I haven’t used them together in a while. Sounds like fun. I’ll have to play with that today. 
I think that there are a lot of factors involved. For instance, if I smell very sexy, but I am a total dick to a woman, she will respond in one of three ways:
A) She’ll try to fuck me and leave me to my dickish ways afterwards (ONS).
B) She’ll decide I’m godly and wonderful because I remind her of dad/bro/ex/etc. and she expects to be treated badly because that is what her self esteem and self respect level is looking for.
C)She’ll ignore the fact that I smell sexy and tell me to fuck off.
C is by far the most likely.
If I am suave, experienced and sexy personality wise, but I wear pheromones that say I am a 14 year old kid, she’ll likely turn and run because of the dissonance I am presenting.
I happen to be very good with people once I break the ice. My personality is such that it’s usually a positive response to me regardless, but I tend to be passive with pursuing most women because most women are involved already. When I am more active, my style is still much less aggressive and bold than, say, DJ Andarial’s. But, I have a certain je ne sais quoi, which I can make women find me irresistible with when I am “feeling it”, so direct and bold is not necessarily required.
In my experience, passive wearers like me tend to have less influence on the target than the pheromones do, if the target is properly exposed. Bold, aggressive guys tend to have more impact than the pheromones. And when you balance your actions and your mones - or, as I do, use a calculator to figure out the perfect match for the situation - you practically can’t go wrong.
Still a no go on the calc eh CL?
Or a one time consult with this hottie I’m trying to get?? EH EH?
I came today to report something interesting that I am observing.
Pheromones appear to be great for slow and steady seduction, or forming of perceptions about a person.
For example… one of my models has been the subject of an ongoing experiment. I am trying to see if she will respond by initiating sex with me even though I make absolutely no effort to express interest in sex with her. I am basically using the optimal sexual pheromones for each encounter, as calculated by the calculator, and I am noticing some interesting things.
First of all, she’s gone from an obvious “we’re just casual friends” attitude to she has definitely given me opportunities to make a move on her and seduce her multiple times in the last month, and she is becoming more and more interested in me overall. She’s done things which put me in a perfect position to just simply act on any sexual desires I might have had, and she would have had a good excuse or two when/if sex happened.
But I made no sexual moves, and she has started showing more and more interest, spending more time with me, being more physical and playful with me, telling me that she doesn’t mind if I do things that are strictly off limits between a photographer and a model, calling me more, introducing me to friends of hers and trying to find me more models…
She’s used to guys being direct, bold, and aggressive when it comes to displaying their interest. But I’m not doing that. I am, however, consistently arousing her to a noticeable degree sexually whenever I am around her. It has been interesting to watch her changing responses to me as my value increases with each encounter. She’s begun giving me high social value whenever she is out with me, or talking about me. She is not an unattractive girl by any means, herself.
So I think what’s going to happen is that eventually, I am going to have to “put up or shut up”. There will come a time, some time in the next 2 weeks, where either she or one of her friends will make an obvious offer of sex to me, and I’ll have to decide whether I want to deal with sexing a taken woman. This model of mine has been a good friend for much longer than she’s been a model, so I really consider her more a friend than a model. Plus, she’s not a professional, and our shoots tend to be more fun and playful than professional.
I’m not real big on homewrecker, so I doubt anything will come of all this… but it goes to show you that a woman can be enticed with pheromones to interest and desire for sex, if you wear the right pheromones - even if you remain passive.
Yeah, sure, I do it for you and then a line forms, right? And then what, I never sleep? lol
In hindsight, I should have just PMed you.
I did the experiment with 2 sprays of Instant Jerk and 5 mcg of P75. The calculator predicted that it would not result in sex, but would result in one particular woman becoming very sexually attracted because of it. I found myself strangely pulled to visit a particular park, which is not very close to me. Originally, I was planning to go deal with a certain cable company and have them fix something, but preparations proved too lengthy and I ran out of time. So, quizzically indulging this little urging that said I should go to this park a couple towns over, I began the drive regardless.
On the way I couldn’t figure out why I was going. At the same time, I kept having this urging to go… so I figured, alright, what the hell, it’ll get me out of the house for a little while and decompress me. At the same time, I am thinking, yeah, and use time and gas you don’t have to spare at this time. But I went, as when I work hard, I tend to get stuck in a rut, and that ends up depressing me.
So I got there just as sunset was about to start - perfect timing. Got out my camera, tripod and camera bag, all 25 pounds of it, and walked over to the river walk. This park has a little walkway that extends out into the river quite a ways, so you get a rather excellent view. Unfortunately, in the last several years, some developer got the brilliant idea that they would build a boat parking lot, and now the river in this area is so congested with boats that it’s hard to get a worthwhile shot.
However, on this day, the sun was in the right place and the boats were in the right place, and the sky was full of beautiful clouds and the sunset was simply stunning. It’s rare to see a sunset like that on the East coast of Florida, so I’ll definitely have to be back to this park in the future - but, I ended up getting a series of incredible images of the river, boats and sunset all in one, using my wide angle lens (and even 24 mm wasn’t wide enough for this scene), one of which will no doubt end up in my portfolio and farmed on my walls. After the fact, it felt like I had been directed here for this very experience… quite odd, but the time I spent there totaled about 15 minutes before I headed back, happy.
On the way back, I remembered that while I had been hanging the images I had showed in the art show, one of the frames slipped off my couch and the glass cracked, so I stopped into the store where I bought the frame and got myself another. It was around time time that the calculator had shown a woman becoming interested in me because of the phermones, and I lingered, looking for a specific type of mat cutter (which they did not have, naturally), but did not encounter any ladies closely enough that I could have caused them any sort of excitation at all. So I left that store, put my frame in the car, and wandered next door to the new wine store.
Now when you think of wine store, you usually think of a liquor store that carries wines, and it’s usually got 20 or 30 varieties at best of each classification of liquor. Not this one - this is a freakin warehouse. Literally. I’m told they have 3,000 varieties of liquor, 2,000 varieties of beer and 4,000 varieties of wine - and I believe that. It took me 2 hours to wander through and look at 80% of their wine selection. Amazing - and, this is where I met the woman who actually responses to my pheromones.
I was wandering through looking at various bottles, jut basically trying to take in the vast amount of new information about wines (as I am not a connoisseur, but I would like to be more educated on the subject), when I was approached by a middle aged woman who worked there. She asked if there was anything I needed, and I asked how they could possibly have a bottle of wine for $3.99 just yards away from a bottle that was almost $800. Why would a bottle of wine be worth $800?
She seemed delighted to have someone ask that, and launched into a description of the wine growing areas of France, etc. and the difference in climate, soil, irrigation, vines, age of vines, and on and on. It makes me think that some people take wine way too seriously, if they’re willing to spend $799.99 on a bottle of wine, but hey - who am I to judge?
Anyway, I learned something new, and she apparently very much enjoyed sharing the information with me, and I thought I saw that twinkle in her eye that says a woman likes what she sees. Could have been her natural personality, but…
So I wandered off, and looked at the hard liquors for a bit, and then back to the wine section quite by accident, where I met another middle aged woman, who also was giving me that look as she spoke to me - at least I think she was. Could have been personality again. But I noticed that the first one seemed to be hovering close to me.
When the calculator shows a positive response, and nothing overt happens, I have learned through long experience that it indicates an arousal or interest by the female that is not obviated by her. This sometimes makes it hard to tell who is interested in specific. I’m pretty sure the first one was the subject, because she spent enough time with me to be really affected. But its interesting that both women were about the same age, and both had that same look of being very open to, and interested, in me. I’m pretty good at knowing when I see interest, but there’s something about these ladies that made it more difficult. Perhaps they are more mature and experienced than I am used to “reading”.
In any case, it occurred to me that this store would be a wonderful place to learn more about wines and spirits, which could only serve to enhance my “suave” when it comes to entertaining the ladies. So, this weekend, I’ll be going back when they have their wine tasting, loaded up with pheromones, and see about replenishing my supply of wines, and perhaps access a new and different type of women to consider for more than friends. Surely, this would be a place, by the impression I got, to meet quality people who had good taste. Certainly not the sort of woman who would be bad to meet, no?
So… no dramatic overt panty scorching this time, but certainly an interesting adventure which will lead to more.
Beginning to think that sublimated sexual attraction in a woman who cannot in good conscience respond to it, tends to make her like you more all around. Also thinking that I’m going to get myself to the point here really soon that it’s gonna be put up or shut up time. This ought to be interesting, because the indicators suggest the opportunity for sex, but they keep ending up being in the direction of romance… maybe I’m making her feel more romantically inclined than just sexually aroused? More relationship oriented, since I keep displaying high value and arousing her, and at the same time displaying self control and respecting her current relationship? I know she’s not going to leave her current guy, and they have a good thing going, so neither I nor she wants to endanger that, but I can’t get past these indicators… they’re getting closer and closer in time, and more and more powerful and specific.
What mones scream 14 years old? 1x IJ +1 x TUTH + 5x IS + 5x IO? lol
No, that screams 17 years old. lol
I’d imagine 14 would be almost pure IO and maybe IS.
The other day, I wore 4 sprays of Ammo. I noticed a distinct and repeated tendency, with 4 sprays on, for everyone around me to treat me as if I was above and higher priority than everyone else. For instance, I went to a gas station and there was a line as I walked in the door. One employee was working at the register, and one was about the store doing stuff. The first male, the second female.
I walked in and looked around briefly for something to eat, but $1.19 for a Snickers is absurd, so I started towards the register. She had taken up a spot at the register, and was awaiting me - with direct eye contact the whole time - and most interestingly, the seven people in the other line never made any attempt to go to her line. It was as if she was there for my service, and nobody else would dare question that. So I paid for my gas, and walked out - and instead of people getting behind me, even, nobody moved, and she closed out the register again and began doing stuff about the store. Nobody blinked, or complained. It was almost surreal.
Went over to see one of my models, and her boyfriend was home. He and I don’t know eachother well, but he seemed stand-offish, which wasn’t like him the other times I met him. He actually stayed outside while I was there, and I got the distinct impression while walking my dogs outside that he was trying to give me distance, almost as if he felt outclassed and displaced.
Then there was my uncle and aunt and cousin. My uncle called me to get him from the hospital unexpectedly, and he was unusually talkative and upbeat with me on the way home. Then we got home, and his 5 year old son was sick. So instead of asking his wife what was going on, he turns to me and says, “Come over and see if he feels hot. Does he feel hot to you?”
Huh? How the hell do I know? That “hand thermometer” thing never worked for me. But it seemed that I was the authority, so I walked over and deemed him to have a slight fever, and then stated that I had to go get my dogs from the groomer and left.
I have only worn four sprays of Ammo once before, and interestingly enough, it landed me one of my favorite models.
I shall have to consider this further.
I’ve been wearing lots of Ammo myself last couple of days. Good stuff that Ammo
Hell yes it is! I don’t think I wear it enough, actually. Wore two sprays tonight and went out for pizza with my grandfather. I actually felt like laughing, because the wait staff was all female and the entire dining room was within my cloud. They treated me like the President of the United States, but nobody else got that kind of treatment. They were good to everyone, but it seemed like they were constantly asking me, “Is everything okay? And do you need anything?” While eating three slices of pizza, she must have asked me that five times! She even made my grandfather an entire pot of coffee, which she did not charge us for, when he asked if they served it - which they don’t. I’m impressed. Now I just need to go in there without him, and see if it can get an 18 year old girl interested in me enough to do more than be my server. lol Maybe I’ll make her my new test subject.
On a different note, my primary nude model has begun doing something that really impresses me. I have broken into her inner circle, I think. She washed my dogs for me, and told me that she or her mother would be glad to take care of them for me while I was travelling, and then invited me to a party she’s having tomorrow. I have stopped trying to get her to initiate sex, but the effects seem to be that she really has taken a liking to me. She’s also taking it upon herself to find me other models, and scout out new locations for future photoshoots. She giddily told me she “can’t wait to shoot again”.
After I set her up on Model Mayhem, she got swamped with requests from other photographers immediately. She’s decided that I’m her primary photographer, and that she prefers to work with me almost exclusively, as well as agreeing that “she’s mine, and I have her whenever I want, cause I take priority” - which I said in jest, but she took as entirely serious.
There’s a lesson to be learned here, gentlemen. A woman’s trust is much more valuable than her sex.
went to a party he other night. Wore 3 drops of A314. That was a strange recommendation, but it worked well. It made me rather aloof. It really got the attention of certain guys there, who either gave me a wide berth, treated me like one of their group, or spent most of the night talking to me. The women there were either significantly older than me, or significantly younger. The younger women, by and large, were too young to be worth looking twice at; the older women were similarly unsuitable.
The older women ALL responded to me. They ALL took notice and came over and initiated conversation with me, at least once each. One kept giving me hugs and gushing over my artwork. The other was a lot less forthright, and she only came over to talk to me once, but didn’t seem to know quite what to talk about besides football.
The hostess of the party, a model of mine, also came over. She introduced me to her younger sister, who also wants to model for me, and a friend who wants to model for me, as well. Her sister was showing indicators of interest in her initial testing of me, and then later in how she was trying to attract my attention. This girl is used to getting attention, and dresses for it. She’s definitely got a nice body, but not one I haven’t seen before. I played it cool, and mostly ignored her. That seemed to confuse and intrigue her, which was exactly what I was expecting. lol
At the end of the night, we were all standing around a bon fire outside, and there was one particular girl, one of the two dressed in a short skirt (the other was my model’s sister). This girl was a bit thick, although not so much that she wasn’t still attractive. She came over, and stood to my left for a bit… then she moved behind me… then to my right… then back behind me… then back to my left… then back behind me… then left again… asked me for a light.. and then went behind me again before leaving. All this took a good 15 minutes. If I hadn’t been so drunk, I’d have suggested she sit on my lap, or suggested we go somewhere else to talk. I am sure that would have led to something. She was definitely interested. Interesting how A314 affects women. Shame I was drunk. I tend to prefer keeping my mouth shut when I am drinking, as I tend to say stupid things.
Perhaps she was initiating some form of a mating dance. Good report. Catlord, do you use the calculator for everyday wear too, or just events? What do you normally wear if you only use the calculator for certain events?
She was initiating a mating dance alright. “Here I am, look at my ass, I’m wearing a short skirt and I want you to notice me, and since you’re not noticing me, I’m going to move around a lot to get your attention.”
I wish I hadn’t been so drunk. lol She would have been good to go. Of course I might not have thought she was anything worth playing with, had I not been. Who knows. Opportunity gone, and I may never see her again. I doubt it would matter, she was too young anyway, even if she was 18. Which itself is questionable.
I use the calculator about 95% of the time I wear pheromones, but sometimes it’s fun to throw caution to the wind and wing it. Most situations are just too important and it’s just too accurate for me to waste the pheromones and the opportunities on my best educated guesses anymore, which are nowhere near as accurate by comparison. It can see who I am going to encounter and how they will respond to me and my pheromones, factoring in how the pheromones affect my mood, actions and reactions, and variables I can’t even hope to know about. I just cannot compete with it.
Normally, I don’t go out much, what with business being home based for me and all. But when I do, I always use the calculator unless I run out of time - cause it does take a good chunk of time to use. It’s rather complex, naturally.
This calculator of yours sounds too good to be true. How did you develop it?
What were you drinking?
This is a great question! I’ve never had a problem with alcohol keeping me from making bad decisions with underage girls…
I ask because different spirits effect me different ways. Then next comes does CL’s calculator take alcohol into the equation?