Hello everyone, I’ve got some reports to add here, but I have no time and am going to bed. Will try to report tomorrow. Anyway, I was wondering if pheroproof could still be found anywhere? I went to the site and emailed the people, as it said to do, but haven’t gotten any response yet. Anyone have any advice or wanna trade me theirs’ for something?
Some of us are hoarding PP for special occasions. You can’t have mine!
However I have noticed Ammo with a dash of NPA and TAA produces similar reactions to PP. Also, AE is in the same ball park if you dig the scent (I don’t).
oh well…thank you for the info, i will give it a try, although i personally don’t really love the scent of alter ego either…i’ll let ya know what happens…
how much is it?
yes gegogi is correct re: Alter Ego being a powerful product. i had very very obvious hits when mixed with Instant Honesty and IShine.
wouldnt Ammo and NPA be applying too much -none? isnt this the same as adding say, TUTH and Ammo together? or is the magic of the secret lacroy ingredient also in PP?
Ammo is pretty weak in terms of androstenone content–only 2.5mch per zap as I recall. That’s why it’s an excellent general purpose produce almost anyone can wear. PheroProof is triple that! Friggen 7.5mcg per squeeze! Alter Ego is not for young buff bucks with sweaty pits as it’s really androstenone heavy as well. Like I said, you can approximate the PP vibe by beefing up Ammo with Turn Up The Heat, NPA or other -none products. I do it all the time (only after work of course as I can’t have coeds falling all over me).
Incidentally AE is sold much cheaper outside LS. It’s a real steal if you dig the sweet funk of the cologne aspect. Makes me hurl. I wish they had an unscented version as it’s great otherwise.
btw: how much none does one dab of NPA have? seems noone to know it exactly
Dab is a very inconsistent dosing method. Drops and Sprays provide much more consistent dosing.
NPA has 0.48 mg/ml of total pheromones out of which 0.24 mg/ml is -none.
For alcohol based products I normally consider 56 drops in a ml, which means 1 drop contains approximately 0.018 ml of alcohol. Note that this can vary anywhere from 0.015 to 0.025 ml depending on the dropper mouth size and other factors.
Based on above assumptions, one can calculate that 1 drop of NPA contains anywhere from 4 to 6 mcg of -none depending on your dropper. A safe bet is 5 mcg per drop.
A dab is probably equivalent to 2-3 drops (depending on your finger pressure over the hole), giving you roughly 10-15 mcg of -none, or as an average 12.5 mcg of -none per dab.
2.5 mcg of error in -none might be the difference between great reactions and OD. Therefore one needs to be careful when dabbing these high concentration -none products.
THX for the calculation!
wow that is surprising because a lot of ppl advised 2 dabs of NPA, but would now mean a sure OD? (at least 20 mcg then)
what is the general max. mcg -none for mature women around 40? (wearer over 40 too)
20 mcg might be okay to wear during a target woman’s ovulation period. It’s risky at other times but might still be okay for a woman in her 40s.
Sheesh nbully, those calculations were pretty darn tootin’!
I have a tight finger so my dab is probably closer to a drop. My standard walkaround dose is 2 dabs. For happy hour or a hot date I often wear several more to good effect (buffered with TAA, Androstenol and a smile of course).
hey man, can i ask what the ratios you are talking about here are for these combos? thanks!
its very interesting comparing androstenone strengths in products. i can get the same type of OD reaction whether its with the 2.5mcg Ammo at 1 spray, or the 12.5mcg dab of NPA. The bad reaction isnt any more extreme either way. weird really as technically it should be alot worse with AE or NPA.
another point, i think the brilliance of NPA is even though its very concentrated, i dont feel like im wearing that amount of none, ie. i dont feel overly agressive as id expect to from 12.5mcg of -none,…i think its the secret ingredient that allows for good buffering.
so higher strength -nones that have good buffering, or our oil based like A7, don’t seem to be any more scary than if u OD off the modest and humble Ammo - a -none OD appears to be a -none OD. if youve reached your threshold, it can even happen with a spray of Ammo. PBS also appears to be a high none product but with good buffers.
PBS? duuh those acronyms kill me
Public Broadcasting System??
I know what is “PBS” & even the product that stand by that initial but sorry i’m still too injured to talk about it right now 
Maybe mahalo sliver can explain more. Bye!
someone care to explain to me???