Sorry to hear about your loss Catlord. Hope everything is well.
Glad to see you’re back
Thanks for the help catlord. we really appreciate your experience, and hope you will find time, amongst your busy schedule, to visit us at the forum, once in a while.
It will be interesting to know the outcome of the I.F.M x 4 on the lady you post about.
But before I go, this is important, please… I need an education on how to start using your extraordinary calculator… Your calculator is awesome…
From the previous posts, I have read, they always deliver. That is why I am curious to know the outcome with your lady target, the caculator said you will nail with 4 sprays of I. F. M.
So I will really appreciate it, if you help me out on this. I know there is more to it than reading tons of Asrology books. On P75 , you said I should try 2.5mcg, but you forgot to mention how many sprays, I should use 1, 2, 3 sprays. Hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks.
I ask a direct question, and all you get from it is that? lol
For me… 1 spray of TUTH is as sexual as 4 sprays of IJ - but in different circumstances and with different types of women. 1 spray of TUTH is best for 18-25 year old white women, and 4 sprays of IJ is best for any Hispanic female you ever meet. I deal with almost entirely these two groups. White women my own age respond to more TUTH, but I don’t have them around much, unfortunately.
Keep in mind, these are the calculated results for my personality and physiology. Your milage may vary.
Thank you for the condolences. I’ve never been quite sure how to respond to them.
I’m back as much as I can be… but I’m busy as fsck.
I try.
I don’t know what to tell you, my friend. The calculator is not available for general use. I can’t show you how it works, or how to use it for yourself, no matter how much I might like to. There will come a time when it is available to more people than just me, but that time is not now.
The calculator doesn’t always deliver. It appears to be accurate nearly 100% of the time as long as the conditions in which it is used are balanced properly. However, even then, it is possible to have the calculator be accurate, and I mess up somehow in executing the conditions required to accomplish what was calculated - a spray misfires, I get a drop too many, I don’t act soon enough, etc.It’s very sensitive to the butterfly effect, apparently.
The calculator has not a thing to do with astrology. You could read every astrology book on earth and you wouldn’t know a thing about the calculator.
I am presuming you are using a bottle of P75 with a strength of 2.5 mcg/spray, which would put you at 1 spray.
Ok so no one can see the database. I understand that. And we can’t use the calculator for obvious reasons. Really don’t need a lot of people knowing how to exactly calculate a seduction. So can you tell us about the parameters used?
You have to understand that I’m asking these questions because I’m starting to understand that pheromones communicate with the old brain and therefore bypass conscious thought. So things get in unfiltered. Basically a pheromone is a subliminal message that the mind takes as truth. Understanding the message sent is an integral part of the communication. However based on what I have read someone understands the other side of the equation. At that is how loud the message should be, the frequency of the message, and of course the content of the message based on the target.
What information is needed about the target for the calculator to work?
This is something I am not at liberty to discuss. But I will tell you this… it’s not what you’d expect. And based on what I am doing with this calculator, we are on the verge of some truly amazing breakthroughs in science in the next 50 years…
I’ve studied IFM to know that it works and works well. I have worn it, or my own version of it since I am now out, with great success all by its lonesome. It absolutely can work on some women to create a very sexual vibe. I usually find it to work the best in those most unresponsive to heavy none type products: IJ
I really don’t want to encourage others here, but I will send you my personal version of IFM via PM. You’ve shared with me so I would ask you the same agreement stands. Please keep this private. I’ll drop it in PM
Privacy assured. 
Thanks for the heads up. The mix you sent me is almost exactly what I was expecting to hear it was. Gotta go get some A1…
Okay, this post is a report, and it’s late, but here goes. Couple weeks ago, maybe hell, a month by now… I did a photoshoot with a fashion model across the state from where I live. She was mine to shoot for about 45 minutes, and before that I spent a couple hours assisting another photographer who was shooting her also.
Naturally, I wanted to most productive day possible, as hiring professional models with that kind of looks and experience is not cheap. Think $80 per hour and up. Anyway, I pulled up the calculator and ran some numbers through it, and it indicated that I had two major options for having a good shoot with her. The first one was 5 mcg of P75, and the second was 7.5 mcg of P75. (Which is currently out of stock, and you all should demand more, cause it positively kicks ass. I happen to have a nice supply atm.)
Anyway, the results indicated that the other photographer would severely abreact to me if I wore 7.5 mcg, but the model would go nuts for me. The second best option, where the model responded with strong affinity but didn’t quite “go nuts” also did not have the abreaction from the other photographer. So I went with the second best option.
Now keep in mind, I am a professional photographer, and I have hired this international model with almost a decade of modeling experience. She knows the drill better than I do, when it comes to working with professional models. So it was interesting to note her demeanor during the three hours we were shooting her, and her response to myself and the other photographer.
The other photographer is older than me, and in quite a bit less good health, which is why I was assisting for him as extensively as I was. But he was also attempting to interest her, which I found rather amusing. He was subtle, but I could see it, since I know the man well. He was trying to impress her and attract her attention and interest beyond just photography, as much as he could with her fiance present.
I, on the other hand, was basically doing the grunt work for the first three hours - figuring out where we would meet the model, where the designated shoot location was, scouting the location for light and backgrounds, carrying equipment, holding reflectors, etc. I was not in the slightest trying to attract her attention, I was just trying to do my best to help my photographic friend get the best shots he could.
When my turn came, the light was rapidly fading, and it was a serious struggle to keep up with a model who was moving faster than I am used to shooting, plus dealing with constantly fading light, plus directing my friend (who was holding the reflector for me at that point). Balancing the foreground and background lighting was very difficult when the light was fading so rapidly, especially once I was forced to start using a strobe. I was maxed out for concentration and focus, to the point that I almost didn’t speak at all during the shoot - usually I will keep a constant dialogue going, telling her how to fine tune her pose or placement, how good she looks, how well she is doing, etc. Not this time. It was on at 110%, and she was pushing me to my limits. I liked that, but I had no interest or intent of attracting her attention in any way other than as a professional dealing with another professional.
Now a pro model never acts out of that role while she is working, and a pro photographer follows the same rule. This basically means the two never touch - you’d think I could get with a lot of super hot women as a photographer, but that’s not true: I am morally obligated to maintain the decorum befitting a professional at all times while dealing with my models.
So you can imagine my shock when, at the end of the shoot, while she was signing my model release, my fellow photographer was attempting to regale her with stories that he apparently expected would win her affection (again), and she signed it, handed it it to me, smiled politely at him, and then gave me a full on hug.
I almost didn’t know how to respond! Hug?! From a model I have never met before, never worked with before, and only spoken to for about five minutes and worked with for about 45 minutes?
This particular model is not typical, to be sure; that’s what makes her such a pleasure to work with. She’s the only “10” I have ever laid eyes on in person in my entire life, but she’s down to earth and has no arrogance, diva-ish-ness, attitude, superiority complex, etc. as is so common for that level of looks in a model. My friend, she politely declined with a smile, but me, she gave a hug to.
Now that may not sound like much but consider that a hug means she was both interested enough, and trusting enough, to break the rules. The model can do that and get away with it, but the photographer can’t; if the model initiates, it’s okay, but if the photographer initiates, it’s a potential career killer. She was telling me, with that hug, that she was not treating me as someone to be stiffly professional and distant with; I was someone she could relax around, share a more personal side of herself with, and touch. Remember, she’s a 10, and her finance is a 10 (and also a model). I am probably an 8 to 8.5 in most people’s books, so she can clearly do better for looks than me, and already had.
I can’t say how interested she might have been aside from that, or how aroused, etc. but even if it was purely a friendly gesture, I would have to attribute it at least half to the pheromones I was wearing with the intent of getting some great photographs. That has me mighty impressed. I’ll be shooting with them both next time, and I’ll be sure to use the calculator to optimize the results - and I suspect the response will be even more extreme next time! For the next (and probably the last for a long time) shoot I do with her, the calculator has indicated 3 sprays of TUTH or 5 mcg of P75 - in that order of preference - would be best. I just hope I or my photographer friend don’t ab-react, cause I’m going to wear 3 sprays of TUTH.
Honestly I have no doubt that 5mcgs of p75 where a woman is spending time showing herself off for you would at least get you a hug. P75 seems to break normal boundaries. Wait, that’s not true. The boundaries just don’t exist anymore.
So this calculator also factors in other parties besides the target? That’s very thorough. Interesting.
Catlord I have a new question for you. Have you found any physical features that may indicate a persons susceptibility to mones? For example natural hair color, eye color, notril width, length of arm hair, etc?
I could, if I were so inclined, factor in the responses of the primary subject and up to three other subjects simultaneously. However, it quickly becomes ridiculously complex to figure out (exponential variables to consider), so one or two is the usual limit.
As for correlations, I am always on the lookout for those.I have noted the following.
Hair length correlates strongly to the degree of femininity in a personality. The shorter her hair is, the more bold, direct, and/or aggressive the woman usually is. These are masculine traits, so shorter hair usually responds to masculine aggression pheromones in a more polar manner: they love you or hate you. Spiked (very short) is the most pronounced; short is like this about 50% of the time; medium is like this about 35% of the time; long is rarely agressive in a Yang manner, but is certainly capable of Yin type agression (bitchiness). Very long hair tends to correspond with divas and women who associate long hair with femininity, so they never cut it in an effort to be ever more feminine. Of course there are excepotions, and this is by no means set in stone. However, as a rule of thumb, the shorter her hair is, the more likely she will respond actively, aggressively and directly to androstenone/P75/P83 type mones. Longer hair will also respond, but will usually respond with more subtlety. Short and very short hairs are rarely subtle, although they may not choose to speak about their opinions unless asked.
Hair color does seem to have an effect but it is generally a minor one, unless it ties in with race. Black hair correlates with stronger androstenone appreciation in most cases; orientals are a notable exception in most cases. Brunette hair likes stronger than blonde, but not as much as black; platinum blonde and red hair seem to usually like androstenone in polar doses: a lot, or very little.
Brunettes seem to like androsterone better than most other hair colors, but this is superceded in accuracy by the personality: it’s daddy’s girls who are usually strong responders to androsterone. Momma’s girls tend to prefer androstenone. Androstenol attracts younger women.
Eye color I have not studied, nor noted any correlations to.
Body hair is a good indicator. Longer, darker arm hair on a woman indicates a stronger tendency to appreciate androstenone (TUTH/IJ) but I haven’t tested it with P75 yet. Leg hair also correlates, and so does the thickness and pore size of the skin on the legs. The more obvious the pores (larger) and the heavier the hair, the more androstenone she’ll produce and require. The amount of body hair, especially sexual hair, further correlates. More leg/pubic hair = more androstenone required. Coarser leg/pubic hair = more androstenone. Darker leg/pubic hair = more androstenone.
That’s all that comes to mind at the moment.
Good stuff. What you say makes sense. When I was dating my wife she got a short haircut at one point. She became very fiesty. For the life of me I can’t tell if it was the haircut that did it or the haircut was part of the result. I make her keep her hair long these days. She’s a brunette with hazel eyes.
From what I have witnessed, and I need to pay more attention, girls and guys with light colored eyes seem to be affected by mones more than girls or guys with darker eyes.
I decided to do a little experiment yesterday. No calculator, just winging it. I put on 1 spray of TUTH, and then 1 spray of IO, and then a spray of IS. Then I added one more spray of TUTH, and two sprays of cops dilution (1:180). Then I went out.
The first place I went was wally world, and I grabbed what I had to get and skedaddled so quickly that I noticed nothing. Then I went to a botanical garden to see if it was suitable for shooting models. I walked in, looked around, saw no indication that I had to pay, and simply continued through and into the garden. Quickly looked through the grounds. Disappointed by the sounds of traffic from two sides (they’re new, so no wall yet). Disappointed by how little planting they had done in the year they have been open. Came back through, and was greeted by two women, one in her late 60’s, and one in her early 40’s. They were directors. Told them point blank they needed a wall to block out the sounds, and more plants. They asked if I could help find financing for those things, so I decided to volunteer. When they took me over to talk to someone about volunteering, I realized I hadn’t paid to get in, and there was a $5 charge. LOL Apparently, I looked like I was supposed to be there, so nobody asked me if I was paid or not.
So I got myself an individual membership for $25 instead of paying the $5, and was quickly engrossed in a conversation with a woman from New York who must have been 50’s or 60’s in age. And boy was she into me. So impressed with me was she that she actually began gushing about me - in front of me - to other people who worked there. Including the director of horticulture. She introduced me as a “very important person, an artist, who has some wonderful ideas about how we can improve the garden”. The director was amused, because I certainly was not dressed to match the awe she was expressing. He gave me audience, discussed things with me for a few minutes, and left. Then she began gushing to someone else about me, this time a woman who had been standing next to her when I told her the things she was gushing about. I got a real kick out of that.
Shame she was so much older than me, and married. Had this been someone closer to my age and not married, I could have taken her home with me right then and there and probably gotten her pregnant too.
The hits with this woman were so blatant, so long lasting and so over the top that she was actually starting to irritate the other women present, who ranged from about 40 to about 80 - but she had no idea. She was really enjoying my company.
Not necessarily the age range I was aiming for, but certainly interesting nonetheless. I have noticed that 1-2 sprays of IO turns TUTH and IJ from aggressive and direct alpha to friendly alpha. You go from raw lust, respect and awe to respect, but more relaxed and playful responses. More buddy buddy.
Tomorrow is my shoot with the model I was talking about previously. Probably the last one for a few years. Three sprays of Turn Up The Heat; unfortunately, I’m going to be forced to work very closely with my photographer friend again, which is irritating me no end because it means I can’t shoot where I planned to, when I planned to, or how I planned to. Not his fault, but because of him taking the “magic hour” and wanting to shoot an hour away from where I wanted to shoot, I now have to shoot where he wants to shoot under almost the worst possible conditions: direct sun, during the middle of the day, without any shade, and a very boring background.
Very frustrating, but I’ll just have to take it as a challenge and kick some ass regardless. I have done it in worse conditions than these. Just wish I wasn’t spending $250 to shoot in 3rd rate conditions…
Just got back from a four hour photo shoot with two models, and briefly, a dog - rotweiler? Can’t remember how to spell it.
I trusted the calculator and wore 3 sprays of TUTH, and the shoot was just fantastic. Not only was I calm, cool and collected, so that almost every shot was a killer, but both models loved me, and the female model was so fascinated by me that had she not been engaged, I suspect she might have considered me as more than a friend. We all three got along famously, but it was obvious that she was much more interested than he was. It was so intense from her that it was hard for me to pay him equal eye-contact, which I try to do to keep people feeling included in what’s going on. I suspect I made a couple of lifelong friends today, if nothing else. Haven’t looked at the images yet, except on the camera LCD, but whew, I think we got some stunning shots. Everyone was just on point.
So surprised at how three sprays of TUTH made me act - not irritable at all, as I worried, but more calm, confident and in control, without being domineering or controlling. +1 for the calculator… again.
Hey CL.
I was testing some theories out from the members.
I ran into 2x IJ and 5mcg of P75 and it has that dark mysterious vibe to it whenever I used it. I know you’ve used IJ and P75 to a good extent and wondered if you’ve ever tried this combo out, or the calculator has given you that kind of mix.
Hope everything is well
Hello Mustang,
Please tell us your experience when you use 2x IJ and 5mcg P75. You forgot to explain further. Thanks
One report is in my journal, and others I’m reevaluating before I come out with posting something.
I feel blondes are VERY sensitive to mones, when I wear it.
Do you think the wearer also has much influence on the type of target?
any chance of a astrology/none interaction table? I’d be willing to participate and provide my experience…