I heard her. She told me from her perspective p74 makes my mind all fuzzed up.

I don’t like it one bit… i refuse to test it anymore… It seems these pututives have been nothing but bad luck for me, p79, p102, p83, and now p74… p75 is the only one that gave me decent results and thats in very low doses. For some reasons putatives cause me to introspect and because i have acute bipolar I probably sense a lot of negative emotions and thoughts..

I like extroverted mixes that are more alpha… IS AMMO always worked for me.. Summer ammo p75 worked for me.. A314 is great stuff and makes me smarter than when I don’t have it on – it actually increases focus and intelligence.

For the most part except for p75 which I think should become a consumer line product its so consistent, I’m sticking to the main product line.

IS, AMMO, summer ammo, p75, and a314 are the best for me.. IG is good to… IH is introspective which causes problems for me. IO I’ve never tried as its too expensive.

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It seems to me that your bipolar is a major factor in a lot of pheromones giving you negative self effects. I have a close friend who has the same condition and she also reacts poorly to most pheromones.

Do you really believe that a314 makes you more intelligent? are you sure it’s not just that it allows you to focus more and think more clearly?

Hey do you have any empty to-go bottles ?

My suggestion is to spray a few spray of the putatives your having trouble with in the bottle and dilute it down real low like to 1 or 2 mcgs per spray.

Give them another try like that and see how you feel.

Most putative users including myself wear way way more then is actually needed or what you would find in a standard mix for attraction and steering.

Its possible with your bipolar-ism makes you feel things more acutely and lowering the dosage and using it with those mixes that do make you feel good may work well for you. Its worth a try.

Tisha

It really depends how you define intelligence.. With A314 on I see openings on the road etc that even my SO doesn’t see and she’s not driving.. She says “sometimes you really amaze me”. Its because with all these other mones products my mind is busy socializing I don’t take the moments to think, but with A314 you think most of the time, and at the right times you can relax and unwind and be a bond type of guy.

With a314 on I play guitar better, makes fewer mistakes, and am always complimented on my performances. It awakens me from my slumber as I’m usually drowsy with all the drugs I take.. A314 wakes me up. Its some magic juice… too bad its just a business mone and standoffish to a lot of people.

If intelligence is just what you know and not how well you summon your abilities to put that knowledge into action then I wouldn’t say a314 makes you more intelligent. But it does help you summon your intelligence.

Lately I have had both good and bad feelings with P 74 and I was going to post a separate thread but then I saw yours.

to get good effects on others I need to use a lot like it least 40 or 50 mcg it seems.

But then I believe that I do not think as clearly and I really do not like this effect so I have thought about discontinuing use of P 74 at work.

It maybe that I am just more sensitive to products effects than others and that would include self effects and effects on other as a holistic picture.

I’ve had nothing but bad luck with p74 even as low as 10 mcg. tried in combos and alone. Fuzzes up my mind.

It doesn’t surprise me you have this reaction if your prone to self effects and side effects.

It’s almost as if I need to decide during a day or certain part of the day whether I want to have Good self effects or limited self effects or if I want to have good or instigated or accelerated external effects and interactions. I don’t seem to be able to easily have both as may be reported by the majority of users on this forum.

If I want good or limited self effects I would avoid P 74. But if I want more the social interaction then P 74 at a dose of 40 or for me 50 mcg seems to help a lot.

I do not seem to be able to have both the good self effects and the good external effects so I have to choose during each day or large part of the day.

I notice the same thing.. When I wore p74 p75 I noticed my p75 self effects were history. Since most of the results I had gotten out of p75 when I wore it alone,were from self effects, as opposed to how it effected others, I found it pointless to wear the combo. :open_mouth:

p74 has this really great way of fuzzing up my thoughts, almost making me completely dumb, losing complete focus, slowing my thinking, and turning me into a vegeteble. I don’t like it one bit. It’s a very bad putative for me.

Yes I do notice it makes for some easier talk but with all the bad side effects I reported I end up sounding stupid and slow when I speak.

It is my understanding that p75 on its own at 2.5 mcg does wonders for my mind.

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I use 10 p75 when using it.

I want morr p130! That helps with my depression and anxiety, and I dont think any other prduct would help in this way. Indeed they usually make things worse. Im having to rethink my whole strategy lately

For depression and anxiety (if its mild like what I have) go with Summer ammo and p75. Some mixes relax you and you’ll come across more alert and in the moment.. this one does it for me.

IS / AMMO was also a favorite combo of mine but I found it didn’t help reduce my anxiety.

Summer ammo is more balanced with socials.

What this means is you’ll be able to socialize better and other women will too.. this USUALLY will attract the women who are not looking for ONS. Sex will take longer but you’ll get there. Most classy women want a guy who demonstrate social skills first anyways.:roll_eyes: